N. Jones - usual work rate

Grimes - poor decision making

Salem - out of depth

Watts - classy but frustrating

Dawes - limited but useful

Viney - couldn't break free

Frawley - some cheap possessions

Tyson - looked very tired

McKenzie - failed to inspire

Dunn - not a force

Kent - heroics long forgotten

Cross - tried but limited

Garland - repeatedly poor decisions

McDonald - surprisingly well beaten

Riley - few redeeming skills

Howe - limited effective involvements

Jamar - tapwork, little else

Bail - milestone to forget

M.Jones - tried but irrelevant

Jetta - had little impact

Vince - prolific and impressive

Pedersen - can be forgiven

Bernie: Nothing but class

Everyone else: Didn't turn up

agree ... we were very poor. Third quarter stretch was frustrating.

Jones - not so clean

Grimes - Killed by Boomer

Salem - Needs a rest

Watts - Getting there slowly

Dawes - Not a threat

Viney - Looked super stuffed

Frawley - Our fool's gold

Tyson - Cheap possies late

McKenzie - Will be rested

Dunn - Our ultimate swingman

Kent - Not great overhead

Cross - Killed em again

Garland - I don't know

McDonald - Dam wall broke

Riley - Must show more

Howe - Sort of OK

Jamar - Tap ruck only?

Bail - Not really there

M.Jones - Needs a point-of-difference

Jetta - Old Neville again

Brad Scott - Coached absolutely brilliantly

North Melbourne - Spare man victory

North Melbourne - Spread too well

North Melbourne - Gut run options

Melbourne - Need line breakers

Thought Cross was excellent and Watts pretty good. Jettas tackling was good. Vince obviously BOG.

Really disappointed with Grimes and Garland especially as leaders.

We stank it

Thought Cross was excellent and Watts pretty good. Jettas tackling was good. Vince obviously BOG.

Really disappointed with Grimes and Garland especially as leaders.

You are spot on. Enough said.

Thought Cross was excellent and Watts pretty good. Jettas tackling was good. Vince obviously BOG.

Really disappointed with Grimes and Garland especially as leaders.

Grimes very poor, Garland Ditto, Jordy gee, three year deal for a bloke with very limited skills (Previous Brains trust/ admin take a bow!) Frawley cannot kick!! Full stop. At this stage I couldn't care less if Frawley goes or stays!!

Watts, pure class, some very good improvements I thought!

Give Cross another two years, Bernie Vince another extension!

Garland was great in 2013 but in the years before that was pretty bog-ordinary. The Garland of 2014 has played like the old model. Will forgive him due to lack of preparation but let's hope he wasn't just a one-season wonder.

Vince and Cross were clearly the best two Demons out there today (Vince probably BOG). Both ring-ins from other clubs. Shows the importance of bringing more in at the end of the year, as great as Tyson and Viney have been, we saw today what can happen when your kids start to tire.

Vince and Cross were clearly the best two Demons out there today (Vince probably BOG). Both ring-ins from other clubs. Shows the importance of bringing more in at the end of the year, as great as Tyson and Viney have been, we saw today what can happen when your kids start to tire.

yes yes and yes.

Cross was fantastic in tight as usual and has shown the younger inside mids what it takes to present yourself continually.

Vince displayed every bit of class he was recruited for.

I thought Watts was pretty solid

Jetta had an AA month, but Nahas had 4 scoring shots in the first 20 minutes of the game. He played 2 steps off him, something he hadn't done all year and it showed.

His impressive tackling came from being led to the ball.

Hopefully a better game next week.

A game played between two sides at VERY different stages of their development.

One side that's been a tight unit, practicing a disciplined, attacking game plan that will stand up in finals for the last 3 - 4 years.

Another that's still learning how to defend, how/when to attack, who will play what roles, rebuilding from the ground up.

We need to remember 2 key things:

1. North pummelled largely the same playing group less than 12 months ago.
2. When 'on' the Roos have been able to get hold of some VERY capable sides this year, including the Swans, by a similar margin, at the SCG.

Let's chalk this up to a learning experience and turn our attention to a very winnable game next week.

Jetta had an AA month, but Nahas had 4 scoring shots in the first 20 minutes of the game. He played 2 steps off him, something he hadn't done all year and it showed.

His impressive tackling came from being led to the ball.

Hopefully a better game next week.

Nev played two steps off him because Nahas can turn on a sixpence, the early goals happened because the ball came unhindered from the middle and Norths had their forward structure working perfectly, once we sorted that out the service stopped, until the 3rd qtr, when it fell to bits again as fatigue set in and then we fixed it up in the 4th again

Grimes very poor, Garland Ditto, Jordy gee, three year deal for a bloke with very limited skills (Previous Brains trust/ admin take a bow!) Frawley cannot kick!! Full stop. At this stage I couldn't care less if Frawley goes or stays!!

Watts, pure class, some very good improvements I thought!

Give Cross another two years, Bernie Vince another extension!

Totally agree on "FrawDly"

Nev played two steps off him because Nahas can turn on a sixpence, the early goals happened because the ball came unhindered from the middle and Norths had their forward structure working perfectly, once we sorted that out the service stopped, until the 3rd qtr, when it fell to bits again as fatigue set in and then we fixed it up in the 4th again

Robin Nahas!! Please, you're treating him like he's Jimmy Krakouer. The bloke got delisted by Richmond for christ sake.

He didn't give Wingard 2 steps or Dalhaus when he towelled them up and they're far better players than Robin the joker.

He played 4 good games in a row, and let himself down this week and got thoroughly beaten.

I know Neville is a good footballer and trust him to rectify it next week which I'm sure he will... But he played poorly this week.

Jetta had an AA month, but Nahas had 4 scoring shots in the first 20 minutes of the game. He played 2 steps off him, something he hadn't done all year and it showed.

His impressive tackling came from being led to the ball.

Hopefully a better game next week.

Agree but at least when he tackles they stick - and hurt.

Jetta had an AA month, but Nahas had 4 scoring shots in the first 20 minutes of the game. He played 2 steps off him, something he hadn't done all year and it showed.

His impressive tackling came from being led to the ball.

Hopefully a better game next week.

Agree but at least when he tackles they stick - and hurt.

Robin Nahas!! Please, you're treating him like he's Jimmy Krakouer. The bloke got delisted by Richmond for christ sake.

He didn't give Wingard 2 steps or Dalhaus when he towelled them up and they're far better players than Robin the joker.

He played 4 good games in a row, and let himself down this week and got thoroughly beaten.

I know Neville is a good footballer and trust him to rectify it next week which I'm sure he will... But he played poorly this week.

No, you are being silly, Nahas is not that good, and I never said that, I said he can turn on a sixpence both ways, so you stay off him a bit and watch the movement, but if the ball is coming in unhindered and you have to stay behind your man, you are stuffed.

Nahas is getting games with North, makes a good foil for the talls and Thomas that's why the structure worked once North got the ball on the outside, we did fix it up eventually, you did watch the game?

Against both Port and Adelaide we controlled the footy coming in, lot easier for defenders to control their men

Grimes: How about no

No, you are being silly, Nahas is not that good, and I never said that, I said he can turn on a sixpence both ways, so you stay off him a bit and watch the movement, but if the ball is coming in unhindered and you have to stay behind your man, you are stuffed.

Nahas is getting games with North, makes a good foil for the talls and Thomas that's why the structure worked once North got the ball on the outside, we did fix it up eventually, you did watch the game?

Against both Port and Adelaide we controlled the footy coming in, lot easier for defenders to control their men

Sorry 'Sat', you don't stay off him at all. You need to put body on him and not let him get to the ball, his biggest weakness is he doesn't have the strength to effect a contest. It's when he has ball in hand that he's a problem. He can turn on as many sixpences as he likes if he doesn't have the ball.

I do agree that not enough pressure was on from up the ground and North were able to pick out targets at will, but Nev gave him too much space early and didn't pay enough respect. He didn't give Wingard or Betts an inch.

Sorry 'Sat', you don't stay off him at all. You need to put body on him and not let him get to the ball, his biggest weakness is he doesn't have the strength to effect a contest. It's when he has ball in hand that he's a problem. He can turn on as many sixpences as he likes if he doesn't have the ball.

I do agree that not enough pressure was on from up the ground and North were able to pick out targets at will, but Nev gave him too much space early and didn't pay enough respect. He didn't give Wingard or Betts an inch.

Obvously watching different games, so you prefer holding free kicks, you can't put body on if he has acres of space to run into, I have spoken to most of the defence what they have actually enjoyed this year has been the pressure down the ground and the midfield and forwards getting back to plug holes, giving them to opportunity to work as a team, this is exactly what went wrong yesterday, listen to what Roos, Vince and Watts said, we had 22 individuals. For Nahas first goal he came from the other side of the 50 unhindered

Nev played two steps off him because Nahas can turn on a sixpence, the early goals happened because the ball came unhindered from the middle and Norths had their forward structure working perfectly, once we sorted that out the service stopped, until the 3rd qtr, when it fell to bits again as fatigue set in and then we fixed it up in the 4th again

Jetta has been great in recent weeks but your blind love for him is staggering. He didn't respect Nahas as he should have and was soundly beaten by him (when on the ground).

It wasn't a horrible game from Nev, he just dropped a notch. I'd expect him back to his best next week.

Jetta has been great in recent weeks but your blind love for him is staggering. He didn't respect Nahas as he should have and was soundly beaten by him (when on the ground).

It wasn't a horrible game from Nev, he just dropped a notch. I'd expect him back to his best next week.

Jetta has been great in recent weeks but your blind love for him is staggering. He didn't respect Nahas as he should have and was soundly beaten by him (when on the ground).

It wasn't a horrible game from Nev, he just dropped a notch. I'd expect him back to his best next week.

Sorry - I am with Saty on this - and had sympathy for all the backs last night who were beaten on the lead. What let us down yesterday was the ease that the ball came into their forward line. I don't care if it is Nahas or Peter Daicos - when the ball comes into the forward line so easily with no -one filling the hole - you are going to get cleaned up on the lead providing the kick comes in cleanly which it did.

I think one of the defenders mentioned in an interview previously said that the defense had been helped by the pressure the mids put on the balling coming into their defensive zone - that didnt happen for periods yesterday.