2 hours ago, monoccular said:

I was if the understanding that the top up players, never having been drafted competitively, were on a non renewable one year contract    Is the AFL once again bending over backwards to help the cheating bastards  

 

You don't really need an answer do you mono?

Will the AFL ever stop given Ess 'gifts' to help them up the ladder.  http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-24/afl-set-to-soften-rules-around-bombers-topups?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=RSS+feed%3A+AFL+Latest+News

Initially the 10 top up players had to go into the draft and any club could draft them.  If EFC wanted them they had to pay the draft price.  The AFL has now conveniently changed the rules so that the 10 are classified as 'Delisted Free Agents' and can go to the club of their choice, FOR FREE.  ie no draft picks involved.  Theoretically it looks as if it could benefit any club who wants to draft them but of course any decent ones will go to Essendon,  

So EFC not only get pick #1 for doping their players, they get most of them back in 2017 and now don't need to use any draft picks to keep any or all of the 10 top-up players that want to stay.

I despair at this latest AFL aid to EFC.

The complicit silence of all other 17 clubs is astonishing.

7 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Will the AFL ever stop given Ess 'gifts' to help them up the ladder.  http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-24/afl-set-to-soften-rules-around-bombers-topups?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=RSS+feed%3A+AFL+Latest+News

Initially the 10 top up players had to go into the draft and any club could draft them.  If EFC wanted them they had to pay the draft price.  The AFL has now conveniently changed the rules so that the 10 are classified as 'Delisted Free Agents' and can go to the club of their choice, FOR FREE.  ie no draft picks involved.  Theoretically it looks as if it could benefit any club who wants to draft them but of course any decent ones will go to Essendon,  

So EFC not only get pick #1 for doping their players, they get most of them back in 2017 and now don't need to use any draft picks to keep any or all of the 10 top-up players that want to stay.

I despair at this latest AFL aid to EFC.

The complicit silence of all other 17 clubs is astonishing.

FFS the AFL really are out of touch.

8 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Will the AFL ever stop given Ess 'gifts' to help them up the ladder.  http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-24/afl-set-to-soften-rules-around-bombers-topups?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=RSS+feed%3A+AFL+Latest+News

Initially the 10 top up players had to go into the draft and any club could draft them.  If EFC wanted them they had to pay the draft price.  The AFL has now conveniently changed the rules so that the 10 are classified as 'Delisted Free Agents' and can go to the club of their choice, FOR FREE.  ie no draft picks involved.  Theoretically it looks as if it could benefit any club who wants to draft them but of course any decent ones will go to Essendon,  

So EFC not only get pick #1 for doping their players, they get most of them back in 2017 and now don't need to use any draft picks to keep any or all of the 10 top-up players that want to stay.

I despair at this latest AFL aid to EFC.

The complicit silence of all other 17 clubs is astonishing.

The AFL has now streaked past  the IOC and FIFA for the gold medal for corrupt sporting administrations.  Rewarding deliberate underhanded cheating - not even the runners up do that. 

11 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Will the AFL ever stop given Ess 'gifts' to help them up the ladder.  http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-24/afl-set-to-soften-rules-around-bombers-topups?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=RSS+feed%3A+AFL+Latest+News

Initially the 10 top up players had to go into the draft and any club could draft them.  If EFC wanted them they had to pay the draft price.  The AFL has now conveniently changed the rules so that the 10 are classified as 'Delisted Free Agents' and can go to the club of their choice, FOR FREE.  ie no draft picks involved.  Theoretically it looks as if it could benefit any club who wants to draft them but of course any decent ones will go to Essendon,  

So EFC not only get pick #1 for doping their players, they get most of them back in 2017 and now don't need to use any draft picks to keep any or all of the 10 top-up players that want to stay.

I despair at this latest AFL aid to EFC.

The complicit silence of all other 17 clubs is astonishing.

Given all the players become available to any club who might want them, I don't see how this is an Essendon-specific AFL action. If we wanted any of those players, we're free to talk to them and make them an offer. 

39 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Given all the players become available to any club who might want them, I don't see how this is an Essendon-specific AFL action. If we wanted any of those players, we're free to talk to them and make them an offer. 

Except we are at a disadvantage because they have already spent time at the club and formed relationships. This would give them an advantage they shouldn't be afforded for their cheating.

51 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Given all the players become available to any club who might want them, I don't see how this is an Essendon-specific AFL action. If we wanted any of those players, we're free to talk to them and make them an offer. 

a bird in the hand.....ldvc....

11 minutes ago, Stinga2 said:

Except we are at a disadvantage because they have already spent time at the club and formed relationships. This would give them an advantage they shouldn't be afforded for their cheating.

Good point, but I would have thought of minimal bearing in the overall scheme of things.

On 8/24/2016 at 10:06 PM, Lucifer's Hero said:

Will the AFL ever stop given Ess 'gifts' to help them up the ladder.  http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-24/afl-set-to-soften-rules-around-bombers-topups?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=RSS+feed%3A+AFL+Latest+News

Initially the 10 top up players had to go into the draft and any club could draft them.  If EFC wanted them they had to pay the draft price.  The AFL has now conveniently changed the rules so that the 10 are classified as 'Delisted Free Agents' and can go to the club of their choice, FOR FREE.  ie no draft picks involved.  Theoretically it looks as if it could benefit any club who wants to draft them but of course any decent ones will go to Essendon,  

So EFC not only get pick #1 for doping their players, they get most of them back in 2017 and now don't need to use any draft picks to keep any or all of the 10 top-up players that want to stay.

I despair at this latest AFL aid to EFC.

The complicit silence of all other 17 clubs is astonishing.

Surely they can't change a draft rule so close to the draft because it doesn't suit 1 team? Matt Dea would have been of interest to multiple clubs. 

they have got to stop rewarding the drug cheats for destroying their name.

1 hour ago, Abe said:

Surely they can't change a draft rule so close to the draft because it doesn't suit 1 team? Matt Dea would have been of interest to multiple clubs. 

they have got to stop rewarding the drug cheats for destroying their name.

They won't stop Abe.

The Pie man is on record as saying he wants Essendrug up as quick as possible I heard him on 3AW before the start of this season and nothing he has done since suggests he has changed his position.

16 minutes ago, old dee said:

They won't stop Abe.

The Pie man is on record as saying he wants Essendrug up as quick as possible I heard him on 3AW before the start of this season and nothing he has done since suggests he has changed his position.

Be it on his head, hope my memory and sh#t throwing ability stays on song for a few more years. Between the IOC,Russia, bloody gold medals and TWSNBN i am at the end of my tether...

On 8/25/2016 at 1:27 PM, old dee said:

They won't stop Abe.

The Pie man is on record as saying he wants Essendrug up as quick as possible I heard him on 3AW before the start of this season and nothing he has done since suggests he has changed his position.

I remember him saying after the suspensions were handed down that it was important that the suspensions were held because it was their commitment to clean sport, everything else he's done has been totally disrespectful, he's systematically rigged the system to ensure they lose as little money as possible and shown how important clean sport really is, it's a nice idea so long as it doesn't effect revenue, the integrity of the contest is dead and buried. 

1 minute ago, willmoy said:

Be it on his head, hope my memory and sh#t throwing ability stays on song for a few more years. Between the IOC,Russia, bloody gold medals and TWSNBN i am at the end of my tether...

You are not alone willmoy.

It is all about the money as they say it is the root of all evil.

There are 17 other clubs who have been told to say nothing. 

It's so obvious. 

I despise The AFL as much as Essendrug

It all began with Vlad giving them that Phone call 36 hours before ASADA walked in. 

 

AFL   the new standard in corruption and blatant self servance

The standards of governance are beyond abysmal

20 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Will the AFL ever stop given Ess 'gifts' to help them up the ladder.  http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-24/afl-set-to-soften-rules-around-bombers-topups?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=RSS+feed%3A+AFL+Latest+News

Initially the 10 top up players had to go into the draft and any club could draft them.  If EFC wanted them they had to pay the draft price.  The AFL has now conveniently changed the rules so that the 10 are classified as 'Delisted Free Agents' and can go to the club of their choice, FOR FREE.  ie no draft picks involved.  Theoretically it looks as if it could benefit any club who wants to draft them but of course any decent ones will go to Essendon,  

So EFC not only get pick #1 for doping their players, they get most of them back in 2017 and now don't need to use any draft picks to keep any or all of the 10 top-up players that want to stay.

I despair at this latest AFL aid to EFC.

The complicit silence of all other 17 clubs is astonishing.

Changing of the rules so Essendon can add top-ups to their list seamlessly as DFA but still a firm no to the players involved in the suspensions being granted the same courtesy.

It's hard to believe the AFLPA isn't all over this, it's ludicrous.

39 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said:

Changing of the rules so Essendon can add top-ups to their list seamlessly as DFA but still a firm no to the players involved in the suspensions being granted the same courtesy.

It's hard to believe the AFLPA isn't all over this, it's ludicrous.

The AFLPA...lol....you mean that'other ' bunch of shysters !!    fmd they argued the Essendrug lads had done no wrong ffs

1 hour ago, Carlos Danger said:

Changing of the rules so Essendon can add top-ups to their list seamlessly as DFA but still a firm no to the players involved in the suspensions being granted the same courtesy.

It's hard to believe the AFLPA isn't all over this, it's ludicrous.

um.... the aflpa were the ones who asked the afl to allow the top-up players to go dfa

The stain on the Brand that will never be reversed. The first organisation to have a Foundation Member stained guilty when the dill was head.

Interesting that several well known Sporting Brands decided to not extend their Sponsorships on some bright spark, just one, from USA for getting plastered and misplacing his money, and here we have a whole team that gets "really plastered" and several well known Sporting Brands haven't got the ticker either this year or next to pull the plug on TWSNBN let alone on the League who are actively supporting them. 

And Dank keeps on giving ...

Dank promises to drop bombshell allegations involving current and former Gold Coast footy players.

13 hours ago, Carlos Danger said:

Changing of the rules so Essendon can add top-ups to their list seamlessly as DFA but still a firm no to the players involved in the suspensions being granted the same courtesy.

It's hard to believe the AFLPA isn't all over this, it's ludicrous.

Scene: AFL house. Gillon McLaughlin is sitting in an enormous leather chair, cradling a large brandy balloon. At the foot of the chair, crouching on all fours, is Paul Marsh, AFLPA CEO. McLaughlin's feet are on his back.

GM: Ahhhh ... nothing like a brandy to settle the tum after a long lunch, eh Geoff?

PM: I suppose so Mr McLaughlin. I've never actually had a--

GM: And a roaring open fire. Takes the winter chill off.

PM: Yes Mr McLaughlin. Could we move away from it a bit? It's very hot and I'm starting to--

GM: I'm pleased with you, Rod. I think we get on exceptionally well. You and your player co-op thingy, and me with my international standard sporting competition.

PM: Yes, Mr McL--

GM: I mean, we hardly ever have a disagreement. It's very unusual in the business world to be as harmonious as we are.

PM: Yes Mr McLaughlin.

GM: It pleases me.

PM: Thank you Mr McLaughlin.

GM: Those player agents though. I'm hearing that some players aren't happy with the way we're handling the Essendon situation.

PM: That's right Mr McLaughlin!

GM: We're not going to hear any more from them, are we Shaun?

PM: Well actually Mr McLaughlin, the other players are--

GM: I said, we're not going to hear any more from them, are we?

PM: (pause) No Mr McLaughlin.

GM: The alpacas need a wash this weekend. See to it. And while I'm at the Hawthorn game, get the Bentley waxed.

PM: Yes Mr McLaughlin.

GM: Not many people have it as good as we do, eh Graham? Put another log on the fire.

PM: Yes Mr McLaughlin.

 

1 hour ago, Whispering_Jack said:

And Dank keeps on giving ...

Dank promises to drop bombshell allegations involving current and former Gold Coast footy players.

Has he said anything noteworthy to anyone anywhere that is of use?

Full of hot air pizz and wind.

 

2 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

And Dank keeps on giving ...

Dank promises to drop bombshell allegations involving current and former Gold Coast footy players.

why do the press continue to give dank oxygen when he provides nothing new in the way of facts and is completely discredited?

a few more critical articles exposing dank's appalling record and trail of destruction seem a bridge too far for our valiant press 

4 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

why do the press continue to give dank oxygen when he provides nothing new in the way of facts and is completely discredited?

a few more critical articles exposing dank's appalling record and trail of destruction seem a bridge too far for our valiant press 

I'm not sure if your question is rhetorical, but Dank fits into that category of "celebrity" which our media seem to love. Others in that list include Geoffrey Edelsten and his various ex-wives and partners, Warwick Capper and Mark Jackson. (While Capper and Jackson played football, the media love them today for anything but their former football lives.) Unfortunately, the media love for these (non)-celebrities says more about us, the consumer of the media, than it does about the media themselves.

2 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

And Dank keeps on giving ...

Dank promises to drop bombshell allegations involving current and former Gold Coast footy players.

And why would anyone give any credence whatsoever to this snake oil salesman who can't even produce records of his immortal and unethical episodes of human experimentation, assuming of course that any records were kept or indeed any drugs given?