Despite much optimum internally among many Melbourne fans after what appears to have been a strong recruiting drive and a good preseason to date, we're still on the nose with those who fix the odds*:-

4.00 Hawthorn

4.25 Sydney Swans

5.50 Port Adelaide

9.00 Fremantle

13.00 North Melbourne

14.00 Geelong

23.00 Richmond

26.00 Adelaide, West Coast Eagles

31.00 Essendon, West Coast

34.00 Collingwood

51.00 Brisbane, Carlton

101.00 Greater Western Sydney

126.00 Western Bulldogs

251.00 Melbourne

501.00 St. Kilda

They also have the Suns favourite ($1.44) to beat the Dees ($2.70) in Round 1.

* sportsbet.com.au

Betting agencies seldom get these things wrong.

I think the Dees will be three spots higher but small amount of nit picking on my part.

Betting agencies seldom get these things wrong.

I think the Dees will be three spots higher but small amount of nit picking on my part.

It's a long way out from the premiership and, at this stage, their assessments of teams are necessarily based on most recent performances with only minor adjustments for changes in between time. The odds will change but if we're going to rise in the estimation of Sportsbet of anyone from the general public we need to put some performances on the board.

seems the bookies think essendon won't be hit, or hit very lightly

Betting agencies seldom get these things wrong.

I think the Dees will be three spots higher but small amount of nit picking on my part.

Lets have a look at the end of the season and see how wrong they got it 'old dee'.

Lets have a look at the end of the season and see how wrong they got it 'old dee'.

If they are 100% correct rjay we will al be very sad around here.

Fortunately they a bit off where the Dees are concerned.

The odds are for premiership.

Would you be silly enough to back them at any odds.

The odds are for premiership.

Would you be silly enough to back them at any odds.

Anyone who backs the MFC over the last four years has a death wise where money is concerned.

Send it to me I will put it to better use.

Anyone who backs the MFC over the last four years has a death wise where money is concerned.

Send it to me I will put it to better use.

I'll hold your bag while you take the bets.

MFC $251 to win the 2015 Flag

Yep

All looks about right except for Richmond at $23.00. It's like people are willing them to be good. They're not good.

All looks about right except for Richmond at $23.00. It's like people are willing them to be good. They're not good.

And backed themselves in for the year by drafting no one

"9th again...The Mighty Tigers finished 9th again..."

We are no chance of winning the premiership. They may as well have put our odds at $1,000,000.

This is going to be a year of growth, and if we perform really well and other teams struggle/suffer key injuries we can push for the 8. Scraping into finals would be a miracle and I'd be damn happy with that. Realistically I'd say we'll finish around 13th-14th. Definite improvement, but still a ways off.

And backed themselves in for the year by drafting no one

"9th again...The Mighty Tigers finished 9th again..."

Nonsense, with Taylor Hunt in their team they would have flogged Port in the first final.

Nonsense, with Taylor Hunt in their team they would have flogged Port in the first final.

Oh of course

And kicked with the breeze after winning the toss

I also think we should be at shorter odds than the Dogs with the loss of their senior players, but that's neither here nor there. Neither side are winning the flag this year.

Betting agencies seldom get these things wrong.

I think the Dees will be three spots higher but small amount of nit picking on my part.

Obviously you don't recall 2007 when we were installed as premiership favourite from the Victorian clubs at the beginning of the season..?

I'd love to know where they had Port placed over the last 2 preseasons, too.

Obviously you don't recall 2007 when we were installed as premiership favourite from the Victorian clubs at the beginning of the season..?

I'd love to know where they had Port placed over the last 2 preseasons, too.

I said "seldom" and you are correct 2007 is starting to be a faded memory

The last 6 years of crap take some getting my mind past.

Obviously you don't recall 2007 when we were installed as premiership favourite from the Victorian clubs at the beginning of the season..?

I'd love to know where they had Port placed over the last 2 preseasons, too.

2007....what's that

oh.....that

thanks.....not

i had just about erased that from my memory

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Excuse my ignorance but can we take a bet then sell it?

251.00 Melbourne

*Rubs hands together*

I'm gonna be rich! Rich, you hear!

Hehehehehe

10 to 1 to make the 8 is a bit light on too,,,

Excuse my ignorance but can we take a bet then sell it?

You would be the only one to take $250

You may see someone take $1000 if the bookies would lay it. Even then you would be throwing your money down the drain.

Gee, don't they read Saty's training reports!?

Excuse my ignorance but can we take a bet then sell it?

That's why betting exchanges (such as Betfair) exist. However, given your self-confessed "ignorance" (your word, not mine) I'd suggest that you'd best not go there.