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The Incredible Hulk - Jesse Hogan

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  On 27/03/2016 at 22:51, Peter Griffen said:

I really think he is suffering because of three major things.

1. the weight of expectation is getting to him, he had a huge deal on the table from the MFC, and he decided to put talks on hold for now, that carries some risk that if his form drops away sharply the offer may not be the same when he re-opens talks  ( for me he's going okay at the moment though )

2. he is not understanding that just because he is talented beyond belief that it's going to be his hard work that gets him through the moments where it's not going all his way, not his talent, this is something Macca was talking to him about at training last week, " if it's not going all your way, which happens to every player, simplify things, don't worry about goals just set yourself the goal of doing 1 or 2 things really well, like don't be outmarked and get to as many contests as you can" 

3. i think we have one to many talls down there and it's crowding the forward line! i personally think Watts is good enough on currant form to be the second big and allow us to play an extra small/medium forward

Just how important a part of our coaching panel is Macca?  Very underrated I suspect.   

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    Before I comment, I freely admit that I am no AFL playing expert.  However, 2 things struck me early in the game on Saturday.  JH was double teamed mostly and mauled by the opposition. Davis was into him even before the first bounce - fair enough.  But, in the first quarter alone he deserved at least 2 frees in the forward 50.  Nope, Sweeney Todd (Razor Ray and his cohorts) would have none of it.  Second, it amazed me that there were no crumbers at his feet. Contrast that with the Geelong 'smalls' hovering around Hawkins and Dixon yesterday.  

    To me what mattered most, was when the coach asked for a greater effort in the last quarter, it was Jesse who was one of the ones who put his hand up.  That shows something about the "kid".

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    The 'kid' is already a champion (In the making). But the main point is that he is still young and maturing. He is a competitive beast that doesn't like losing and until he matures in time we will see him wearing his heart on his sleeve. 

    He is not above learning the things required of him in all aspects of the game but this too will come in good time. 

    Just sit back, relax and watch the kid grow and mature into one of the best players we will see in our lifetime. 

     

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      On 29/03/2016 at 07:48, DeeMfc said:

    The 'kid' is already a champion. But the main point is that he is still young and maturing. He is a competitive beast that doesn't like losing and until he matures in time we will see him wearing his heart on his sleeve. 

    He is not above learning the things required of him in all aspects of the game but this too will come in good time. 

    Just sit back, relax and watch the kid grow and mature into one of the best players we will see in our lifetime. 

     

    Not yet.

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    His attitude is a bit like Jack Riewoldt used to be. Comes with being a competitive beast. You have to accept the whole package which will moderate in time. Reckon he would like to be a body line fast bowler.

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      On 29/03/2016 at 07:56, Return to Glory said:

    Not yet.

    Compare him to any of the past champions at the same stage of their careers. 

    Having said that I have edited for accuracy.

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      On 29/03/2016 at 08:09, DeeMfc said:

    Compare him to any of the past champions at the same stage of their careers. 

    Having said that I have edited for accuracy.

    I understand your sentiment DM and I want him to be a champion player for the Melbourne FC too. For starters, I just bought my daughter a Jesse Hogan badge with a view to it being relevant in 2018. However, a fair bit can go wrong and I don't subscribe to the early age comparisons (in terms of them being gospel like)

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      On 29/03/2016 at 08:20, Return to Glory said:

    I understand your sentiment DM and I want him to be a champion player for the Melbourne FC too. For starters, I just bought my daughter a Jesse Hogan badge with a view to it being relevant in 2018. However, a fair bit can go wrong and I don't subscribe to the early age comparisons (in terms of them being gospel like)

    Agreed. Hence the edit for accuracy.

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    Apparently Karl Langdon said on 6PR last night he is a lock to come back to WA and it is just a question of the end of this year or next.

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      On 30/03/2016 at 09:41, schmuttt said:

    Apparently Karl Langdon said on 6PR last night he is a lock to come back to WA and it is just a question of the end of this year or next.

    Langdon is a nut.  I wouldn't put any credence in the drivel that spews forth from his mouth.

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      On 30/03/2016 at 09:41, schmuttt said:

    Apparently Karl Langdon said on 6PR last night he is a lock to come back to WA and it is just a question of the end of this year or next.

    Obviously homesick like McCarthy, lol.

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    lol headline grabbing.. it's rubbish

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    I completely agree its crap FWIW, I'd imagine Jesse has all options open and will till at least the end of this year.

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    I also strongly believe he is gone. Anyone who couldnt pick up the awkward, quiet tone in his voice during that line of questioning the other week is just in denial. Nevertheless,  i will enjoy the games he has left for us. We will be well compensated and hopefully the Weed comes on as expected.

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      On 30/03/2016 at 10:25, Munga said:

    I also strongly believe he is gone. Anyone who couldnt pick up the awkward, quiet tone in his voice during that line of questioning the other week is just in denial. Nevertheless,  i will enjoy the games he has left for us. We will be well compensated and hopefully the Weed comes on as expected.

    It comes as no surprise that, when I saw you had replied in this thread, that this was the exact opinion you would take Munga.

    Keep on trolling, son.

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    On the Scully score Jesse is coming up a zero. Langdon obviously wasn't one of the 28,000 there to witness his celebrations at the siren on Saturday. He is invested in this club.

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      On 30/03/2016 at 10:29, Wiseblood said:

    It comes as no surprise that, when I saw you had replied in this thread, that this was the exact opinion you would take Munga.

    Keep on trolling, son.

    An opinion that doesnt fit what we all hope for is not trolling. It just shows how much posters dont want to hear the potentially ugly reality that it is called trolling. i hope he stays but my opinion is he wont.

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      On 30/03/2016 at 10:46, fndee said:

    On the Scully score Jesse is coming up a zero. Langdon obviously wasn't one of the 28,000 there to witness his celebrations at the siren on Saturday. He is invested in this club.

    Oh please...

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      On 30/03/2016 at 10:46, fndee said:

    On the Scully score Jesse is coming up a zero. Langdon obviously wasn't one of the 28,000 there to witness his celebrations at the siren on Saturday. He is invested in this club.

    talk about confirmation bias. of course he was pumped. AFL players are competitors. they want to win on any given day.  

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    I'll believe Hogan's gone when he's standing at a press conference in his Freo trackies.  Until then I'll give him the benefit of the considerable doubt and assume he's staying, enjoy watching his rise, and tune out from the blowhards like Langdon who always chuck this kind of carp out there to try and remain relevant.  

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      On 30/03/2016 at 10:25, Munga said:

    I also strongly believe he is gone. Anyone who couldnt pick up the awkward, quiet tone in his voice during that line of questioning the other week is just in denial. Nevertheless,  i will enjoy the games he has left for us. We will be well compensated and hopefully the Weed comes on as expected.

     

     

    Did you see his celebration on the weekend when the siren went?  And after AVB kicked that important goal?

    Hogans going nowhere. he loves the MFC.

     

    And Karl Langdon is a [censored] of the highest order. He brings new meaning to the word 'clueless'.

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      On 30/03/2016 at 11:22, Petraccattack said:

     

     

    Did you see his celebration on the weekend when the siren went?  And after AVB kicked that important goal?

    Hogans going nowhere. he loves the MFC.

     

    And Karl Langdon is a [censored] of the highest order. He brings new meaning to the word 'clueless'.

    means nothing

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