beelzebub 23,392 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 Many a journo is simply foraging for something to bundle as a story. makes it look like they are earning their pay. Take much with many grains of salt !!
Jesse Christ 2,884 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 Why you need evidence that the three way trade with Collingwood was made up- they didn't even know Beams was leaving until the final hour, now all of a sudden there's a three club trade organised? I think a lot of ppl forget there are other supporter forums out there with even more [censored] up supporters posting, and conveniently all their good oil is advantageous to them.
InVINCEable 358 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 Just when you thought Jon Ralph couldn't become more of a [censored]....
ignition. 1,478 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 Jon Ralph wrote that article. The same Jon Ralph who said Goodwin was 100% going to be Adelaide's next coach at the exact time that we announced he would be ours. He forms his opinion on what could happen and then prints it. It got as much weight as me saying that Dangerfield is a demon. Zero. Jon Ralph and other Journo's take punts on stories, like us here. We assume that because we have low picks in the draft we can get Dangerfield and that is correct if he chooses to come to us we have the tools to execute the trade. Ralph is doing the same if Danger goes and Collingwood get pick 4 hey are in a position to get the deal done. It is really a process of elimination, these clubs have no chance these clubs do and it looks to me that us and one or two others have the capacity to get the deal done. Whether Dangerfield leaves who knows I would be extremely surprised if he does. With that said Jon Ralph is one of the only journos that seems to support us, particularly when there was talk around the priority pick. He is one journo I'm not going to nick pick or attack.
Straight Sets Simon 23,113 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 I'd love to know if Chook in Perth has any more information.
ChaserJ 5,192 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 From Barrett's 'sliding doors' article on AFL.com: If: Then: Peter Jackson gave up... ...he wouldn't have landed Paul Roos this time last year. Give him 12 months and operation Get Danger could pay off.
What 18,810 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 From Barrett's 'sliding doors' article on AFL.com: If: Then: Peter Jackson gave up... ...he wouldn't have landed Paul Roos this time last year. Give him 12 months and operation Get Danger could pay off. its PJ, Ill give him 2 weeks and it will be done
ManDee 7,396 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 Just got off the phone from my Adelaide contact. Nothing to report. What does that mean? Are they battening down the hatches or are they all in the bunker? Nothing to report! Edit: Goodwin was a good get. Very well liked and respected. They feel that they missed the boat there.
pitchfork 181 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 From Barrett's 'sliding doors' article on AFL.com: If: Then: Peter Jackson gave up... ...he wouldn't have landed Paul Roos this time last year. Give him 12 months and operation Get Danger could pay off. Who would have thought a column could be less intelligent and take less time to write than Robbo's 'Likes and Dislikes'.
Jesse Christ 2,884 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 The longer they are withougt a coach the better I feel. Uncertainty vs Roos.
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 Melbourne can offer a mil plus a year and easily has the best trade to offer This is about convincing danger we are going to play finals sooner rather than later
DeeSpencer 26,708 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 Who would have thought a column could be less intelligent and take less time to write than Robbo's 'Likes and Dislikes'. Hey! Robbo's likes and dislikes is his most intelligent column! He uses other peoples tweets to make it intelligent and doesn't have to do any work. It's the herald suns version of letters to the editor.
SaberFang 7,151 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 Rather amusing this mentality amongst players that there's not much point coming to us because we aren't pushing for finals. If they talked to each other and agreed to go there together then we'd be far more successful, but nobody wants to be the first. Bit like when you try to convince friends to go out on the weekend, and everyone waits to see who else is going out before confirming, and you end up going around in circles.
Bluey's Dad 3,419 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 Rather amusing this mentality amongst players that there's not much point coming to us because we aren't pushing for finals. If they talked to each other and agreed to go there together then we'd be far more successful, but nobody wants to be the first. Bit like when you try to convince friends to go out on the weekend, and everyone waits to see who else is going out before confirming, and you end up going around in circles. We have Vince and Goodwin. Join the party, Danger!
What 18,810 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 We would easily have enough salary cap space to sign all three of Dangerfield, Sloane and Tex
McQueen 17,867 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 Melbourne can offer a mil plus a year and easily has the best trade to offer This is about convincing danger we are going to play finals sooner rather than later Hope Dangerfield and other A graders we might be targeting can look past the win/loss ratio and more at the direction the club is heading in, and what impact they can have in the transformation. Sadly it's just looking like the AFL & AFLPA has created a mentality that drives players to hunt immediate success when they're looking at moving.
beelzebub 23,392 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 Lets not sell Roos and PJ short just yet. Official Silly Season's yet to start:)
Pennant St Dee 13,462 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 We would easily have enough salary cap space to sign all three of Dangerfield, Sloane and Tex Yep that will work when we go looking for the space when Hogan , Tyson and other developing players need to be renewed and other clubs come knocking
DeeSpencer 26,708 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 Hope Dangerfield and other A graders we might be targeting can look past the win/loss ratio and more at the direction the club is heading in, and what impact they can have in the transformation. Sadly it's just looking like the AFL & AFLPA has created a mentality that drives players to hunt immediate success when they're looking at moving. Part of me hopes that more players (especially good players at big clubs) see Frawley end up with a fat pay day and think that's worth a shot for them. Then more players actually start threatening free agency if they don't get big money and eventually the salary cap actually starts to impede teams. Hawthorn and Sydney have 12 players as good as our best 3. The salary cap shouldn't allow that to happen. Of course the risk is we have to pay ever more for guys to join or stay with us but it at least puts us in with a chance. Sydney had to sell Everitt, White and Mumford to fit Franklin in. That should be how it should work for whoever gets Frawley. Unfortunately it seems several clubs can fit him in no troubles. And the swans got valuable draft picks when traded guys out to get Franklin in. Hopefully in the future it works that if you get a free agent in someone can raid your players.
Straight Sets Simon 23,113 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 Part of me hopes that more players (especially good players at big clubs) see Frawley end up with a fat pay day and think that's worth a shot for them. Then more players actually start threatening free agency if they don't get big money and eventually the salary cap actually starts to impede teams. Hawthorn and Sydney have 12 players as good as our best 3. The salary cap shouldn't allow that to happen. We could have that many good players if we drafted better.
DeeSpencer 26,708 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 We could have that many good players if we drafted better. You can say that for almost any club. Or at least if you draft the lights out you can get 6-8 very good players and then make a trade for a couple keen to join you, that's what Port have done with Polec and soon Ryder. Poor old Adelaide drafted a bunch of guns then saw half of them leave. It's just not how the comp should work that you have to drop down the ladder, stockpile gun players and then get all the top ups. You should get some good players down the bottom and then have a mixture of players coming and going when you are further up the ladder. Hodge, Mitchell, Lewis, Burgoyne, Lake, Rioli, Gunston, Breust, Birchall, Gibson, Roughy, Smith, Hill that's too much talent for the same salary cap as what we pay our mugs.
Chook in Perth 2,109 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 I'd love to know if Chook in Perth has any more information. Sorry brother, my info has dried up in last few days. Nothing new to report.
Demoneyes 562 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 Jon Ralph and other Journo's take punts on stories, like us here. We assume that because we have low picks in the draft we can get Dangerfield and that is correct if he chooses to come to us we have the tools to execute the trade. Ralph is doing the same if Danger goes and Collingwood get pick 4 hey are in a position to get the deal done. It is really a process of elimination, these clubs have no chance these clubs do and it looks to me that us and one or two others have the capacity to get the deal done. Whether Dangerfield leaves who knows I would be extremely surprised if he does. A guy posted evidence that he made up the three way collingwood and beams dangerfield trade idea. In regards to the 2 posts above. I played golf today with a 'local' newspaper guy today. He told me verbatim that many of 'us' troll websites etc for rumours and go with the ones that seem to have the most 'credibilty'. Maybe we here at D'land and others at B'footy etc are starting this crap and then just feeding it back to ourselves??????
Curry & Beer 5,444 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 there's also the possibility that clubs and managers deliberately put false stuff out there for their own strategic reasons
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