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1 hour ago, qwerty7 said:

Just heard on SEN from Jon Ralph that Jesse Hogan deal will be announced today!!!

He didn't say that.

He said he thought it looked more likely (Hogan staying at Melbourne) but he didn't say anything about it being announced today.

I can see how ProDee gets frustrated with people misquoting television and radio interviews.

Edited by Clint Bizkit

 
Just now, Clint Bizkit said:

He didn't say that.

what did he say CB?

 
3 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

See my edited post.

do you think comprehension is still taught in school or is it all "reading between the lines now"? It is very frustrating that posters interpret a quote their own way but still attribute it as a quote.


Geez I hope these rumours are on the money. To say we need this guy to commit to this club would be the understatement of the century.

If Hogan re-signs, can someone start a new thread and put this one to bed?

 

11 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

He didn't say that.

He said he thought Hogan would sign but he didn't say anything about it being announced today.

I can see how ProDee gets frustrated with people misquoting television and radio interviews.

Qwerty deserves a ban for it.  If he has made his own conclusions and gotten our hopes up like that then a long holiday from Demonland should be on the cards.  Poor, poor form.

14 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

He didn't say that.

He said he thought Hogan would sign but he didn't say anything about it being announced today.

I can see how ProDee gets frustrated with people misquoting television and radio interviews.

To expand slightly he said

his old man has told him to go do what he wants to do, ( staying in Melbourne rather than returning home to Perth)

Melbourne were/are extremely confident

He's never once given Fremantle any indication he wants to play there and he suspects the talk is trying to drive his pay day up a bit.

absolutely zero about an announcement date, but it sounds as though it's either already signed or he's going to sign in the very near future. 

no mention of years or terms of the deal.

 

Yeah that was a huge burn by qwerty...

Ralph said he thinks Hogan will be  signing in  the next two weeks.

Ralph  said the opposite earlier so  believe what you will.

Said his(JH) Dad wants him to do what he wants to do.

Believes a Two year deal will be announced meaning till the end of 2019


FWIW... afl.com.au's take on the speculation..

Draft selections: 26, 44, 62, 80
Unsigned free agents: N/A
Delistings/retirements: Jack Grimes, Matt Jones, Dean Terlich

AFL.com.au says: Michael Hibberd is first on the shopping list with the club and player committed to each other. Selection No.26 should be enough to get Hibberd, although Essendon has been historically tough to deal with at trade time. Beyond that the Demons are expected to be relatively quiet, with Jesse Hogan's signature remaining a priority. Although the industry was abuzz last week that he had re-committed, both parties poured cold water on that speculation. The Demons will want another ruckman to support Max Gawn while they are open to trading Lynden Dunn to the Brisbane Lions.

it stands to reason, irrespective of whatever occurs that there will be an announcement come ( or before ) Friday.. Its the content thats the query

1 minute ago, GawnWithTheWind said:

FWIW... afl.com.au's take on the speculation..

Draft selections: 26, 44, 62, 80
Unsigned free agents: N/A
Delistings/retirements: Jack Grimes, Matt Jones, Dean Terlich

AFL.com.au says: Michael Hibberd is first on the shopping list with the club and player committed to each other. Selection No.26 should be enough to get Hibberd, although Essendon has been historically tough to deal with at trade time. Beyond that the Demons are expected to be relatively quiet, with Jesse Hogan's signature remaining a priority. Although the industry was abuzz last week that he had re-committed, both parties poured cold water on that speculation. The Demons will want another ruckman to support Max Gawn while they are open to trading Lynden Dunn to the Brisbane Lions.

It sounds as though that sentiment was taken from Healy's reference to Hogan's management last week, which turned out to be third hand anyway.

6 minutes ago, KingSlayer33 said:

do you think comprehension is still taught in school or is it all "reading between the lines now"? It is very frustrating that posters interpret a quote their own way but still attribute it as a quote.

KingSlayer, I think the driver is more the social media driven obsession with relevance / fame.  You see it manifest itself across every facet of society....just an irrepressible need to be first at something, first with something....to the point where there is no compunction with fabricating a story line or misrepresenting "facts".   I just shake my head.......

Why do posters feel the need to literally make [censored] up?

[censored] incredible.

I heard Ralph on SEN also, and it was so far from what the poster believed he said.

 

Edited by stevethemanjordan


FFS, I am going to stop reading the fudging thread.

 

I think people should remind themselves that this is a public forum.

It's not just other posters who read our posts, there are many many more guests, and outsiders who are hungry for info.

 

Please think about what you are about to post, as almost every day, I read some truly embarrassing stuff in this thread.

Stop quoting what you want to happen, and start quoting what has actually been said, by a real person.

@Whispering_Jack @Nasher and the rest of the mod team - can you guys put in a rule for the next month that posters get a ban of some sort for posting information, or passing on info from radio/TV interviews etc, that is completely wrong?  @qwerty gave us info that was totally wrong and it's a bloody waste of our time.  How we gleaned that there would be an announcement today from the Jon Ralph interview is totally beyond me.

55 minutes ago, Flamingdees said:

Spoke to my contact last night and to cut a long story short Jesse will be playing for MFC next year and club is more than confident we will get a signature this week. 

 

Your 'contact' doesn't seem to like providing useful information. I mean given he is contracted for next year and Goodwin has made it clear they won't be looking to trade this year it is harldy news Hogan 'will be playing for MFC next year'. As for being more than confident about getting a signature this week could your 'contact' be any less equivacol?

By the by if they announce his signing this week you can be sure the deal was done last week or even earlier making your 'contact' at best out of the loop, at worst?

Edited by binman

8 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

@Whispering_Jack @Nasher and the rest of the mod team - can you guys put in a rule for the next month that posters get a ban of some sort for posting information, or passing on info from radio/TV interviews etc, that is completely wrong?  @qwerty gave us info that was totally wrong and it's a bloody waste of our time.  How we gleaned that there would be an announcement today from the Jon Ralph interview is totally beyond me.

I was passed on the info from a friend and should have realised he would have embellished it with the today and certainty of Ralph's comments... Sorry for that, but I wasn't trying to take the 'pizz' or get everyone's hopes up. 

To suggest a ban from a hardly sinister comment is quite frankly ridiculous. I think you all need to relax, I was just so excited that I failed to check the validity of the comments before posting. 

 

AND, even so, what I said isn't entirely false excluding the 'today' aspect. Ralph was still very, very confident that Jesse will be signing on with the Dees, so I think that is still something worth posting.

 

Edited by qwerty7


9 minutes ago, qwerty7 said:

I was passed on the info from a friend and should have realised he would have embellished it with the today and certainty of Ralph's comments... Sorry for that, but I wasn't trying to take the 'pizz' or get everyone's hopes up. 

To suggest a ban from a hardly sinister comment is quite frankly ridiculous. I think you all need to relax, I was just so excited that I failed to check the validity of the comments before posting. 

It's simple, you just need to qualify the comments, if you don't know they are accurate just say so.

Edited by Clint Bizkit

I think we have to ban Jon Ralph from using Demonland as an authentic source of information.

1 minute ago, Clint Bizkit said:

It's simple, you simply need to qualify the comments, if you don't know they are accurate just say so.

I'm sure qwerty7 was just excited and forgot to check Clint. 

Dont think he will do it again but give him a break he's a newby. 

Its not like he is a serial offender. 

 

The other thing i was a bit annoyed about was Ralph mentioning the nature of Jesse's old mans illness, unless Jesse has said himself it's fine, surely he could just say personal matters, really silly move on his part and i would hope the MFC makes contact with him and tells him to keep his mouth shut about the players personal issues if it doesn't need to be mentioned.


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