Good tactic not to talk. In all honesty what could he say that hasn't been said. He's marked the cards of who's to go so no point in flogging a dead horse.

Silence can be golden.

A very poignant admission that he did not speak to the players after the match because "the players have heard enough negatives and I had nothing positive to say". He looked to be in control of himself but absolutely seething underneath. He now knows that too many of the players can't kick, mark and handpass and after almost a year of his leadership a lot of them have not improved at all. I just cannot see what can be done.

He has never been to a Casey Game. I have seen other AFL coaches (e.g. Buckley, McCartney, Thompson) at their reserves games. Apparently relies on down the ground video.

My take from the presser is that its not the coaching but the execution of the game plan. Oh and the skills. Isn't the improvement of skills the coaches (not just Roos) role?

He did say to the effect that the players can perform the skills at training. Can't do it in a game.

As my mum would say "if u don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all".

I understand what you are saying but I also think that there are moments that can be seized to advantage. Along the lines of 'if there was a turning point it was when the coach brought us in after the GWS loss and spoke to us about...' There's a movie right there unless it ends in '..retiring'.

He has never been to a Casey Game. I have seen other AFL coaches (e.g. Buckley, McCartney, Thompson) at their reserves games. Apparently relies on down the ground video.

My take from the presser is that its not the coaching but the execution of the game plan. Oh and the skills. Isn't the improvement of skills the coaches (not just Roos) role?

U can lead a horse to water but cant make the dam thing drink!

I understand what you are saying but I also think that there are moments that can be seized to advantage. Along the lines of 'if there was a turning point it was when the coach brought us in after the GWS loss and spoke to us about...' There's a movie right there unless it ends in '..retiring'.

IMO the players have heard it all before and seems to be going in one ear and out the other.

Roos is trying something different and what ever he wants to say he can say it in the review tomorrow.

Its not going to make any difference IMO.

Roos should have spoken(yelled) at playing group after game, Let them know exactly what is acceptable and what is not.

Not speaking to the group was a sign of weakness from the coach,

Roos should have spoken(yelled) at playing group after game, Let them know exactly what is acceptable and what is not.

Not speaking to the group was a sign of weakness from the coach,

Couldn't disagree more.

Roos should have spoken(yelled) at playing group after game, Let them know exactly what is acceptable and what is not.

Not speaking to the group was a sign of weakness from the coach,

Do you think Nathan Jones needs talking to? Do you think Matt Jones deserves talking to? One will be here next year. The other won't. It's as simple as that.

Let them know exactly what is acceptable and what is not.

They already know what's acceptable and what's not, yet they still delivered what they did today. That's the point.

Roos should have spoken(yelled) at playing group after game, Let them know exactly what is acceptable and what is not.

Not speaking to the group was a sign of weakness from the coach,

If you keep doing the same things you will get the same result...

I'm not talking about yelling. I'm talking about heart to heart stuff.

IMO the players have heard it all before and seems to be going in one ear and out the other.

Roos is trying something different and what ever he wants to say he can say it in the review tomorrow.

Its not going to make any difference IMO.

There's nothing to review,ask dawes,frawley why did you give up, jogging chases, 1 arm tackles,arms half raised smothers,great leadership

Words are useless now. Actions are all that count.

So he doesn't address the negatives, just praises the positives?

Do you think Nathan Jones needs talking to? Do you think Matt Jones deserves talking to? One will be here next year. The other won't. It's as simple as that.

Matt Jones has 2 years remaining on his contract. I kid you not.

Matt Jones has 2 years remaining on his contract. I kid you not.

thats bad. who the [censored] gave him that contract!

Matt Jones has 2 years remaining on his contract. I kid you not.

You've got to be joking. No wonder we're in the shite. It always comes back to list management.

He did say to the effect that the players can perform the skills at training. Can't do it in a game.

Yes he did and I do not buy it for one minute. Training is often conducted under match condition simulations. If they are able to deliver on the track and not on the day then the simulations do not go hard enough which is a coaching responsibility. I am a firm believer that you play like you train. Have not yet been to training but think this week could be a good time to go now that I am a man of leisure.

There's nothing to review,ask dawes,frawley why did you give up, jogging chases, 1 arm tackles,arms half raised smothers,great leadership

Do MFC use that One Team stuff. Don't know what its called but the players speak openly and honestly to each other, not about the last game but the season performance or training performance? It would seem that it might be a good idea. I agree with who ever said it that the players would have heard it all before, as recently as after the Brisbane game where the match review went for two days. Few home truths would not hurt.

Matt Jones has 2 years remaining on his contract. I kid you not.

Haha players and agents must look to us as a money pit - 3 year contracts handed out to whoevers walking past, Matt Jones, Jodie McKenzie, Jamar, Pederson (although admittedly he's been ok this year)

Yes he did and I do not buy it for one minute. Training is often conducted under match condition simulations. If they are able to deliver on the track and not on the day then the simulations do not go hard enough which is a coaching responsibility. I am a firm believer that you play like you train. Have not yet been to training but think this week could be a good time to go now that I am a man of leisure.

but at training they are only playing against their own insipid weak players so is not much of a test. They have shown their mettle time and time again over the past few years. Something is seriously wrong if we can take good coaches and ruin them, take top draft picks and ruin them.

What can Roos do? Dawes cannot take a mark or hit a target: Viney continually ducks his head, predictably turns on his left side and cannot hit a target with a handball; Garland continually butchers the ball to give a few examples of the efforts of individuals who we want to lead us forward. We all know who won't be there next year but at the moment it is the so called good players who are letting us down. The list turnover cannot all be done in 1 year it will take 2-3 seasons to clear out the deadwood

What can Roos do? Dawes cannot take a mark or hit a target: Viney continually ducks his head, predictably turns on his left side and cannot hit a target with a handball; Garland continually butchers the ball to give a few examples of the efforts of individuals who we want to lead us forward. We all know who won't be there next year but at the moment it is the so called good players who are letting us down. The list turnover cannot all be done in 1 year it will take 2-3 seasons to clear out the deadwood

But by season 3 half the new list will have turned into dead wood and on it goes, such is the melbourne way

What can Roos do? Dawes cannot take a mark or hit a target: Viney continually ducks his head, predictably turns on his left side and cannot hit a target with a handball; Garland continually butchers the ball to give a few examples of the efforts of individuals who we want to lead us forward. We all know who won't be there next year but at the moment it is the so called good players who are letting us down. The list turnover cannot all be done in 1 year it will take 2-3 seasons to clear out the deadwood

I agree but what use is it if Roos just pisses off after 2016 and we have to start over anyway?