I'm tipping the filth would take Brayshaw with five before we could use six if that was the idea.

I'm tipping the filth would take Brayshaw with five before we could use six if that was the idea.

We would have to cut a backroom deal with the Heretier trade to ensure that.

Hi Brett Anderson from SEN.....

Again.

Hi Brett Anderson from SEN.....

Again.

Im starting to take you a bit more serious then GNF.

btw didnt mean that in a disrespectful way. Just think you have been absolutely spot on lately with your info.

Aware that it's now quite common knowledge that we will take Angus with either our 2nd or 3rd pick. Just thought I'd put my two bobs in. Been lucky enough to be employed in an environment which gets me quite familiar with the recruiting side of AFL, watching a lot of TAC, VFL and NEAFL. Having keenly followed Brayshaw this year knowing that we would be up around the mark again, I can comfortably say that this kid is the best pure mid of the draft by quite a stretch. Watched Eastern v Sandy late in the year where both Petracca and Brayshaw were playing, and even better were matched up on one another for about 60% of the match - Brayshaw won the battle, not hands down, but wore Petracca into the ground over the duration of the match with a work rate I've only seen in one other kid before and that kid is Joel Selwood. Absolutely elite disposal on both sides of his body (both hands and kicking), much like Sam Mitchell where you really are bemused as to what his preferred side is. Clean hands and a freakish ability to be where the ball is after the initial ruck contest. I think we are going to get an absolute gem in Brayshaw and I will be keen to see if we can develop him into the player I know he's capable of becoming over the next few years. Go Dees.

Aware that it's now quite common knowledge that we will take Angus with either our 2nd or 3rd pick. Just thought I'd put my two bobs in. Been lucky enough to be employed in an environment which gets me quite familiar with the recruiting side of AFL, watching a lot of TAC, VFL and NEAFL. Having keenly followed Brayshaw this year knowing that we would be up around the mark again, I can comfortably say that this kid is the best pure mid of the draft by quite a stretch. Watched Eastern v Sandy late in the year where both Petracca and Brayshaw were playing, and even better were matched up on one another for about 60% of the match - Brayshaw won the battle, not hands down, but wore Petracca into the ground over the duration of the match with a work rate I've only seen in one other kid before and that kid is Joel Selwood. Absolutely elite disposal on both sides of his body (both hands and kicking), much like Sam Mitchell where you really are bemused as to what his preferred side is. Clean hands and a freakish ability to be where the ball is after the initial ruck contest. I think we are going to get an absolute gem in Brayshaw and I will be keen to see if we can develop him into the player I know he's capable of becoming over the next few years. Go Dees.

I'm glad I read that sitting down.

Aware that it's now quite common knowledge that we will take Angus with either our 2nd or 3rd pick. Just thought I'd put my two bobs in. Been lucky enough to be employed in an environment which gets me quite familiar with the recruiting side of AFL, watching a lot of TAC, VFL and NEAFL. Having keenly followed Brayshaw this year knowing that we would be up around the mark again, I can comfortably say that this kid is the best pure mid of the draft by quite a stretch. Watched Eastern v Sandy late in the year where both Petracca and Brayshaw were playing, and even better were matched up on one another for about 60% of the match - Brayshaw won the battle, not hands down, but wore Petracca into the ground over the duration of the match with a work rate I've only seen in one other kid before and that kid is Joel Selwood. Absolutely elite disposal on both sides of his body (both hands and kicking), much like Sam Mitchell where you really are bemused as to what his preferred side is. Clean hands and a freakish ability to be where the ball is after the initial ruck contest. I think we are going to get an absolute gem in Brayshaw and I will be keen to see if we can develop him into the player I know he's capable of becoming over the next few years. Go Dees.

Very informative, thanks Mondê.

Aware that it's now quite common knowledge that we will take Angus with either our 2nd or 3rd pick. Just thought I'd put my two bobs in. Been lucky enough to be employed in an environment which gets me quite familiar with the recruiting side of AFL, watching a lot of TAC, VFL and NEAFL. Having keenly followed Brayshaw this year knowing that we would be up around the mark again, I can comfortably say that this kid is the best pure mid of the draft by quite a stretch. Watched Eastern v Sandy late in the year where both Petracca and Brayshaw were playing, and even better were matched up on one another for about 60% of the match - Brayshaw won the battle, not hands down, but wore Petracca into the ground over the duration of the match with a work rate I've only seen in one other kid before and that kid is Joel Selwood. Absolutely elite disposal on both sides of his body (both hands and kicking), much like Sam Mitchell where you really are bemused as to what his preferred side is. Clean hands and a freakish ability to be where the ball is after the initial ruck contest. I think we are going to get an absolute gem in Brayshaw and I will be keen to see if we can develop him into the player I know he's capable of becoming over the next few years. Go Dees.

Awsome!

Apparently Roos is in love with this kid already.

Aware that it's now quite common knowledge that we will take Angus with either our 2nd or 3rd pick. Just thought I'd put my two bobs in. Been lucky enough to be employed in an environment which gets me quite familiar with the recruiting side of AFL, watching a lot of TAC, VFL and NEAFL. Having keenly followed Brayshaw this year knowing that we would be up around the mark again, I can comfortably say that this kid is the best pure mid of the draft by quite a stretch. Watched Eastern v Sandy late in the year where both Petracca and Brayshaw were playing, and even better were matched up on one another for about 60% of the match - Brayshaw won the battle, not hands down, but wore Petracca into the ground over the duration of the match with a work rate I've only seen in one other kid before and that kid is Joel Selwood. Absolutely elite disposal on both sides of his body (both hands and kicking), much like Sam Mitchell where you really are bemused as to what his preferred side is. Clean hands and a freakish ability to be where the ball is after the initial ruck contest. I think we are going to get an absolute gem in Brayshaw and I will be keen to see if we can develop him into the player I know he's capable of becoming over the next few years. Go Dees.

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Thanks for that great insight Monde!

Aware that it's now quite common knowledge that we will take Angus with either our 2nd or 3rd pick. Just thought I'd put my two bobs in. Been lucky enough to be employed in an environment which gets me quite familiar with the recruiting side of AFL, watching a lot of TAC, VFL and NEAFL. Having keenly followed Brayshaw this year knowing that we would be up around the mark again, I can comfortably say that this kid is the best pure mid of the draft by quite a stretch. Watched Eastern v Sandy late in the year where both Petracca and Brayshaw were playing, and even better were matched up on one another for about 60% of the match - Brayshaw won the battle, not hands down, but wore Petracca into the ground over the duration of the match with a work rate I've only seen in one other kid before and that kid is Joel Selwood. Absolutely elite disposal on both sides of his body (both hands and kicking), much like Sam Mitchell where you really are bemused as to what his preferred side is. Clean hands and a freakish ability to be where the ball is after the initial ruck contest. I think we are going to get an absolute gem in Brayshaw and I will be keen to see if we can develop him into the player I know he's capable of becoming over the next few years. Go Dees.

don't talk him up into P-1, FFS

Well after watching their respective YouTube videos (I know, I know!) I'd be pretty content with Brayshaw coming to us. Looks to have a great size, hunger at the contest and skill level. Petracca's video didn't impress me that much.

I'm going against the grain and am a little underwhelmed by Brayshaw.

Watching his possessions across the carnival he has a tendency to just grab the ball, take a step or two and just bang it on the boot.

If we're to take a pick 2 to the draft I hope the Saints go McCartin at 1 and we could take Petracca at 2 ahead of Brayshaw.

I still think we'll trade both picks if we can.

Faith in Roos.

I'm going against the grain and am a little underwhelmed by Brayshaw.

Watching his possessions across the carnival he has a tendency to just grab the ball, take a step or two and just bang it on the boot.

If we're to take a pick 2 to the draft I hope the Saints go McCartin at 1 and we could take Petracca at 2 ahead of Brayshaw.

I don't know what you're seeing but I think he's spectacular! Balance, skill and toughness, kid will be a star in a few pre seasons. If we pass on him it will definitely be worse than the Wines decision IMO

Huge fan of Angus Brayshaw. Lock in #2 MFC in my opinion.

I'm going against the grain and am a little underwhelmed by Brayshaw.

Watching his possessions across the carnival he has a tendency to just grab the ball, take a step or two and just bang it on the boot.

If we're to take a pick 2 to the draft I hope the Saints go McCartin at 1 and we could take Petracca at 2 ahead of Brayshaw.

Sam Mitchell doesn't bother with ANY steps before getting ball on boot, and he's not bad.

Sam Mitchell doesn't bother with ANY steps before getting ball on boot, and he's not bad.

Brayshaw is no Mitchell, he's a long way off they can't even be compared its that far, I certainly didn't see him on the bottom of packs like Mitchell constantly hand-balling it out.

Each and every year I see the same few posters claiming that draftee X (predicted draft range 1 - 3) "will be a star!". I read the same for Coniglio, O'Rourke, Aish, Kelly and Toumpas (1 of these could probably eventuate to stardom but certainly not all). People dramatically overate the draft as they get immersed in the hype of the "unknown:", it's nothing but a lottery with a decreasing probability of selecting a "future star" as you go through the order.

Brayshaw is nothing more than an 18 year old prospect with "potential" of becoming a high quality AFL player.

From his highlights above very little got me excited, at one point I liked his attack on the ball and a tackle, but was about it. I constantly watched him receive the ball and blatantly bang it on the boot. His pace, agility and ability to evade players looked very average as well.

I'm just not going to get carried away in the hype on this one.

Brayshaw is no Mitchell, he's a long way off they can't even be compared its that far, I certainly didn't see him on the bottom of packs like Mitchell constantly hand-balling it out.

Each and every year I see the same few posters claiming that draftee X (predicted draft range 1 - 3) "will be a star!". I read the same for Coniglio, O'Rourke, Aish, Kelly and Toumpas (1 of these could probably eventuate to stardom but certainly not all). People dramatically overate the draft as they get immersed in the hype of the "unknown:", it's nothing but a lottery with a decreasing probability of selecting a "future star" as you go through the order.

Brayshaw is nothing more than an 18 year old prospect with "potential" of becoming a high quality AFL player.

From his highlights above very little got me excited, at one point I liked his attack on the ball and a tackle, but was about it. I constantly watched him receive the ball and blatantly bang it on the boot. His pace, agility and ability to evade players looked very average as well.

I'm just not going to get carried away in the hype on this one.

You very rarely see Mitchell at the bottom of packs, one of his great assets is he keeps his feet.

Agree about the overrating and likeness ratings placed on kids though. It does get a bit out of control.

Kelly and Aish are well on the way to being stars, there is time for the others. We will take Brayshaw and hopefully he will repay us by being a class mid but as you say there are no guarantees.

Brayshaw is no Mitchell, he's a long way off they can't even be compared its that far, I certainly didn't see him on the bottom of packs like Mitchell constantly hand-balling it out.

Each and every year I see the same few posters claiming that draftee X (predicted draft range 1 - 3) "will be a star!". I read the same for Coniglio, O'Rourke, Aish, Kelly and Toumpas (1 of these could probably eventuate to stardom but certainly not all). People dramatically overate the draft as they get immersed in the hype of the "unknown:", it's nothing but a lottery with a decreasing probability of selecting a "future star" as you go through the order.

Brayshaw is nothing more than an 18 year old prospect with "potential" of becoming a high quality AFL player.

From his highlights above very little got me excited, at one point I liked his attack on the ball and a tackle, but was about it. I constantly watched him receive the ball and blatantly bang it on the boot. His pace, agility and ability to evade players looked very average as well.

I'm just not going to get carried away in the hype on this one.

Mate...Not having a go at you but it can be said about any draftee with "potential"....You cannot pick a kid off some highlights on the internet

Recruit staff at AFL clubs have followed these players since they were playing in the under 12's all draftees have "potential".....I agree that the draft is a lottery and pick 50 can turn out to be a star where as a No 1 pick can be a dud.....But that doesn't happen that often.

Clubs can only pick the one that they think can be developed and hope that they got the pick right.....Someone has to go No 1 and some can think they are lucky enough to get on a club list....even for a year or two.

Mate...Not having a go at you but it can be said about any draftee with "potential"....You cannot pick a kid off some highlights on the internet

Recruit staff at AFL clubs have followed these players since they were playing in the under 12's all draftees have "potential".....I agree that the draft is a lottery and pick 50 can turn out to be a star where as a No 1 pick can be a dud.....But that doesn't happen that often.

Clubs can only pick the one that they think can be developed and hope that they got the pick right.....Someone has to go No 1 and some can think they are lucky enough to get on a club list....even for a year or two.

I completely agree with you Bossdog and I didn't take your first line as having a go at me, thank you for putting it in a nice context.

I understand clubs follow the players from a very young age, I understand scouts travel to the games and watch them in person and then further review the tapes from home. I have a friend who is a scout (not at the MFC).

I was just going against the grain with regards to the copious amounts of over-exaggeration for how good Brayshaw actually is.

I don't doubt his attack on the ball, attack on an opposing player with the ball or work ethic. I just can't rate him as that "future star" because he is predicted within the top 3.

The mids I did consider exciting over the last few years prior to the draft were Swallow, O'Meara, and T. Mitchell - All being hard at it (like Brayshaw) yet had that incredible athleticism and ability to get themselves out of tight spaces with precision to go with it (some may consider it a touch of class).

By all means if we select him, I hope I am eating my words and that I'm wrong.

With regards to the draft I get more excitement trying to predict those that will slide that are yet are more likely to develop into quality AFL players (little/ less hype). My favorite example is looking back at the 2008 draft and seeing the likes of Shuey, Ballantyne, Zaharakis, Beams, and Hannebery all being selected at #18, #21, #23, #29, and #30 respectively (just a shame we didn't get any). Note I didn't pick this at the time, I didn't try back then but there were a large number of Demonlanders screaming for Hannebery after his U18 GF game.

Hope we don't need to take either pick to the draft.

Hope we don't need to take either pick to the draft.

Looks like its heading that way but.

If we want Brayshaw then we can't trade pick 2. Looking at what the experts are saying, you can basically throw a blanket over him, Petracca and Mccartin as far as ability goes. Any of the three could go at one. As it stands we know that GWS are sold on Petracca, and we THINK the Saints want to go tall. If we trade out pick 2, that brings another variable into the mix. Who knows what they would do with it? We could well see Petracca go at one and Brayshaw at two before we get a shot at him.

Pick 2 ... Brayshaw

Pick 3 ... Petracca