THE DRUG SCANDAL: AFL TRIBUNAL DECIDES

[Chris 2,892]

We all await with baited breath...well, some of us more-so than others, wink wink.

Look guys, the reason for my appearance here is that certain information being posted in this thread is patently false. Now whether that is intentional or not, I have no idea but these posts have become the source of amusement on other forums, which led me to your fine site. So I will leave you all to it with a suggestion that once WADA pass on any appeal at some point during the next week, then move on as threads like this do a disservice to otherwise good forums.

Would they be EFC forums by any chance? If so then they certainly don't have any leg to stand on in that regard!

Has been great having you here Hirdy (or appointed staff member), see you next Tuesday!

[Dees2014 2,377]

We all await with baited breath...well, some of us more-so than others, wink wink.

Look guys, the reason for my appearance here is that certain information being posted in this thread is patently false. Now whether that is intentional or not, I have no idea but these posts have become the source of amusement on other forums, which led me to your fine site. So I will leave you all to it with a suggestion that once WADA pass on any appeal at some point during the next week, then move on as threads like this do a disservice to otherwise good forums.

At no stage has SP mounted any arguments which rationally argue the falsity of our posts. His first post was a direct attack on my summary of the current situation so I can only assume the "amusement" caused by our posts refers to mine.

I challenge him to pick apart what I wrote and prove that I am wrong. I look forward to a reasoned and rational rebuttal, not the personal abuse and bluster we have seen so far.

By the way funny how the term "move on" creeps into the narrative, since it has been the principle mantra of the Hird campaign since the AFL Tribunal decision.

Me Thinks SP may have inadvertently revealed himself...

[Dr John Dee 1,057]

We all await with baited breath...well, some of us more-so than others, wink wink.

Look guys, the reason for my appearance here is that certain information being posted in this thread is patently false. Now whether that is intentional or not, I have no idea but these posts have become the source of amusement on other forums, which led me to your fine site. So I will leave you all to it with a suggestion that once WADA pass on any appeal at some point during the next week, then move on as threads like this do a disservice to otherwise good forums.

No wonder my wife keeps on complaining about the fishy smell.

[ManDee 7,239]

We all await with baited breath...well, some of us more-so than others, wink wink.

Look guys, the reason for my appearance here is that certain information being posted in this thread is patently false. Now whether that is intentional or not, I have no idea but these posts have become the source of amusement on other forums, which led me to your fine site. So I will leave you all to it with a suggestion that once WADA pass on any appeal at some point during the next week, then move on as threads like this do a disservice to otherwise good forums.

Sardines for breakfast Hirdy?

Edit: Beaten to the punch line again, Thanks DJD

Edited May 5, 2015 by ManDee

[Dr John Dee 1,057]

Sardines for breakfast Hirdy?

Edit: Beaten to the punch line again, Thanks DJD

Sorry ManDee. Great minds etc ...

[Chris 2,892]

At no stage has SP mounted any arguments which rationally argue the falsity of our posts. His first post was a direct attack on my summary of the current situation so I can only assume the "amusement" caused by our posts refers to mine.

I challenge him to pick apart what I wrote and prove that I am wrong. I look forward to a reasoned and rational rebuttal, not the personal abuse and bluster we have seen so far.

By the way funny how the term "move on" creeps into the narrative, since it has been the principle mantra of the Hird campaign since the AFL Tribunal decision.

Me Thinks SP may have inadvertently revealed himself...

The only thing they questioned, which I did as well, was your statement about the burden of proof being lower at CAS. This isn't technically true, both the AFL tribunal and CAS will be heard with comfortable satisfaction being the burden of proof. this is a sliding scale though, and various lawyers have said that they think CAS will hear the case with a lower version of comfortable satisfaction.

I put this to SP and just like most EFC fans just dismissed it as it didn't suit their agenda.

[deefrag 277]

We all await with baited breath...well, some of us more-so than others, wink wink.

Look guys, the reason for my appearance here is that certain information being posted in this thread is patently false. Now whether that is intentional or not, I have no idea but these posts have become the source of amusement on other forums, which led me to your fine site. So I will leave you all to it with a suggestion that once WADA pass on any appeal at some point during the next week, then move on as threads like this do a disservice to otherwise good forums.

Well Sanitypad, you are a perfect example of how out of touch with the real world PR hacks are, only Armstrong and Hird would would pay for this sort of stuff . . out of desperation!!

Who cares what the tribunal said! Essendon now emits a foul stench that will hang in the air for as long as Aussie rules is played . . what a fine legacy!!

Chrs MATE!!

[Whispering_Jack 30,949]

We all await with baited breath...well, some of us more-so than others, wink wink.

Look guys, the reason for my appearance here is that certain information being posted in this thread is patently false. Now whether that is intentional or not, I have no idea but these posts have become the source of amusement on other forums, which led me to your fine site. So I will leave you all to it with a suggestion that once WADA pass on any appeal at some point during the next week, then move on as threads like this do a disservice to otherwise good forums.

Could you please elaborate on which information you allege is being posted in this thread which is patently false?

[ManDee 7,239]

We all await with baited breath...well, some of us more-so than others, wink wink.

Look guys, the reason for my appearance here is that certain information being posted in this thread is patently false. Now whether that is intentional or not, I have no idea but these posts have become the source of amusement on other forums, which led me to your fine site. So I will leave you all to it with a suggestion that once WADA pass on any appeal at some point during the next week, then move on as threads like this do a disservice to otherwise good forums.

I read this today and sanitypads came to mind.

"He's someone who never lets complete ignorance of a subject get in the way of having strong opinions about it."

Edit:-

Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do.- Isaac Asimov

Edited May 5, 2015 by ManDee

[Whispering_Jack 30,949]

At no stage has SP mounted any arguments which rationally argue the falsity of our posts. His first post was a direct attack on my summary of the current situation so I can only assume the "amusement" caused by our posts refers to mine.

I challenge him to pick apart what I wrote and prove that I am wrong. I look forward to a reasoned and rational rebuttal, not the personal abuse and bluster we have seen so far.

By the way funny how the term "move on" creeps into the narrative, since it has been the principle mantra of the Hird campaign since the AFL Tribunal decision.

Me Thinks SP may have inadvertently revealed himself...

Sounds like an Essendon fan trying to silence debate by delivering a misguided uppercut?

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

Sounds like an Essendon fan trying to silence debate by delivering a misguided uppercut?

And alot like the Essendons football clubs defense during the whole saga, mindless arm waving totally void of any facts or significant arguments to back up their position.

[ManDee 7,239]

Sounds like an Essendon fan trying to silence debate by delivering a misguided uppercut?

Sometimes they fool you by walking upright.

[Wilbur 447]

This thread is as good as some of the nonsense posted on bf's htb thread - An independent tribunal of highly qualified professionals found ASADA's case hopelessly constructed & didnt come close to proving their burden (& lets not forget the issue of 'manufactured evidence', I mean seriously what did these clowns at ASADA think they were doing??), but it is Essendon people that are being accused of having their heads in the sand?? That's laughable as I suspect deep down most of you here full well know.

Anyhoo, have fun hanging on for WADA to appeal & those blood tests to suddenly all come back positive (all 2 of them). Really life's too short.

The EFC apparently can't remember or lost records of a drug the majority of its list was injected with. sounds legit

[Dr John Dee 1,057]

The EFC apparently can't remember or lost records of a drug the majority of its list was injected with. sounds legit

"Hird said he wasn’t certain what was given to Essendon players in 2012 but he was confident they never received a banned substance." (April 1 2015 ... by some small coincidence, April Fool's Day)

[binman 44,201]

All bluster aside the clock is ticking on the WADA appeal.

[H_T 3,049]

Like most, I find this matter an absolute bore now. However, I find it quite amusing the calls for "let's move on" ...

Whatever the case might be with WADA, the facts remain that the EFC were found guilty of poor governance, failed to keep critical records for off-site injecting regimes that were frankly a disgrace, in doing so cannot confirm what was injected under their regime, under their watch. And most of all, failed due diligence in caring for their own players. And the EFC as a result of this guilty finding were punished.

It's own independant report was damning enough, let alone the 2 years 3 months of blight and stench on this great games history. A black phase indeed that will never be forgot. How embarrassing.

This is well known internationally, and has embarrassed not only the code, but our country.

Anyone trying to hose down this disgrace, referring to the players getting off due to a failure by ASADA to secure and confirm key witnesses standing by their original statements at a "AFL tribunal hearing" are a disgrace to them self.

The old saying goes, where there is smoke, there is fire.

Well, quite frankly that all allegedly went up in smoke when the shredders overheated and caught fire.

[deefrag 277]

Like most, I find this matter an absolute bore now. However, I find it quite amusing the calls for "let's move on" ...

Whatever the case might be with WADA, the facts remain that the EFC were found guilty of poor governance, failed to keep critical records for off-site injecting regimes that were frankly a disgrace, in doing so cannot confirm what was injected under their regime, under their watch. And most of all, failed due diligence in caring for their own players. And the EFC as a result of this guilty finding were punished.

It's own independant report was damning enough, let alone the 2 years 3 months of blight and stench on this great games history. A black phase indeed that will never be forgot. How embarrassing.

This is well known internationally, and has embarrassed not only the code, but our country.

Anyone trying to hose down this disgrace, referring to the players getting off due to a failure by ASADA to secure and confirm key witnesses standing by their original statements at a "AFL tribunal hearing" are a disgrace to them self.

The old saying goes, where there is smoke, there is fire.

Well, quite frankly that all allegedly went up in smoke when the shredders overheated and caught fire.

[dpositive 1,767]

Has Eddie taken the EFC model to its next conclusion.

I saw him asked about the fate of the 2 Collingwood players charged

His reply "I know nothing"

presumably there are no records of what they did and are doing to ensure there are no links to their activities and the club.

Its a new management style introduced by EFC

[deefrag 277]

The Good The Bad and The Hirdy!!

Todd Viney on "The Couch" last nite reminded me of good times at the D's. Times nearly as good as those when legends like Peter Marquis and Athol Webb were vying to get their number on the back of my Melbourne jumper! But I'm afraid the last few years and the doping disgrace sapped my enthusiasm for footy to the extent that only Hogan can now bring on a faint smile. It's sad to admit that the only thing binding me to Footy now is the hate and loathing for Hird and his band of outlaws, I sense my interest in footy will cease completely once the cheats get their comeuppance and I get to see them . . all of em . . dangle on the end of a rope!l

[beelzebub 23,388]

All bluster aside the clock is ticking on the WADA appeal.

the clock may tick for WADA but the Bell tolls for Essendon !

[binman 44,201]

the clock may tick for WADA but the Bell tolls for Essendon !

Well that remains to be seen.

I will say one thing - if wada do appeal you and dee2014 will have every justification to crow about it. I hope you both get the chance

[DemonFrog 1,356]

So I see more cult members are coming to this thread to join in our discussions.

[Macca 17,081]

So what are the chances that WADA appeal?

Does anyone know whether WADA has a history of pulling the trigger at the last moment or "going early"? (when they do appeal in these matters)

I reckon we'll find out by the weekend - maybe Friday.

[Sir Why You Little 37,242]

6 days and counting...

[Willmoy1947 4,170]

Any suggestions on who will spill the beans first if and when WADA does appeal?