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I think Scully will be a very good player but this is somewhat distorted by the overs GWS paid for him. Since they had to pay someone I don't think the overs paid came at any significant cost to GWS's list.

Hogan is yet to play a game for us but looks to be a very good player and the first genuine KPF prospect since Neitz.

I think in 5 years time both Melbourne amd GWS will look back and be happy with our respective players.

Given what GWS have outplayed on Scully, he is going to have to be Ablettesque to repay them. He isn't.

And it's a no brainer it's costing GWS. By paying Scully $$$$$$$$ they don't have that to pay others.

And it's likely as the rest of the list develops those players who are seen to contributing more to GWS than Scully will wonder why they are subsidising a lesser player.

MFC may well be happy with Hogan and/ or Toumpas in due course but I can't see how Scully will not cost GWS heaps over the course of the contract with providing the dividends on the investment.

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Maybe it is modern footy that makes it hard for these guys. In the past when offence was the go and doing the exciting stuff was the go it worked really well. But now 'two-way-running', defence, fitness, structures etc etc it just isn't enjoyable for them. So they end up going home. Sad trend for AFL footy.

You do realise this is a spectacularly racist post, I hope.

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You do realise this is a spectacularly racist post, I hope.

Oh give it a [censored] rest!

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That is autocol's opinion of Lucifer's Hero's opinion.

You are being the Anti-PC Coastguard of the PC Police of late...

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You do realise this is a spectacularly racist post, I hope.

My main point was that MFC were not the only team losing indigenous players wanting to go home - you conveniently eliminated this from my post which you quoted. I was backing up Dom's point about not enjoying his footy anymore and hypothesising why it may be so and losing such classy players is sad.

It is all very easy to throw accusations like yours around and it may say more about you as the reader than me as the writer. All I will say is that since I was a child I have been the target of much racial abuse and would never think of others this way.

DL's should stop and think that other posters come from all races and creeds before they start labelling them as 'racist'!!

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I just read todays AFL article where Dom says he didn't have the passion to play in the AFL any more and just wants to find something he's very passionate about.



It may well be the right decision for Dom, but made me wonder how much he, or other young people, think about the concept of just having a good paying job!


What % of workers are "very passionate" about their jobs?


Personally I've been lucky that way, plus gave up several great jobs, so I'm being, "do as I say, not as I did," here. But looking objectively (if he left for that reason) doesn't it seem a bit luxurious for Dom to give up a decent paying job to be unemployed wondering what to do?

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How do you know that? It was reported to be the case.

No it wasn't, it was 'reported' on Demonland, let's just say I watched him 'live' last week at training, he did not look 'unfit' and obviously did what was asked of him, good enough for you


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I just read todays AFL article where Dom says he didn't have the passion to play in the AFL any more and just wants to find something he's very passionate about.

It may well be the right decision for Dom, but made me wonder how much he, or other young people, think about the concept of just having a good paying job!

What % of workers are "very passionate" about their jobs?

Personally I've been lucky that way, plus gave up several great jobs, so I'm being, "do as I say, not as I did," here. But looking objectively (if he left for that reason) doesn't it seem a bit luxurious for Dom to give up a decent paying job to be unemployed wondering what to do?

He is doing himself a favour by trying to find a vocation he 'wants' to do, and he is doing his employer a favour by not letting this continue.

Everyone seems to be overlooking the fact that we have recruited a few other players that haven't been 'up' for the life of an AFL footy player, but they are happy to coast along and get delisted after a few years.

Here a boy says 'this isn't for me' and lets us know before we waste more time, and we are preoccupied with the general motives of football players of his race, rather than the mark of this individual making a good decision for himself and the club.

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He is doing himself a favour by trying to find a vocation he 'wants' to do, and he is doing his employer a favour by not letting this continue.

Everyone seems to be overlooking the fact that we have recruited a few other players that haven't been 'up' for the life of an AFL footy player, but they are happy to coast along and get delisted after a few years.

Here a boy says 'this isn't for me' and let's us know before we waste more time, and we are preoccupied with the general motives of football players of his race, rather than the mark of this individual making a good decision for himself and the club.

Well said rpfc, Rory Taggert springs to mind, talked the talked but couldn't walk the walk

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Just put this one down to (yet another) poor contract extension from Roos and co and move on.

I think it is more of a contract extension that ended poorly but I am not surely you will see the subtlety

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I don't know why you make a point about the blinking. I bet you weren't there at the draft on the day. There was sufficient consternation at the time that given what we knew about Wines....we overlooked him. And unless Toumpas turns it around significantly it will be another lost opportunity that haunts us.

Revisionism at it's very best....

Go back and read the Wines thread who most were gungho about and watch the change when it became apparent that Toumpas may fall to us. Given what everyone knew about Wines and Toumpas - according to expert opinions Toumpas was the more credentialled footballer. Please point to me one TAC watcher like Quayle or Footy journo's who talk to recruiters who rated Wines ahead of Toumpas.

(I am also now on record on my thoughts about "expert opinions" - they are guesses at best that consistently fall short)

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I just read todays AFL article where Dom says he didn't have the passion to play in the AFL any more and just wants to find something he's very passionate about.

It may well be the right decision for Dom, but made me wonder how much he, or other young people, think about the concept of just having a good paying job!

What % of workers are "very passionate" about their jobs?

Personally I've been lucky that way, plus gave up several great jobs, so I'm being, "do as I say, not as I did," here. But looking objectively (if he left for that reason) doesn't it seem a bit luxurious for Dom to give up a decent paying job to be unemployed wondering what to do?

Just for you...published in today's Australian Financial Review. The headline says it all: "Generation Y thinks work-life balance more important than cash"

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Generation "Y should I work so much if I don't have to?"

I don't understand this at all.

Are you suggesting people should work more than they have to? Is doing a job efficiently and effectively a bad thing?

Or do you subscribe to the older generation's view that one is not working "hard" unless they are putting in stupidly long hours?

Do the job and do it well, let your work speak for itself.

If Dom's heart isn't it, good on him for leaving to find something he can put some passion into.

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I don't understand this at all.

Are you suggesting people should work more than they have to? Is doing a job efficiently and effectively a bad thing?

Or do you subscribe to the older generation's view that one is not working "hard" unless they are putting in stupidly long hours?

Do the job and do it well, let your work speak for itself.

If Dom's heart isn't it, good on him for leaving to find something he can put some passion into.

Sometimes it's been further out than that Choke. I've seen people who believe that if you enjoy something you shouldn't be paid to do it at all.

Being grateful Dom showed the character to quit at the best time for us, it probably wasn't the best time for me to have posted the question of how important passion for a job is Vs good pay Vs hard work, but I did. I always chose what I had more passion for, but thought most people went more for the money(?) so was curious Dom gave up something most would think of as a fun, good paying, although very hard working job. I suspect some would have hung around for the cheque, but I'm glad he didn't and wish him well.

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There was sufficient consternation at the time that given what we knew about Wines....we overlooked him.

How many phantom or mock drafts from the period had Wines ahead of Toumpas? Any at all?

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How many phantom or mock drafts from the period had Wines ahead of Toumpas? Any at all?

Only goes to the idea that groupthink was wrong. Some individuals preferred Wines

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... doesn't it seem a bit luxurious for Dom to give up a decent paying job to be unemployed wondering what to do?

He's not wondering what to do. I think that's the point.

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No it wasn't, it was 'reported' on Demonland, let's just say I watched him 'live' last week at training, he did not look 'unfit' and obviously did what was asked of him, good enough for you

Nope not at all If he was ready why did the HS mention that he wasnt? Anyway gone and forgotten already.

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How many phantom or mock drafts from the period had Wines ahead of Toumpas? Any at all?

Exactly none.

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He's not wondering what to do. I think that's the point.

Oh does he have something specific he really wants to do? I must have read the article so quickly I missed that. I hope he does have, and good luck to him with it.

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Exactly none.

yeah...bit like the 'experts' putting tips in the paper about the nags .

Funny how FEW get it right

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Well said rpfc, Rory Taggert springs to mind, talked the talked but couldn't walk the walk

Taggert, Blease, Strauss.......................for starters.

Many would like to be an AFL footballer but some don't want to enough.

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I don't understand this at all.

Are you suggesting people should work more than they have to? Is doing a job efficiently and effectively a bad thing?

Or do you subscribe to the older generation's view that one is not working "hard" unless they are putting in stupidly long hours?

Do the job and do it well, let your work speak for itself.

If Dom's heart isn't it, good on him for leaving to find something he can put some passion into.

I'm a Generation Y, and I proudly subscribe to the above theory.

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