Bang on. It's great that there are no lofty or unrealistic expectations of oliver or the weed in their first year. I'm happy for them to sit at Casey for 3/4 of the year developing their trade. The excitement for me is with guys like kent, frost, gawn and petracca. Trenners will be a bonus but bloody hell I'd love to see him out there. He must be absolutely stoked with life right now - hopefully his body holds up and he has a great career. 

If Trenners does keep going the way he is i'd play him in the role we had Cross in, Half back who can mark, good user of the ball, rotating through the midfield with the odd tagging role

58 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

For once people are not overly excited about a first round pick (Clayton Oliver) debut.

This was always the main talk of the topic around the Bailey and Neeld years if i remember.

 

Technically both are first round picks, but i agree with the sentiment.

Stoked to see Trenners moving into the main group for training and hopefully increasing his load does not lead to the break down and soft tissue injuries that are often seen in recovery from these issues. A strong marking, hard tackling, inside mid will further compliment and strengthen our midfield group and he has poise which is something that we lack significantly

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

For once people are not overly excited about a first round pick (Clayton Oliver) debut.

This was always the main talk of the topic around the Bailey and Neeld years if i remember.

 

spot on and that is how it should be....

36 minutes ago, nutbean said:

spot on and that is how it should be....

Sure, but that's not to say first year players aren't worthy of playing straight away, such as Selwood, Wines and countless others.

10 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Sure, but that's not to say first year players aren't worthy of playing straight away, such as Selwood, Wines and countless others.

errr Brayshaw.....

5 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Sure, but that's not to say first year players aren't worthy of playing straight away, such as Selwood, Wines and countless others.

Exactly right. As long as we don't expect them to be our best mid, the highly talented young mids can play from round 1 if their talent warrants.

Just now, jnrmac said:

errr Brayshaw.....

Yes, so ?  You think you really need to remind me of Brayshaw ?

I deliberately highlighted players that did it in successful finals bound teams to illustrate it's not just dud teams that give first year players a go.

Clearly to subtle for your intellect.

 

Jack Trengove looked to be comfortably in the best 22 yesterday. I was trying to be objective but his clean hands and foot (!)  and his fast leads were very good and his professionalism in training shone.

5 minutes ago, Franky_31 said:

Jack Trengove looked to be comfortably in the best 22 yesterday. I was trying to be objective but his clean hands and foot(!)  and his fast leads were very good and his professionalism in training shone.

How was his pace Franky?

Not as quick as Garlett who I thought trained as hard as he could, which shattered a preconception of mine.

He looked quick but Lumumba looked like Usain Bolt at 3 quarter pace!

Jack led fast to the right spot for Kent and I think ANB to kick it past the 50 and he accelerated and it was a one grab out high in front. Twice. He also seemed to be leading his sprints past me back to goal mouth. I could be wrong and I missed others or it may have just been "his day" at training. Sometimes that happens.

He looks like he is on a mission and he must be close.

28 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Sure, but that's not to say first year players aren't worthy of playing straight away, such as Selwood, Wines and countless others.

correct - but for too long we have been pinning our hopes on footballers who have yet to kick a ball in the big time.

Because the good teams have so many established stars they don't get angry in the pants over their draftees like we have for many years. We are now talking about getting excited about the improvement in players already on our list and Oliver has hardly been mentioned. To me this highlights that our list is finally on the up.

1 minute ago, nutbean said:

correct - but for too long we have been pinning our hopes on footballers who have yet to kick a ball in the big time.

Because the good teams have so many established stars they don't get angry in the pants over their draftees like we have for many years. We are now talking about getting excited about the improvement in players already on our list and Oliver has hardly been mentioned. To me this highlights that our list is finally on the up.

Which is why I said "sure".

3 minutes ago, Franky_31 said:

Not as quick as Garlett who I thought trained as hard as he could, which shattered a preconception of mine.

 

He maintained one preconception of mine though, when he ducked his dead and dropped a mark.

16 minutes ago, Redleg said:

He maintained one preconception of mine though, when he ducked his dead and dropped a mark.

Pedersen? ?? 

20 minutes ago, Franky_31 said:

Not as quick as Garlett who I thought trained as hard as he could, which shattered a preconception of mine.

He looked quick but Lumumba looked like Usain Bolt at 3 quarter pace!

Jack led fast to the right spot for Kent and I think ANB to kick it past the 50 and he accelerated and it was a one grab out high in front. Twice. He also seemed to be leading his sprints past me back to goal mouth. I could be wrong and I missed others or it may have just been "his day" at training. Sometimes that happens.

He looks like he is on a mission and he must be close.

Was he kicking on his left at all? to be totally honest i know it's not good at AFL level to be one sided but i'd be pretty happy for him to have a 90-10 ratio towards his right foot in an effort to protect his left a little more.

8 hours ago, Peter Griffen said:

Was he kicking on his left at all? to be totally honest i know it's not good at AFL level to be one sided but i'd be pretty happy for him to have a 90-10 ratio towards his right foot in an effort to protect his left a little more.

To be fair, alot of players nowdays will use the outside of their preffered foot to hit targets than using their opposite. Obviously not all Sam Mitchell and Brayshaw are two really good examples of using both sides of the body, Rohan Bail was another who was never afraid to use his left but it was much worse than his preferred.

Trengove does not need to use his left foot yet and everyone is putting undue emphasis on the use of this foot. He will be unlikely to use it at training, especially in drills where time and space is plenty and would not be in full training if there was even the slight worry about him being in a position where he would need to use his left and it would deteriorate his condition from looking promising back on the sidelines

A good insight into how well the club is managing his rehab and expectations: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/melbourne-demons-jack-trengove-takes-step-to-afl-comeback-20160215-gmv0gx.html "Melbourne will still not publicly discuss a timeline for Trengove to come back as an AFL player.  But if the next few weeks go without incident, Trengove will return to full training".

My favourite part: "Melbourne are daring to think, not dream, that former co-captain Jack Trengove will resume his AFL career."  Its a journo comment not from the club nonetheless some real reason to be optimistic.

1 hour ago, ProDee said:

Clearly to subtle for your intellect.

 

Nice.

15 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Nice.

did you mean Nic?

1 hour ago, Mad_Melbourne said:

Pedersen? ?? 

Garlett and it was yesterday at training. Spilled a basic mark as a result. Talented but timid.

Just now, Redleg said:

Garlett and it was yesterday at training. Spilled a basic mark as a result. Talented but timid.

more in jest, i forget these forums don't convey it so well.

He definitely does have a little bit of self preservation about him but i guess we dont particularly want him standing with his back to the back but rather moving towards the pack.

26 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Nice.

Wowee.  You got me.

8 hours ago, Mad_Melbourne said:

To be fair, alot of players nowdays will use the outside of their preffered foot to hit targets than using their opposite. Obviously not all Sam Mitchell and Brayshaw are two really good examples of using both sides of the body, Rohan Bail was another who was never afraid to use his left but it was much worse than his preferred.

Trengove does not need to use his left foot yet and everyone is putting undue emphasis on the use of this foot. He will be unlikely to use it at training, especially in drills where time and space is plenty and would not be in full training if there was even the slight worry about him being in a position where he would need to use his left and it would deteriorate his condition from looking promising back on the sidelines

It would be amazing if he came back to be a contributor let alone that he has then changed to kick only on his non-dominate foot. I can't recall if he used it often before, he may have.

1 hour ago, Cards13 said:

It would be amazing if he came back to be a contributor let alone that he has then changed to kick only on his non-dominate foot. I can't recall if he used it often before, he may have.

i thought his right foot was his dominant foot anyway. is my memory that bad?