Considering the whole Roos factor a round 2 loss to Essendon of any margin will be worse for this club than the 186 against Geelong. In fact if we do loose it should spell the end.

We need to start coming up with excuses for the club should we loose, we can't honestly expect the players to take responsibility. I think it's fair to say we've overplayed the "under developed" or debuted too early card". I think the club should run with something along the lines of "we were unable to do a proper opposition analysis due to the nature of Essendons list, they've only been together for such a short time but they've gelled together really well and are a highly unpredictable side".

Lets not have any of  this self doubt nonsense. Just believe it and DO IT !!!!!     Be The ball !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some of you lot need to get off the Estrogen ffs.

Essendon 2016: a nouveau fusion of journeymen dad's army types who'll be mixing it up with some wet behind the ears kiddies holding their hands.

Whilst I expect Essendon to come our all guns firing Im not sure those nerfs are going to do a lot of harm to anyone.

They havent even finalised a list..and we're into feb !!  Those old heads whilst capable footballers are at the END of their careers and their legs wont hold out for the season.  Theyll be nursing them through this year and if they get hit with injuries (as is more likely) they'll soon run out of depth.

Melbourne is on the rise. Essendon is stalled at the end of the runway.

Grow some  folks !!

Seriously,  the game is 2 months away and we're are already trying to psych ourselves out of it.  There is no reason for negativity in February.  

This anxiety around melb dropping games it should win is at the heart of our mindset problems as a club and a supporter base and is both infectious and paralysing. I've been just as guilty of this kind of thinking before.  The facts are we have everything to be positive about this season and they have everything to be concerned about. 

If the players bring the required effort then on ability we will win and win easily.  But we fear the players won't turn up or we worry about what might happen if we should lose, we don't want to seem confident or positive and fear the embarrassment if we lose and look stupid... and so it becomes a self fulfiling prophesy. 

I'm not saying we should be more arrogant , but just back ourselves in and let the confidence build with an exciting young side. 

I'm too young to know but I doubt this kind of thinking would have existed in the swooper northey days 

 

3 hours ago, Mydee said:

I think Citizen Murdoch's allegiances are to one person - himself. I don't think they are split

Yes. It is all based on monetary returns based on the stock market of the hour...

2 hours ago, Delusional demon 82 said:

Seriously,  the game is 2 months away and we're are already trying to psych ourselves out of it.  There is no reason for negativity in February.  

This anxiety around melb dropping games it should win is at the heart of our mindset problems as a club and a supporter base and is both infectious and paralysing. I've been just as guilty of this kind of thinking before.  The facts are we have everything to be positive about this season and they have everything to be concerned about. 

If the players bring the required effort then on ability we will win and win easily.  But we fear the players won't turn up or we worry about what might happen if we should lose, we don't want to seem confident or positive and fear the embarrassment if we lose and look stupid... and so it becomes a self fulfiling prophesy. 

I'm not saying we should be more arrogant , but just back ourselves in and let the confidence build with an exciting young side. 

I'm too young to know but I doubt this kind of thinking would have existed in the swooper northey days 

 

All good points well made. 

However you mention you are young. After 40 years of following the dees no loss would come as a surprise to me. None. 

3 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Considering the whole Roos factor a round 2 loss to Essendon of any margin will be worse for this club than the 186 against Geelong. In fact if we do loose it should spell the end.

IT IS "LOSE" NOT "LOOSE" FOR CHRIST'S SAKE

7 minutes ago, givemethecure said:

IT IS "LOSE" NOT "LOOSE" FOR CHRIST'S SAKE

ROFLMAO

If Essendrug finisher higher than the MFC in 2016 then the MFC should disband.

It will not happen of course how could the idiot even suggest it.

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39 minutes ago, givemethecure said:

IT IS "LOSE" NOT "LOOSE" FOR CHRIST'S SAKE

In which case it definitely does not spell the end

2 hours ago, givemethecure said:

IT IS "LOSE" NOT "LOOSE" FOR CHRIST'S SAKE

13 posts in and you're worried about spelling....

 

Go hard.

I remember all the ludicrous over optimistic posts on here the week before our most recent humiliating loss against Essendon. A 60, 80 or a 100 point win was thrown about everywhere.  All it is going to take for them to beat us in round two irrespective of who they field is going to come down to if THEY want to win the game more than us. That is al it takes. When that ingredient comes into play we turn into spineless jellyfish no matter the opposition.  No amount of positive thinking and support from us fans will make any difference unless there is a drastic change  of mindset by the players from last season.

Edited February 3, 20169 yr by america de cali

In everyone's head, we'll already have lost that R2 game. The topups are just so stupid. Why couldn't we be drug cheats in 2012 and get Kelly and Stokes? It's not that bad a deal to be honest, when you think of how many of our players have gone from that period. Yes, unfortunately it'd mean no Nathan Jones unless he's afraid of needles.

The EFC players that were instrumental in their 2015 win against us will still be there:  Daniher, Goddard, Baguley and to a lesser extent Zacharakis.  The only one that really played well that day that is missing is Hurley.  As adec said they wanted the win more.

Look at the list of their suspended 12.  Only half were regular best 22.  Many of the 12 were out injured last year.  EFC will put in some decent performances in 2016.

A few teams will get burnt for underestimating them.   I pray we are not one of them. 

No room for complacency.

2 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

13 posts in and you're worried about spelling....

 

Go hard.

BA, I think you have really upset him.

59 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

The EFC players that were instrumental in their 2015 win against us will still be there:  Daniher, Goddard, Baguley and to a lesser extent Zacharakis.  The only one that really played well that day that is missing is Hurley.  As adec said they wanted the win more.

Look at the list of their suspended 12.  Only half were regular best 22.  Many of the 12 were out injured last year.  EFC will put in some decent performances in 2016.

A few teams will get burnt for underestimating them.   I pray we are not one of them. 

No room for complacency.

We have no right to complacency in any game next season. 

Anything less than 88 Quarters of desperate accountable football means that Goodwin is not ready to coach. 

Round 2 must be a solid win.young hungry kids against a bunch of used hacks

 

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

We have no right to complacency in any game next season. 

Anything less than 88 Quarters of desperate accountable football means that Goodwin is not ready to coach. 

Round 2 must be a solid win.young hungry kids against a bunch of used hacks

 

wot? only 88 quarters this year, wyl?

12 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

We have no right to complacency in any game next season. 

Anything less than 88 Quarters of desperate accountable football means that Goodwin is not ready to coach. 

Round 2 must be a solid win.young hungry kids against a bunch of used hacks

 

Harsh call on Goodwin, especially when there's a guy on the list who very much loves the outside ball and not putting his body on the line. He tends to get games more often than not and actually had to drop himself last year.

I greatly admire Jon Ralph - a veritable 'go to' man when I want accurate information quickly....except where it involves footy.

In that last quarter when we lost to them last year, we were running rings around them in a way I had not seen for years. We were doing whatever we wanted, the problem was that we wanted to kick a lot of points instead of goals.

I think some of the players would be pretty nervous, but I am confident (as can be) that we will win. I'm hoping for 8-12 wins this year, but I am really hoping for no complete fade out smashings of old.

19 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

wot? only 88 quarters this year, wyl?

Not getting ahead of myself dc!!

10 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said:

Harsh call on Goodwin, especially when there's a guy on the list who very much loves the outside ball and not putting his body on the line. He tends to get games more often than not and actually had to drop himself last year.

If Goodwin wants the job the soft quarters with the head down attitude have to be killed off this year. 

Preperation...

34 minutes ago, DemonFrog said:

BA, I think you have really upset him.

Well I'm not sure what to say, that wasn't my intention. I've had one day off in three weeks, 12-14 hours a day....I'm wrecked, the occasional spelling mistake is bound to creep in. I thought my point was valid, misspelt or not.