I am sick of all the fluffed handballs, handballs into players backs, handballs behind players, air shot handballs, dribbled handballs, handballs straight to opposition players and handballs to players surrounded by opposition players.

We need someone like Sam to teach our list what a real handball looks like.

It is an indictment on the current coaches that so many of our players can't or won't improve their handball skills.

We get killed by the resulting turnover goals every week.

Has he retired???

Most frustrating is that we bleed goals mostly through either lack of effort, or just poor turnovers under minimal pressure. Dropped uncontested marks, fluffed handballs in the back half, hospital handpasses, poor kicks to players under pressure.

When on, we're very good, but when off, as Roos notes, our worst is still as bad as it's ever been. That gap suggests it's in the mind, just a lack of awareness and a breakdown of team fundamentals and dynamics.

I loved Big Maxy's 30 m handball to Viney on the weekend!

Was sweet.

Edited September 8, 201510 yr by PaulRB

I loved Big Maxy's 30 m handball to Viney on the weekend!

Was sweet.

Have you seen the video of Ah Chee's handballs? He is incredible.

Hand balling a footy is one thing, positioning from the bloke wanting it and timing from the bloke delivering it is an entirely different thing.

Guess where we fail?

Didn't you guys see Viney on the weekend. If you remember at the start of the year hardly any of his possessions ended in a Melbourne players hands, he has come a long way.

I'd suggest he's actually ahead of Sam Mitchell at the same stage of his career and every chance of becoming a better player by the end of it, hopefully just as decorated.

Its all very well to be critical especially when we play like we did against Carlton and Essendon but give some credit to the coaches, I reckon they would be tickled pink with Viney's game on the weekend.

This is just one of those negative threads that goes nowhere.

Stuff Sam Mitchell, I wouldn't trade Viney for him even if he came with a first round draft pick.

Some people go looking for gold when they have it lying around in their own back yard!

Also think Viney is ahead of Chunk Jones at this stage of his career in terms of disposal.

Viney is a diamond in the rough.

No knees-up from me .

I am sick of all the fluffed handballs, handballs into players backs, handballs behind players, air shot handballs, dribbled handballs, handballs straight to opposition players and handballs to players surrounded by opposition players.

We need someone like Sam to teach our list what a real handball looks like.

It is an indictment on the current coaches that so many of our players can't or won't improve their handball skills.

We get killed by the resulting turnover goals every week.

He throws most of them and never gets pinged.

Deadsh.t with no personality or apparent brain.

Would rather get Yze back.

Also think Viney is ahead of Chunk Jones at this stage of his career in terms of disposal.

Viney is a diamond in the rough.

Jones was a much more penetrating kick than Viney is and Jone's problem was always trying to do too much. Viney can spray a kick when he is under no pressure. I see more of a similarity with Tyson getting caught all the time and a young Jones except Tyson is ahead of where Jones was at the same age / games. Viney reminds me of a young Todd Viney except a much more reliable kick

He throws most of them and never gets pinged.Deadsh.t with no personality or apparent brain.Would rather get Yze back.

If we are looking to,add to our coaching panel, our first priority should be locking in Crossy as a playing development coach at Casey ( a la Shannon Byrnes)!

Being a teacher is a skill on its own. Just because a player has the ability to execute a particular skill well, doesn't necessarily mean they'll be able to teach others how to do it.

Would love to see Yze back at the club especially as a skills coach.

One area that Nat Jones has really improved is his goal kicking. Rarely misses and will often kick truly under pressure.

Being a teacher is a skill on its own. Just because a player has the ability to execute a particular skill well, doesn't necessarily mean they'll be able to teach others how to do it.

Yep. Sam Mitchell is an instinctive 2 sided footballer with ridiculous awareness and balance. Can't teach that.

Being a teacher is a skill on its own. Just because a player has the ability to execute a particular skill well, doesn't necessarily mean they'll be able to teach others how to do it.

Agreed. Can you imagine Gary Ablett Senior as a coach?

Being a teacher is a skill on its own. Just because a player has the ability to execute a particular skill well, doesn't necessarily mean they'll be able to teach others how to do it.

Agreed. Corky's aren't that simple.