DeeSpencer 26,675 Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 She has no eye for talent and regurgitates an amalgamation of what she has heard from recruiters & talent managers. She chose 5 players at the start of 2007 to write a book on. 2 - Cotchin 9 - McEvoy 11 - Veszpremi 12 - Rioli 13 - Ebert Now I'm sure they were all pretty highly rated at the start of the season, but that's not bad going. Whether she's using her own eye or collating the knowledge of others doesn't bother me. If her top 30 is a group think of the collective knowledge of a bunch of recruiters then maybe it's more reliable than any one persons opinion. One of the weaknesses of the draft is that players go ahead of the order if 1 club has a massive opinion of them. Quote
Gator 18,053 Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 I rate Knightmare's draft work probably higher than anyone else's and he has Parish at 14 in the power rankings. http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightmares-2015-draft-almanac.1091303/ I don't rate him much at all. 2 Quote
M_9 2,216 Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 Milera ahead of Parish ? The Quayle possibly risks being a goose. Start of paragraph four: "This isn't a mock draft " 1 Quote
dazzledavey36 56,334 Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 I rate Knightmare's draft work probably higher than anyone else's and he has Parish at 14 in the power rankings. http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightmares-2015-draft-almanac.1091303/ And that's why I don't rate Knightmare.. Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 Start of paragraph four: "This isn't a mock draft "what am i missing.. Quote
Mach5 4,768 Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 I rate Knightmare's draft work probably higher than anyone else's and he has Parish at 14 in the power rankings. http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightmares-2015-draft-almanac.1091303/ You do? Maybe the most detailed, but I wouldn't consider him as being close to the most accurate. 1 Quote
rjay 25,424 Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 (edited) I guess it's all interesting at this time of the year with not much else to talk about. The mock drafts don't really mean much but I would think both Twomey and Quayle have the inside knowledge to get close to the mark. More contacts than a good eye for talent... Whichever way things go I'm thinking we will have a few good kids ready to kick off training in a couple of weeks. We haven't done too bad since Roos has been around. Tyson/Salem, Brayshaw/Petracca, not to mention a few other kids who have shown a bit... edit: yes I know Tyson wasn't drafted by us but it was part of a strategy that had us pick up Salem. Edited November 15, 2015 by rjay Quote
Lucifers Hero 40,716 Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 what am i missing.. EQ's list is her opinion of 'quality'...I think of it as her view of 'best available'. Emma watches a great deal of underage football so her opinion on quality is worth noting. Her mock draft in a week, is predicted order of players which is where club/recruiter research comes in...club's view of 'best available'/'needs' It will be interesting to compare the two. Quote
TheoX 1,222 Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 (edited) She had Yarran and Watts top 2 in 2008, not concerned about her ranking of Parish. Edited November 15, 2015 by TheoX Quote
DubDee 26,674 Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 i have to admit it is concerning that EQ think Parish is the 14th best talent (best available) in this draft and we may take him with 3. I have no clue about how good these kids are but the one thing I have noticed is that Parish is not often referred to as hard/tough or massively competitive like a lot of the others in the top 14. also his slight frame has been highlighted. I know we cant have a team of Vineys but these outisde players seem riskier than the Brayshaws of the world. tough choice! it would be fascinating to know if the Dees already knew who we would take at 3 when we traded for it or the plan was just to have 2 top picks Quote
Gator 18,053 Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 i have to admit it is concerning that EQ think Parish is the 14th best talent (best available) in this draft and we may take him with 3. So you consider her a greater authority than our recruiting panel ? 4 Quote
stuie 7,374 Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 So you consider her a greater authority than our recruiting panel ? We haven't drafted him yet... Quote
daisycutter 30,021 Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 i have to admit it is concerning that EQ think Parish is the 14th best talent (best available) in this draft and we may take him with 3. I have no clue about how good these kids are but the one thing I have noticed is that Parish is not often referred to as hard/tough or massively competitive like a lot of the others in the top 14. also his slight frame has been highlighted. I know we cant have a team of Vineys but these outisde players seem riskier than the Brayshaws of the world. tough choice! it would be fascinating to know if the Dees already knew who we would take at 3 when we traded for it or the plan was just to have 2 top picks 14th includes academy players if you include academy players in draft our first pick won't be 3. will be 5 or 6 Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 EQ's list is her opinion of 'quality'...I think of it as her view of 'best available'. Emma watches a great deal of underage football so her opinion on quality is worth noting. Her mock draft in a week, is predicted order of players which is where club/recruiter research comes in...club's view of 'best available'/'needs' It will be interesting to compare the two. Id still have Parish a tad higher than she has...but it's all rather moot really. Our recruiters will place them as they see warranted. 1 Quote
DubDee 26,674 Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 So you consider her a greater authority than our recruiting panel ? of course not. I just take her opinion into account Quote
Mach5 4,768 Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 of course not. I just take her opinion into account You shouldn't. Quote
Slartibartfast 18,120 Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 You shouldn't. How should we consider yours? 1 Quote
Mach5 4,768 Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 How should we consider yours? Utterly reliable. Obviously. 1 Quote
Slartibartfast 18,120 Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 Please give us your top 20 then with summary. I'll be fascinated. I'm sure others will too. Thanks 2 Quote
Gator 18,053 Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) We haven't drafted him yet... And we may not, we may take Curnow at P3. But whatever we do I won't lose a nanoseconds sleep over Emma's ratings. Edited November 16, 2015 by ProDee Quote
stuie 7,374 Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 And we may not, we may take Curnow at P3. But whatever we do I won't lose a nanoseconds of sleep over Emma's ratings. And nor should you, but she knows far more about the potential draftees than you and I. 1 Quote
nrc73 77 Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 Please give us your top 20 then with summary. I'll be fascinated. I'm sure others will too. Thanks And silence in response. Bit over ppl in this thread saying this person and that person rubbish but not coming up with their own preferred draft sources. 4 Quote
Gator 18,053 Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 And nor should you, but she knows far more about the potential draftees than you and I. And I've never suggested otherwise. Quote
stuie 7,374 Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 And I've never suggested otherwise. Fair enough. Just comes across like you're putting down all these people's opinions, people who know far more than us, without providing any reasoning for it. Quote
Wiseblood 24,637 Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 And silence in response. Bit over ppl in this thread saying this person and that person rubbish but not coming up with their own preferred draft sources. I'm a bit over people clearly not getting sarcasm on here. Machsy had his tongue firmly planted in his cheek with his response. Quote
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