OK, before I start this thread and open it up to the Loserville comments like "Who cares" and "In: Flower, Lyon and Schwarz" or "Out: Everyone", I thought I'd make a few actual comments about the selection.

The first is that PR has a difficult decision to make about Jack Watts this week and next week. He's spent all year defending him in the media and he's tried him up on the wing so that he can get some easy touches and hope the pressure goes off him, but even PR must have been watching his lack of intensity and willingness to chase that proved so costly against a bunch of boys on Sunday.

So can he now forsake him at this late stage in the season? My guess is that PR will again remain faithful and there will only be a few changes.

The same principles apply a bit to a number of players who were quiet on Sunday - eg: Frawley, Dawes, Garland. PR has shown great loyalty to his senior group - how can he wield the axe now and if he does, is it a great message going into the off-season? Some might argue that it is the perfect message - it would give them a reminder that their spots are on the line so that they work harder in the summer.

Grimes is obviously injured and is one out.

Bail is a must for Perth because he runs all day and Pedersen showed great character in magoos and also must come back in - could he be a surprise tagging match-up for Nic Nat?

The two easy outs for Roosy (no damage to his senior harmony) are Dom Barry (glad he's got a few games now though) and Matt Jones (he was meant to step up after being axed and he has gone more back into his shell). Riley could be on shakey ground this week as well.

I would love to see Salem play down back - I've been banging on about how we are the only club without a left footer in our back half for a few weeks now and he has courage (just ask Davis) and tackles like a backman should. It would be nice to see him getting a few cheap kicks down there and with Grimes out, there's a spot for him. I'd also like to see Garland up forward again because he is not providing anything down back except spoils.

So for me it's:

Out: Grimes (inj), Barry, M.Jones and maybe Riley.

In: Pedersen, Bail, JKH and maybe Tapscott/McKenzie.

Team

B: Jetta (Cripps or Le Cras if he plays) Frawley (Kennedy) Dunn (McGovern)

HB: Howe McDonald (Darling) Salem

C: Bail Tyson Cross

HF: Garland Dawes Viney

F: JKH (only decent crumber we have) Gawn Kent

Ru: Jamar Vince N.Jones

Int: Pedersen, Michie, Riley

Sub: Watts (I've been banging on about this also for weeks. It's the one way Roosy can drop him without a media stir being created and he may come on for a quarter and play with actual intensity.)

I am struggling to care Deespicable

Play Strauss. Seriously. He can kick, which places him above 80% of those who took the field yesterday.

If defensive accountability is the issue, he will be in good company.

100%DE last week wasn't it?

Play him. Roll the dice. Nothing to lose.

thinking bout putting my life savings on west coast. might make 50 bucks.

thinking bout putting my life savings on west coast. might make 50 bucks.

You must have a lot of life savings. I'm guessing about $5 million. Safe bet though.

Play Strauss. Seriously. He can kick, which places him above 80% of those who took the field yesterday.

If defensive accountability is the issue, he will be in good company.

100%DE last week wasn't it?

Play him. Roll the dice. Nothing to lose.

I agree how could he possibly worse than Grimes, Garland, M Jones or Barry

Biggest change for me, would be for Roos to just free them up and say go for goal at every opportunity and don't kick or handball backwards. It couldn't be worse.

Biggest change for me, would be for Roos to just free them up and say go for goal at every opportunity and don't kick or handball backwards. It couldn't be worse.

My mate who I go with most weeks said yesterday that he thought that they hand pass so quickly so they wont have the ball when things go wrong.

Now while that is BS it sure looked like it yesterday.

I agree how could he possibly worse than Grimes, Garland, M Jones or Barry

He couldn't possibly be.

We have a very good kick and decisionmaker who can't get a game. Don't tell me he's less deserving than the blokes who collected their pay cheques yesterday.

It's highly unlikely but I really see it as a nothing to lose situation now.

He couldn't possibly be.

We have a very good kick and decisionmaker who can't get a game. Don't tell me he's less deserving than the blokes who collected their pay cheques yesterday.

It's highly unlikely but I really see it as a nothing to lose situation now.

I never thought I would ever say this P-man But about ten yesterday make Bail and McKenzie look like Champions.

I wonder when Roos is going to make the change that has dared not spoken its

name all season? Namely dropping Frawley. Who cares if Kennedy kicks a dozen and we only get 3 or four goals. Small humiliations compared to what we have been through so far and just as likely to happen with Frawley playing. Time to see a ruthless excision rather than the usual juggling in and out of the usual suspects every other week.

Edited August 18, 201410 yr by america de cali

Roos is a fence sitter, hasn't made a statement at selection all year. he'll do the usual Barry Riley Jones out. bla bla

I wonder when Roos is going to make the change that has dared not spoken its

name all season? Namely dropping Frawley. Who cares if Kennedy kicks a dozen and we only get 3 or four goals. Small humiliations compared to what we have been through so far and just as likely to happen with Frawley playing. Time to see a ruthless excision rather than the usual juggling in and out of the usual suspects every other week.

I find it very difficult to believe that Fitzpatrick, or Pedersen could achieve less or look less disinterested.

Play them, Frawley left mentally weeks ago.

Roos is a fence sitter, hasn't made a statement at selection all year. he'll do the usual Barry Riley Jones out. bla bla

I know how he feels, I have a member of staff that is lazy, disinterested and mistake prone. I have been looking for a replacement for 8 months. No suitable applicant, so lazy still has a job. The day a better prospect pops up lazy gets the chop.

I wonder when Roos is going to make the change that has dared not spoken its

name all season? Namely dropping Frawley. Who cares if Kennedy kicks a dozen and we only get 3 or four goals. Small humiliations compared to what we have been through so far and just as likely to happen with Frawley playing. Time to see a ruthless excision rather than the usual juggling in and out of the usual suspects every other week.

Cant drop him, may scare off potential suitors.

The reason Strauss doesn't get a game is that he is no good. He can't play well as VFL level consistently. The guys that get into the AFL side play well for Casey so therefore anyone playing yesterday is way better then Strauss - even though he 'can kick'. He has no awareness and can't defend. So while people say we have nothing to lose, I say we have nothing to gain in playing him.

I'd prefer to see someone like Clisby who showed something last year but he is also struggling at Casey.

I would not like to see Hogan come in as some sort of saviour this week. If he gets a kick for Casey this weekend, then maybe bring him in for the last round. Might cheer us fans up a bit

Biggest change for me, would be for Roos to just free them up and say go for goal at every opportunity and don't kick or handball backwards. It couldn't be worse.

Think he may do that for the last 2 games.

Just go out and play open footy and show your skills in a shootout.

Gives blokes who are on the verge a chance to show off before career ending decisions by the footy department.

"No awareness and can't defend"

Again, that describes the bulk of the those who played yesterday.

Blease and Tapscott got a chance based on not alot more. I'd like to see him out there, but that's just me and I acknowledge it almost certainly won't happen now.

My mate who I go with most weeks said yesterday that he thought that they hand pass so quickly so they wont have the ball when things go wrong.

Now while that is BS it sure looked like it yesterday.

It's not [censored].

They look to be literally handballing off responsibility to someone else.

They are losers.

My mate who I go with most weeks said yesterday that he thought that they hand pass so quickly so they wont have the ball when things go wrong.

Now while that is BS it sure looked like it yesterday.

It actually not BS old dee seen it many times, it's players going into self preservation mode playing for their futures and not wanting to be the one making the mistake.

In - Will to compete by all 22 and at the very least break even with their direct opponent

Outs - My 7 year old has hung in and hasn't followed his older brother to another club. My boy is probably the only reason I am going this Saturday because he wants to see the Dees but he is wavering a bit and now supporting second sides (Freo because of his mates and Hawthorn because they are his teams colours). I believe a shocking performance by our boys on Saturday and there goes another young fan.

Cant drop him, may scare off potential suitors.

It has been my opinion that he is already long gone and that waiting suitors are just a myth. If not so and he does get passed over we should just delist him anyway for being such a destabilising and selfish prique.

I wonder when Roos is going to make the change that has dared not spoken its

name all season? Namely dropping Frawley. Who cares if Kennedy kicks a dozen and we only get 3 or four goals. Small humiliations compared to what we have been through so far and just as likely to happen with Frawley playing. Time to see a ruthless excision rather than the usual juggling in and out of the usual suspects every other week.

Maybe he could play Frawley in his best position as a good defender and not as a mediocre Brad Miller-clone forward.

I am very tired and have ceased to care :-(

Hasnt Strauss been one of the better players at Casey? Well the last month or so. He had 27 disposals against the Dogs. Plus Grimes may come out of the team due to injury. Otherwise play Barry of half back.

In: Strauss, Pederson

Out: Grimes (inj), Frawley

I am very tired and have ceased to care :-(

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