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Honestly you guys are a bunch of little children, my training reports are better than your reports, just read the reports, just report the facts, not opinion, otherwise you are just like Caroline Wilson.

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I for one like Mo64s take on things. This two grabbing thing Dawes does annoy me no end. And if are going to be something resembling an AFL-standard team Spencer and others have to start marking everything in sight. It the old cricket saying, if the balls in the air and you get a hand on it, it's a drop! Guys like Talia from Adelaide have little trouble catching the ball.

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Hopefully he is able to be hugely more accountable for his opponent and much better with the football than magner

This.

And better with his twitter account and fans....

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I for one like Mo64s take on things. This two grabbing thing Dawes does annoy me no end. And if are going to be something resembling an AFL-standard team Spencer and others have to start marking everything in sight. It the old cricket saying, if the balls in the air and you get a hand on it, it's a drop! Guys like Talia from Adelaide have little trouble catching the ball.

I have no problem with mo64 's take on things either, but I was also there and watched some of the same drills, so if I have a different viewpoint to report, I will

Dawes two grabs occasionally, as long as the second grab secures the ball, there is no problem, or is there?

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Only if the second attempt does not lead to a spoil or the mark being 55 out instead of 50

Agree with that as well, had a nice bruised fist from punching seat in front of me last year, again he seems to be one grabbing more often than not now, but like everything else...games will show us

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Terrible news for Petracca, the curse continues 1 day after the 50th anniversary from when the curse first began.

How is Harmes going? Will Petracca's setback be his opportunity to crack it into the team assuming that vandenBerg takes Trengove's spot?

Is it safe to say that Frost won't play against Freo?

What is Garland's injury and how long will he be out for?

It looks like we may be a bit short down back if Frost and Garland are out will they push Pedersen back or will they give O.Mc a taste?

Garland's issue seems to be around the hip/lower back area, not sure, he is not very forthcoming

Think Frost just felt a bit of tightness, they are told to report anything, was told to stop, didn't seem that serious, but who knows

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Dawes two grabs occasionally, as long as the second grab secures the ball, there is no problem, or is there?

The problem I have with Dawes going for a mark and the reason it is always 2 or more grabs is he has both his palms facing the ball. Look at any decent mark ever and particularly Dunstall and Carey and they have their hands side on with thumbs at the back ready to grab it..


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The problem I have with Dawes going for a mark and the reason it is always 2 or more grabs is he has both his palms facing the ball. Look at any decent mark ever and particularly Dunstall and Carey and they have their hands side on with thumbs at the back ready to grab it..

That is "Marking 101"

Every kid who gets any direction in the skills of the game is told that at 10 years of age.

I was told that sixty years ago.

God help him if he thinks that is how you hold your hands

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That is "Marking 101"

Every kid who gets any direction in the skills of the game is told that at 10 years of age.

I was told that sixty years ago.

God help him if he thinks that is how you hold your hands

I agree he seems to have a strange/non classical way of holding his hands ready to mark, Brendan McCartney has been doing a lot of watching and talking about this during the sessions, heard him 'coach' Hogan and Gawn re the marking, he may get around to Dawes as well.........Don't forget Dawes is missing Round 1 and if Pedo gets the chance, he is not going to hand it back too easily this year

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Garland's issue seems to be around the hip/lower back area, not sure, he is not very forthcoming

Think Frost just felt a bit of tightness, they are told to report anything, was told to stop, didn't seem that serious, but who knows

I hope this is not a major problem.

After a poor 2014 which started with injury problems he needs a good year.

Out of contract at years end.

Another 2014 and his value will be low.

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I hope this is not a major problem.

After a poor 2014 which started with injury problems he needs a good year.

Out of contract at years end.

Another 2014 and his value will be low.

He didn't look particularly happy OD, so I didn't push it, agreed last thing he needs at the moment is an injury, had been tracking really well, looked to be back where he was a couple of years ago

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The problem I have with Dawes going for a mark and the reason it is always 2 or more grabs is he has both his palms facing the ball. Look at any decent mark ever and particularly Dunstall and Carey and they have their hands side on with thumbs at the back ready to grab it..

As one of my very early coaches told me, "the thumbs are the shock absorbers of marking a football" Not rocket science.

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As for the question on the rookies, Harmes hasn't been doing his chances of an upgrade any harm either, has done every session since Xmas break, has quite a bit of toe, also with the need for speed another forgotten player Jayden Hunt is nearly back to full fitness, participated in some of the drills on Monday, including catching and corralling Dean Kent, who is no slouch either

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Does Dawes have an eyesight problem? Serious question. The thing is that the marking problem seems so basic, yet Dawes has been in the system for a long time. Collingwood has the reputation for professionalism regarding player development/management and the Demons have more coaches than players. You would have thought that this was so obvious a weakness that this would have been sorted out or there we would have seen coaches working with him on this problem.

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Does Dawes have an eyesight problem? Serious question. The thing is that the marking problem seems so basic, yet Dawes has been in the system for a long time. Collingwood has the reputation for professionalism regarding player development/management and the Demons have more coaches than players. You would have thought that this was so obvious a weakness that this would have been sorted out or there we would have seen coaches working with him on this problem.

This is a personal opinion, think he tends to lead too fast sometimes and has to adjust at the last minute and doesn't get his hands right, notice in the drills they have been sending him long and having Hogan or Pedo as the lead up

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Does Dawes have an eyesight problem? Serious question. The thing is that the marking problem seems so basic, yet Dawes has been in the system for a long time. Collingwood has the reputation for professionalism regarding player development/management and the Demons have more coaches than players. You would have thought that this was so obvious a weakness that this would have been sorted out or there we would have seen coaches working with him on this problem.

I recall there being some sort of retina issue with him toward the end of his time at Collingwood. Not 100%, but thought he might have copped a finger (s) to the eye which did a little damage.

Don’t know what lasting impact there was.

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Does Dawes have an eyesight problem? Serious question. The thing is that the marking problem seems so basic, yet Dawes has been in the system for a long time. Collingwood has the reputation for professionalism regarding player development/management and the Demons have more coaches than players. You would have thought that this was so obvious a weakness that this would have been sorted out or there we would have seen coaches working with him on this problem.

Darren Bennett had wooden arms and hands but he did OK....

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Does Dawes have an eyesight problem? Serious question. The thing is that the marking problem seems so basic, yet Dawes has been in the system for a long time. Collingwood has the reputation for professionalism regarding player development/management and the Demons have more coaches than players. You would have thought that this was so obvious a weakness that this would have been sorted out or there we would have seen coaches working with him on this problem.

He had laser eye surgery one or two seasons before he left Collingwood (see link of an example article stating this). The funny thing is i remember watching him more around that time and i felt he was a lot more fumbly after the eye surgery (my subjective opinion based off nothing).

http://drrickwolfe.com.au/collingwood-player-chris-dawes-has-laser-eye-surgery/

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I recall there being some sort of retina issue with him toward the end of his time at Collingwood. Not 100%, but thought he might have copped a finger (s) to the eye which did a little damage.

Don’t know what lasting impact there was.

It could be a bit of everything we have just discussed, not brave enough to ask the big angry bear, although he seems to have even mellowed a bit, I think again if we can transfer the kicking skills from training to game day, he may have kicks down his throat and the two grabbing will be a thing of the past

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Does Dawes have an eyesight problem? Serious question. The thing is that the marking problem seems so basic, yet Dawes has been in the system for a long time. Collingwood has the reputation for professionalism regarding player development/management and the Demons have more coaches than players. You would have thought that this was so obvious a weakness that this would have been sorted out or there we would have seen coaches working with him on this problem.

I think it's his technique as mentioned earlier. He runs at the ball with flat palms facing the ball. Hogan and most decent forwards don't raise their hands till the last minute. Hogan really does clunk the ball in a vice like grip when it comes to him.

One of the final drills had an open forward line comprising of Dawes, Hogan, Pedo and Garlett and no defenders. The ball was moved from the backline and the forwards lead in different patterns, and whoever took the mark had a shot for goal. Garlett played as a high half forward and only touched it once. Pedo moved really well and grabbed everything. Hogan stood out with his mobility and presence. Dawes was either double grabbing them, or seemed to be too far under the ball which would have made it easy for a backman to spoil.

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Really good discussion

Will look more closely at 666 pics and see if there is any evidence there.

As others have said I hope the coaches are aware of these things and assume they also have access to far more sophisticated evidence than we have.

And that is certainly no offence to any of you guys who provide these great reports and vision.

I hope the coaches are aware of your standards as well and are propelled into being better than them.

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Drove by today at about 11 and Dawes was last man standing marking bullet overhead passes from point blank range from a trainer....just sayin.

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Drove by today at about 11 and Dawes was last man standing marking bullet overhead passes from point blank range from a trainer....just sayin.

Tuesday is skills day, so if he was doing that it is a good sign,

I counted four cameras on Monday, as well as coaches eyes, you can't hide a deficiency these days

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Really good discussion

Will look more closely at 666 pics and see if there is any evidence there.

As others have said I hope the coaches are aware of these things and assume they also have access to far more sophisticated evidence than we have.

And that is certainly no offence to any of you guys who provide these great reports and vision.

I hope the coaches are aware of your standards as well and are propelled into being better than them.

Dean Kent seems to just stand on his right peg, heard McCartney point this out

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