Actually in case you hadn't noticed curry, it's a thread about contact negotiations with Jeremy Howe, not preseason injuries. Your boorish golden ticket rubbish has no one interested and to think otherwise is delusional. Tell us again how little we'll get in FA compo for Howe despite him not being one?! Bwahahahaha!

Good thread everyone.

Almost made it half a page before completely losing the topic

Actually in case you hadn't noticed curry, it's a thread about contact negotiations with Jeremy Howe, not preseason injuries. Your boorish golden ticket rubbish has no one interested and to think otherwise is delusional. Tell us again how little we'll get in FA compo for Howe despite him not being one?! Bwahahahaha!

Nail on the head moon.

Howe's a required player.

Sign him up.

Howe's a required player.

Sign him up.

is he ??

Hes handy on a day...Came in set world alight........ fires diminished somewhat since

Tbh not that fussed. There'll be others...just saying

Wasnt fussed about chip...even less with Howe. stays good..Goes...so be it...

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1. Howe's a good player and we should try to keep him.

2. He may not be a free agent, but as the Tom Boyd deal showed, not being a free agent doesn't necessarily mean a player will not engineer a move if he wants to go.

3. C & B is right. We might all be sick of his drumming the phrase 'golden ticket' but Demonland has perennially given any poor performer during the year a ready-made excuse if he didn't get to complete a full pre-season.

IF jeremy desides to go we aren't going to let him go cheap, from a marketing sense he offers any football club a lot, combined with his huge level of talent.

if we lose Jeremy i think we will get something good back anyway so it shouldn't be a huge loss

but i think he'll stay on

Must stay.

Potential to be the best HBF in the AFL.

or

Potential to be the best HFF in the AFL

is he ??

Hes handy on a day...Came in set world alight........ fires diminished somewhat since

Tbh not that fussed. There'll be others...just saying

Wasnt fussed about chip...even less with Howe. stays good..Goes...so be it...

next

Need this bloke to stay....agree about Chip.

Don't underrate the marketing value of this guy. Howey sells tickets and memberships. Period.

He can also play a bit.

Sign him up.

Must stay.

Potential to be the best HBF in the AFL.

or

Potential to be the best HFF in the AFL

Dont see it that way tbh

Now into his 5th season..."Potential" shouldn't be a view. He ought to be established. ..now refining.

Needs to be far more accomplished and roubded as a player.

For mine...any hesitation to sign ...get rid of him.

Roos will know this..in him I trust

Auction is open, we have shown recently that we only make one or two bids. I would suggest that if there is a club that really wants him they will get him.

See what happens.

Any mids with leadership want to come to the Dees?

Dont see it that way tbh

Now into his 5th season..."Potential" shouldn't be a view. He ought to be established. ..now refining.

Needs to be far more accomplished and roubded as a player.

For mine...any hesitation to sign ...get rid of him.

Roos will know this..in him I trust

Me too - Roos knows what he's got...

He's in his second year of decent coaching....let's see what unfolds.

Don't underrate the marketing value of this guy. Howey sells tickets and memberships. Period.

He can also play a bit.

Sign him up.

With all due respect

Stuff marketing as it were...am interested in players that get us wins

WINS=Marketing at its best

If the club is happy to let Jeremy test the market that is good - it says: 'we would like you but we are not desperate to sign you'. So we keep our negotiating cards up our sleeve.

At the risk of setting off scenarios on future trades when it is still preseason...if rumours about GWS offering pick 6 for him last year are true it suggests a trade is possible for a mid 1st round pick. Handy to use for a trade in of a very good ruckman as based on last night we need one. Alternatively, it would be a good pick to package up for a free agent.

Roos made it very clear at the B & F: if you don't want to commit to the club then hit the road! Evidence: Sylvia, Frawley, Clarke. Really hope Jeremy stays but my emotion is now invested in the team and the club less so to individual players.

Auction is open, we have shown recently that we only make one or two bids. I would suggest that if there is a club that really wants him they will get him.

See what happens.

Any mids with leadership want to come to the Dees?

It needs to be made very clear - that if a club really wants him they will only get him if they finish down the tail of the ladder and he is free to walk into their club OR they deal with us.

If the player is not a free agent then he doesn't have free access to go anywhere.

The angst over him going to a Sydney or Hawks - he can only get there if we deal with them. ( assuming that both those clubs will finish near the top of the ladder)

Roos will say he is a required player, in our top 6.

Then we swap him for Toby Greene or Dylan Shiel.

Roos will say he is a required player, in our top 6.

Then we swap him for Toby Greene or Dylan Shiel.

Not going anywhere....see previous posts on 'pact boys'

Must stay.

Potential to be the best HBF in the AFL.

or

Potential to be the best HFF in the AFL

I might be too sentimental and place too much on loyalty in a market that doesn't necessarily reward it, but Howe was plucked from nowhere by the club and given every chance to shine. If he were to leave I'd be disappointed in him for basically saying 'thanks for the support and the great opportunity but I need an extra 100K and instant gratification'.

I understood Chip leaving as he was here for all of it, but I'll be really disappointed if someone like Howe leaves straight away. It will confirm that loyalty to the club that drafts you is done and dusted, and what a shame that will be.

Not going anywhere....see previous posts on 'pact boys'

Yes, and players and clubs don't change their minds.

Jeremy Howe would bring more through the gates than Shiel or Cameron.

I might be too sentimental and place too much on loyalty in a market that doesn't necessarily reward it, but Howe was plucked from nowhere by the club and given every chance to shine. If he were to leave I'd be disappointed in him for basically saying 'thanks for the support and the great opportunity but I need an extra 100K and instant gratification'.

I understood Chip leaving as he was here for all of it, but I'll be really disappointed if someone like Howe leaves straight away. It will confirm that loyalty to the club that drafts you is done and dusted, and what a shame that will be.

I agree, and i really don't think he is going anywhere, i think his manager has stressed to him the importance of this particular contract, it's the biggest decision he will make in his career and told him to really take the time to make the right decision here, which is totally fair enough and well within his rights.

i think GWS are the ones who are going to offer him way overs if anyone does, and if that happens i'm sure we'd be well compensated but it would be extremely disappointing.

I agree, and i really don't think he is going anywhere, i think his manager has stressed to him the importance of this particular contract, it's the biggest decision he will make in his career and told him to really take the time to make the right decision here, which is totally fair enough and well within his rights.

i think GWS are the ones who are going to offer him way overs if anyone does, and if that happens i'm sure we'd be well compensated but it would be extremely disappointing.

I don't think he is either, but the idea he might is something that doesn't sit well with me. I'm happy to look a little silly by still living in the 'past, so to speak, of how players approach their latest contracts as I'm fully aware the landscape has changed. But Howe was working and playing local league footy when we took the punt on him, put the time into him and helped to turn him into the player he is today.

I'd be shattered if he turned his back on us like that for the instant gratification of a top 4 club, as clearly we can offer him the money he may want.

We still have the power though as he isn't unrestricted so we can match any offer, but I'm holding out hope it doesn't get to that point.

I don't know about you guys, but a straight swap for Shiel would get me more excited than retaining Howe.

(Please don't jump down my throat, I am entitled to my own opinion. Back off if you're about to verbally spit out diarrhea of criticisms with the wrath of a thousand gods that sometimes makes this forum a terrible place to post on even though we all support the same team here)

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I don't think he is either, but the idea he might is something that doesn't sit well with me. I'm happy to look a little silly by still living in the 'past, so to speak, of how players approach their latest contracts as I'm fully aware the landscape has changed. But Howe was working and playing local league footy when we took the punt on him, put the time into him and helped to turn him into the player he is today.

I'd be shattered if he turned his back on us like that for the instant gratification of a top 4 club, as clearly we can offer him the money he may want.

We still have the power though as he isn't unrestricted so we can match any offer, but I'm holding out hope it doesn't get to that point.

Something i think the club would speak about is winning a flag with melbourne after all the hard times would mean so much more than effectively selling out to get one at another club, PAV played his whole career at an average freo side and stayed loyal despite big offers, he's now gaining the chance to finish with their first every flag.

If the club is happy to let Jeremy test the market that is good - it says: 'we would like you but we are not desperate to sign you'. So we keep our negotiating cards up our sleeve.

At the risk of setting off scenarios on future trades when it is still preseason...if rumours about GWS offering pick 6 for him last year are true it suggests a trade is possible for a mid 1st round pick. Handy to use for a trade in of a very good ruckman as based on last night we need one. Alternatively, it would be a good pick to package up for a free agent.

Roos made it very clear at the B & F: if you don't want to commit to the club then hit the road! Evidence: Sylvia, Frawley, Clarke. Really hope Jeremy stays but my emotion is now invested in the team and the club less so to individual players.

The actual world within which AFL exits is starting to align itself more with how Ive viewed the game for a long long while. Players are just that. Theyll come, theyll go. I invest little in them. I love the club>I want to see the team prosper and dont really care who wears the guernsey as long as they do it proudly and give there all as is the deal they agree to.

The players movements will become even more fluid in time.

its upon this that I then judge a players use to us.

I dont want any more Frawleys etc.. no more Judas's.

I dont care if Howe goes....and if he stays he needs to pick his socks up.

Hes had some good games and a lot more very average ones.

if hes worth more as a commodity why hesitate.