Big props to Knightmare off big footy for idenifying this one early. Peaked my interest WAY before we taken him. So props to Knightmare. Oliver has a stubborn, one way mindset, I knew he would punish the selectors for dropping him. Most players would drop their head, this kid does the opposite - same as when he was overlooked for nationals in under 18s, responded by dominating TAC cup. Has that Jack Viney approach to life. We will smash GWS with kids like Oliver, Viney and Hogan.

4 minutes ago, AdamFarr said:

At the end of this year.

After we win the flag and Hogan signs on for the next 12 years,  gotchya 

2 minutes ago, 1 red eye 1 blue eye said:

especially intriguing when in his interviews he presents as being unsure how about how good he is  

that's called modesty

Theyll have to still manage the development o his tank, thats a reality. This year is a bit of a teaser. that's fine.

 

but please mfc   dont rest him in the big games. He lives for the BIG games

No it's good,  let Oliver keep thinking he's no good and we can convince him no one else will give him a game and we can keep him for cheap! 

 

2 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

that's called modesty

I like that

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4 minutes ago, 1 red eye 1 blue eye said:

I like that

yeah, an old fashioned concept these days - lol

hes a meat and 3 veg player . He just oozes (sic) Footy !!

9 hours ago, AdamFarr said:

I just like typing this out. How's this for a midfield: Viney, Oliver, Petracca with support from Tyson, Brayshaw and even Salem. Not to mention older guys in Vince and Jones. And the addition of Prestia next year.  That's a deep and talented midfield.

Add Trengove. 

I know we disagree about his pace,  but I reckon he'll become a pivotal cog in our midfield too. 

58 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Add Trengove. 

I know we disagree about his pace,  but I reckon he'll become a pivotal cog in our midfield too. 

Hope so mate. Always thought his first year was one of the most impressive first year debut i have seen in a very long time. Probably second behind Jeager bomb from Gold Coast.

11 hours ago, beelzebub said:

hes a meat and 3 veg player . He just oozes (sic) Footy !!

Meat and three vegs? He's a 10-course gourmet tasting menu!

7 minutes ago, mauriesy said:

Meat and three vegs? He's a 10-course gourmet tasting menu!

more like a smorgasbord

I need to revise the menu 

4 hours ago, ProDee said:

Add Trengove. 

I know we disagree about his pace,  but I reckon he'll become a pivotal cog in our midfield too. 

Yep, fair enough. Well, Jack only makes our midfield deeper. So that's 10 that can play in the midfield if we land Prestia (I think we will). Guys like Kennedy, Kent and Harmes will also move through there. That's a lot of blokes who can play there, currently in our best 22. It reminds me very much of Roos' 2005 Sydney team. They had a lot of guys that could move through there and they've built the list to Roos' philosophy - players must be multi-positional in modern footy.

Roos' term hasn't been flawless. I do wonder, like BB, whether we he could have flicked the offensive switch a bit earlier, but the list building appears to be first class.

Funny watching him, body, arms and legs flailing about at all angles and then the ball suddenly pops out straight to a team mate.

32 minutes ago, AdamFarr said:

Yep, fair enough. Well, Jack only makes our midfield deeper. So that's 10 that can play in the midfield if we land Prestia (I think we will). Guys like Kennedy, Kent and Harmes will also move through there. That's a lot of blokes who can play there, currently in our best 22. It reminds me very much of Roos' 2005 Sydney team. They had a lot of guys that could move through there and they've built the list to Roos' philosophy - players must be multi-positional in modern footy.

Roos' term hasn't been flawless. I do wonder, like BB, whether we he could have flicked the offensive switch a bit earlier, but the list building appears to be first class.

If we finish much higher on the ladder last year, we don't get Oliver and Weideman. If we finished higher the year before, we don't get Petracca and Brayshaw. Pretty happy he ensured our defensive foundations were in place, even if it took 2 years. We can't balance the attack and defence just yet, but once it all clicks together we'll see the benefit of Roos' first two years. These 4 top draft picks being a key side benefit, too.

10 minutes ago, SaberFang said:

If we finish much higher on the ladder last year, we don't get Oliver and Weideman. If we finished higher the year before, we don't get Petracca and Brayshaw. Pretty happy he ensured our defensive foundations were in place, even if it took 2 years. We can't balance the attack and defence just yet, but once it all clicks together we'll see the benefit of Roos' first two years. These 4 top draft picks being a key side benefit, too.

Yeah, spot on, mate. This is the other side to the playing the PR game with building the foundations. It allowed us to stockpile some draft picks and build this midfield.

1 minute ago, AdamFarr said:

Yeah, spot on, mate. This is the other side to the playing the PR game with building the foundations. It allowed us to stockpile some draft picks and build this midfield.

I get the feeling it was probably all part of the long-term plan right from the start.

Roos and Jackson are no muggs. It seems more and more clear to me that this was a stealth rebuild all along; they just couldn't admit it publicly without getting supporters off-side.

Gil McLachlan, Mark Evans, Sheehan.

Bartlett, Luke Darcy, Frawley, Jakovich, Ling, Matthew Richardson, and Tredrea.

Is still the make-up of the Rising Star panel? 

Clayton is a footballer. If the panelists take their role seriously and review the footage come season's end (where the 1%ers and the like become more evident) then this kid is a very strong chance to take home the trophy.

Love watching him play. Not only is he a tackling  clearance machine but he's also quite agile and is great above his head

I remember being impressed with Tyson in his first year how he would get the ball and then get separation using his hips but this guy just knows where he's going to dish it before he even gains possession 

 

3 hours ago, SaberFang said:

If we finish much higher on the ladder last year, we don't get Oliver and Weideman. If we finished higher the year before, we don't get Petracca and Brayshaw. Pretty happy he ensured our defensive foundations were in place, even if it took 2 years. We can't balance the attack and defence just yet, but once it all clicks together we'll see the benefit of Roos' first two years. These 4 top draft picks being a key side benefit, too.

SaberFang - I hope you aren't an alias for Chris (The Joker) Connolly!

Could have us pinged for some yet to be defined offence.

2 hours ago, Breggsy said:

Love watching him play. Not only is he a tackling  clearance machine but he's also quite agile and is great above his head

I remember being impressed with Tyson in his first year how he would get the ball and then get separation using his hips but this guy just knows where he's going to dish it before he even gains possession 

 

Better than just quite agile. Was top 3 at the combine

What a pick this bloke is proving to be! 

 

24 minutes ago, TheoX said:

Better than just quite agile. Was top 3 at the combine

And I think he scored a perfect score on the goal kicking comp.

don't call him clayton allover for nothing