Jump to content

Trade Radio Discussion

Featured Replies

 

not sure why Port would do that

Toumpas being a top 5 pick 3 years ago, and in a weak draft Port are backing themselves to get him to come right. If anything I'd say we are losing out if you focus on that part of the trade alone

Not dissimilar to us going with Melksham really, except he's played a lot more football than Toumpas.

Edited by Ouch!

Port payed more for Polec who had shown less than Toumpas IMHO.

Unless the Toumpas pick is going towards something greater, I'd rather keep Toump.

 

26,29,49 for pick 8?

that's what I was thinking. Maybe add our current 3rd rounder (pick 43) and give us Bugg

Toumpas being a top 5 pick 3 years ago, and in a weak draft Port are backing themselves to get him to come right. If anything I'd say we are losing out if you focus on that part of the trade alone

Not dissimilar to us going with Melksham really, except he's played a lot more football than Toumpas.

Toumpas is no longer a top 5 pick - he's a player that struggles to get a game in a side that sits in the bottom third of the ladder. No use valuing him by the number we took him in the draft.

If that deal occurs, we should be big winners.


The risk with Toumpas is not only that he won't come good, but that he will turn the ball over in a few crucial matches and quell their momentum and lose them a game or two ruling out any serious challenge for top 4 spot, if Port actually hit their stride next year. Really needs to fix his kicking efficiency and for that reason I want to see him traded.

Edited by johndemons

Hopefully becomes 26, 29 & 49 to GWS for pick 8 and Bugg

Why not add 43 to that and go for pick 7 (traded to GWS for Treloar)?

 

If we can finish the trade period with pick 6, 8, Melksham, Bugg & Kennedy and only lose Howe Toumpas and our second rounder (maybe third as well if part of the Bugg deal) I would say we have done very well.

Particularly if 6 & 8 can get us two of Curnow, Weideman and Milera

If we can finish the trade period with pick 6, 8, Melksham, Bugg & Kennedy and only lose Howe Toumpas and our second rounder (maybe third as well if part of the Bugg deal) I would say we have done very well.

Particularly if 6 & 8 can get us two of Curnow, Weideman and Milera

Speculation that we're talking to Goldie about securing a pick, so would the idea maybe be then to package up 6 & 8 and switch it for 3 - thereby locking away Parish?

Wouldn't mind it either way frankly.


6 & 8 sound like a steep price for pick 3, you'd think there'd be a later pick included to even it out if that were to happen. Also wouldn't be shocked if 3 wasn't used on Parish, but on someone like Weideman

Edited by grazman

If we can finish the trade period with pick 6, 8, Melksham, Bugg & Kennedy and only lose Howe Toumpas and our second rounder (maybe third as well if part of the Bugg deal) I would say we have done very well.

Can we lose Dawes as well? Think big!

Speculation that we're talking to Goldie about securing a pick, so would the idea maybe be then to package up 6 & 8 and switch it for 3 - thereby locking away Parish?

Wouldn't mind it either way frankly.

I'd rather bring in Weideman and Curnow with picks 6&8, than Parish with pick 3.

yeah two players would be a safer bet.

But I think Curnow is going to go earlier than our pick 6 no?

Why not add 43 to that and go for pick 7 (traded to GWS for Treloar)?

You'd have to do the maths... GWS want Kennedy and Hopper, so they will probably need 7 or 8 for them.... in which case its academic exercise which one of the two we have.


6 & 8 sound like a steep price for pick 3, you'd think there'd be a later pick included to even it out if that were to happen. Also wouldn't be shocked if 3 wasn't used on Parish, but on someone like Weideman

Indeed. It's a sort of Josh Kelly deal in reverse for us, and would be a surprise as such.

Trade Radio now saying Treloar deal first, then Howe deal done. I wish they'd make up their mind which order.

Two bob each way so they can spruik 'we got it right.'

NFI.

Looks to me a bit like this yeah? Obviously it might change between 3,4 and 5.

Excluding Academy picks

1. Carlton - Weitering

2. Brisbane - Schache

3. Gold Coast - Parish

4. Essendon - Francis

5. Saints - Curnow

6. Dees - Balic, Weideman, Milera?

Academy picks

Sydney - Mills

GWS - Hopper

GWS - Kennedy

I'm torn. I think Parish could be a terrific if not consistant midfielder with more potential then the already impressive player he is.

But having a creative player AND a possible key position player moving forward would be great also

Edited by mongrel

If we were to end up with 2 top 10 picks come draft time, we simply must take Weideman with one of them. Hogan needs another decent KPF for support.


Pretty much, looking like its

Collingwood lose Seedsman (Adel), Kennedy (Melb) and 26 (Melb)

Gain Howe and 28

Adelaide lose 28 (Coll) and gain Seedsman

Port Adelaide gain Toumpas (Melb) and pick 62 (melb) and lose 29 and 49 (Melb)

Melbourne gain lose Toumpas (port) and Howe (Coll) and pick 62 (Port)

and gain pick 29,26,49 and Ben Kennedy

Clearly we come out winners, but it seems pretty fair IMO, everyone wins

The Adelaide - Seedsman - Collingwood deal seems independent of the rest?

As others have said - hard to see why Port would add the 49 to 62 upgrade for us, especially when GC are asking for more than 10 for Dixon and 49 could be handy there. So Toumpas for 29 (or even with the 49/62 swap) is independent too.

Then it's just Howe for 26 + Kennedy.

Three independent trades - can't see why they aren't happening.

Edited by Fifty-5

Looks to me a bit like this yeah? Obviously it might change between 3,4 and 5.

Excluding Academy picks

1. Carlton - Weitering

2. Brisbane - Schache

3. Gold Coast - Parish

4. Essendon - Francis

5. Saints - Curnow

6. Dees - Balic, Weideman, Milera?

Academy picks

Sydney - Mills

GWS - Hopper

GWS - Kennedy

I'm torn. I think Parish could be a terrific if not consistant midfielder with more potential then the already impressive player he is.

But having a creative player AND a possible key position player moving forward would be great also

Teams have to bid for both Hooper AND Kennedy in the top 6 for GWS to have to use 8. With Mills in there to be bid as well, it may not happen and 8 will be a live pick for GWS.

The Adelaide - Seedsman - Collingwood deal seems independent of the rest?

As others have said - hard to see why Port would add the 49 to 62 upgrade for us, especially when GC are asking for more than 10 for Dixon and 49 could be handy there. So Toumpas for 29 (or even with the 49/62 swap) is independent too.

Then it's just Howe for 26 + Kennedy.

Three independent trades - can't see why they aren't happening.

i can only imagine its a case of the jitters 55. Its not these trades but the next ones ( in line ) You wouldnt want to necessarily commit to teh former if the deal youre trying to do afterwards isnt iron clad... just a thought

 

Trade Radio now saying Treloar deal first, then Howe deal done. I wish they'd make up their mind which order.

Two bob each way so they can spruik 'we got it right.'

NFI.

NFI more like one of the best clubs in the land , they would be saying [censored] Melbourne they can wait send that [censored] to the PSD

If we were to end up with 2 top 10 picks come draft time, we simply must take Weideman with one of them. Hogan needs another decent KPF for support.

If Frost is fit to go they might be thinking they have that issue covered


Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Featured Content

  • GAMEDAY: Rd 16 vs Gold Coast

    It's Game Day and the Demons are back on the road again and this may be the last roll of the dice to get their 2025 season back on track as they take on the Gold Coast Suns at People First Stadium.

      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 546 replies
  • PREVIEW: Gold Coast

    The Gold Coast Suns find themselves outside of the top eight for the first time since Round 1 with pressure is mounting on the entire organisation. Their coach Damien Hardwick expressed his frustration at his team’s condition last week by making a middle-finger gesture on television that earned him a fine for his troubles. He showed his desperation by claiming that Fox should pick up the tab.  There’s little doubt the Suns have shown improvement in 2025, and their position on the ladder is influenced to some extent by having played fewer games than their rivals for a playoff role at the end of the season, courtesy of the disruption caused by Cyclone Alfred in March.  However, they are following the same trajectory that hindered the club in past years whenever they appeared to be nearing their potential. As a consequence, that Hardwick gesture should be considered as more than a mere behavioral lapse. It’s a distress signal that does not bode well for the Queenslanders. While the Suns are eager to remain in contention with the top eight, Melbourne faces its own crisis, which is similarly deep-seated but in a much different way. After recovering from a disappointing start to the season and nearing a return to respectability among its peer clubs, the Demons have experienced a decline in status, driven by the fact that while their form has been reasonable (see their performance against the ladder leader in the Kings Birthday match), their conversion in front of goal is poor enough to rank last in the competition. Furthermore, their opponents find them exceptionally easy to score against. As a result, they have effectively eliminated themselves from the finals race and are again positioned to finish in the bottom half of the ladder.

      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 4 replies
  • NON-MFC: Round 15

    As the Demons head into their Bye Round, it's time to turn our attention to the other matches being played. Which teams are you tipping this week? And which results would be most favourable for the Demons if we can manage to turn our season around? Follow all the non-Melbourne games here and join the conversation as the ladder continues to take shape.

      • Like
    • 287 replies
  • REPORT: Port Adelaide

    Of course, it’s not the backline, you might argue and you would probably be right. It’s the boot studder (do they still have them?), the midfield, the recruiting staff, the forward line, the kicking coach, the Board, the interchange bench, the supporters, the folk at Casey, the head coach and the club psychologist  It’s all of them and all of us for having expectations that were sufficiently high to have believed three weeks ago that a restoration of the Melbourne team to a position where we might still be in contention for a finals berth when the time for the midseason bye arrived. Now let’s look at what happened over the period of time since Melbourne overwhelmed the Sydney Swans at the MCG in late May when it kicked 8.2 to 5.3 in the final quarter (and that was after scoring 3.8 to two straight goals in the second term). 

      • Clap
      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 3 replies
  • CASEY: Essendon

    Casey’s unbeaten run was extended for at least another fortnight after the Demons overran a persistent Essendon line up by 29 points at ETU Stadium in Port Melbourne last night. After conceding the first goal of the evening, Casey went on a scoring spree from about ten minutes in, with five unanswered majors with its fleet of midsized runners headed by the much improved Paddy Cross who kicked two in quick succession and livewire Ricky Mentha who also kicked an early goal. Leading the charge was recruit of the year, Riley Bonner while Bailey Laurie continued his impressive vein of form. With Tom Campbell missing from the lineup, Will Verrall stepped up to the plate demonstrating his improvement under the veteran ruckman’s tutelage. The Demons were looking comfortable for much of the second quarter and held a 25-point lead until the Bombers struck back with two goals in the shadows of half time. On the other side of the main break their revival continued with first three goals of the half. Harry Sharp, who had been quiet scrambled in the Demons’ first score of the third term to bring the margin back to a single point at the 17 minute mark and the game became an arm-wrestle for the remainder of the quarter and into the final moments of the last.

      • Clap
    • 0 replies
  • PREGAME: Gold Coast

    The Demons have the Bye next week but then are on the road once again when they come up against the Gold Coast Suns on the Gold Coast in what could be a last ditch effort to salvage their season. Who comes in and who comes out?

      • Thanks
    • 372 replies