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THE DRUG SCANDAL: AFL TRIBUNAL DECIDES


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Don't forget that the RSL brought into the idea in the first place. As the President of the RSL at the time, Bruce Ruxton was a massive supporter of the concept. My understanding from speaking with a couple of RSL Head Office types is that the RSL credit the Anzac Day game as a significant component in the resurrection of Anzac Day as a major day of respect.

By the way, the RSL's Victorian CEO, Mike Annett, is a Melbourne supporter.

My point is that the original notion is now corrupted beyond recognition.

Vast difference between acknowledging heroism and all that is Anzac...and the league portraying these players with anything approaching a similar ideal.

They ( RSL ) ought to be aghast...I am ...and am a member. ive let my Branch President know it too,.

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needs to be an investigation into the AFL tribunal

The three judges are clearly not up to standard. This was always going to be a joke as long as was in AFL jurisdiction

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lol.

Can't believe he was cleared. The guy tried to source TB4 from China and was cleared of "attempting to administer TB4".

This whole thing is a complete travesty.

Bring on CAS.

Really? If the Tribunal wasn't comfortably satisfied that the players took TB4, then it stands to reason that the Tribunal couldn't be satisfied that someone else provided it. This decision seems to be a logical extension of the last. (I'm not arguing that the previous decision was correct - just that the decision regarding Dank's involvement just logically follows.)

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needs to be an investigation into the AFL tribunal

The three judges are clearly not up to standard. This was always going to be a joke as long as was in AFL jurisdiction

If CAS come to a different decision I think it was expose this very conclusion.

I'm sure the AFL will find a way to spin it though.

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needs to be an investigation into the AFL tribunal

The three judges are clearly not up to standard. This was always going to be a joke as long as was in AFL jurisdiction

The thing for mine is that unlike when in the REAL judiciary they are accountable to their peers and such here the 3 wise ones could do pretty well what they liked.

All they had to do in the end is say.."Nah....coz !! "

I mean fmd ..like kids in a school yard.

Fortunately there IS a real court of justice that can apply reason.

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Really? If the Tribunal wasn't comfortably satisfied that the players took TB4, then it stands to reason that the Tribunal couldn't be satisfied that someone else provided it. This decision seems to be a logical extension of the last. (I'm not arguing that the previous decision was correct - just that the decision regarding Dank's involvement just logically follows.)

I'm not so sure.

The decision illustrated that they were satisfied with the supply chain and intent of those within the supply chain to source TB4.

The players got off because they couldn't prove they knew what they were taking. That doesn't really apply to Dank as he knew he was trying to source the TB4.

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This entire process is a complete and utter debacle. The AFL and the EFC can GAGF.

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I am at a complete loss as to how the Tribunal has come up with this conclusion based upon the "comfortable satisfaction" standard of proof it needed to apply to the totality of the evidence. Perhaps, if they released the findings to the public, some light could be shed on their thinking but there are too many logical inconsistencies here for me to be comfortably satisfied that a fair and reasonable outcome has been achieved. Unless WADA is prepared to take this to CAS in Switzerland, it's unlikely that we'll ever know the full story but it's not good news for the Essendon players who have been given legal protection for technical reasons and will now have to wear the mantle of "drug cheats" possibly for the rest of their lives. For their sakes, let's hope that the concoctions injected into them aren't harmful to their long term health.

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I am at a complete loss as to how the Tribunal has come up with this conclusion

you know what...I'm not !! :huh:

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you know what...I'm not !! :huh:

I bet even though Gil said he wants the evidence to eventally be made public in in timely manner, I doubt it would ever see the light of day. Just like Hird and Dank were chomping on the bit to have the truth revealed. How can anyone trust justice delivered in secrecy behind closed doors? No me, so I have no respect for the tribunal, judges and their decision. As far as I am concerned they are as corrupt and tainted as the system. It is for them to prove to me otherwise.

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Me neither...but I'm not sure this is going anywhere now. Just hope WADA take this on, I don't think ASADA can politically as they've been snookered.

I think WADA will.

In a sense it has to...otherwise the floodgates open globally to this sort of rort.

its a now or never situation

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you know what...I'm not !! :huh:

Law student Chris Kaias who has been following the saga closely has tweeted

@ChrisKaias: Having a read through the summary some of the findings do seem a bit logically inconsistent on their face. Full reasons would be interesting.

Rumour has it that the three tribunal members have been practicing for next year's Olympics in the sport of gymnastics.

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Rumour has it that the three tribunal members have been practicing for next year's Olympics in the sport of gymnastics.

Are they looking to supplement their routine exercise regime ? :rolleyes::unsure:

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Law student Chris Kaias who has been following the saga closely has tweeted

Eg guilty of intending to traffick TB-4 to Ess players but not guilty of attempting to administer it to Ess players.

Glad Im not the only one who sees the hypocrisy in the deal with "comfort"

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Law student Chris Kaias who has been following the saga closely has tweeted

Rumour has it that the three tribunal members have been practicing for next year's Olympics in the sport of gymnastics.

Or synchronised swimming.

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Red, are you embarrassed by your "mate"? I sure as hell would be.

Absolutely reeks of a setup.

They took the extra time, to decide how they could find the creep guilty, without needing to convict the drug cheats.

Absolutely, totally sickening.

2014, where are you? I need some words of WADA comfort, before I go homicidal.

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Sandor Earl to face NRL anti-doping tribunal on new charges

sorta makes you think the NRL & AFL are on different planets , let alone different pages !! :wacko:

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