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Too soon to be advocating to get rid of Howe. Give him a bit of break. Trading him at the first sign of a slump could very easily come back to bite the dees in the derrier.

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Might need a few 200cm defenders looking at tonight's game.

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Too soon to be advocating to get rid of Howe. Give him a bit of break. Trading him at the first sign of a slump could very easily come back to bite the dees in the derrier.

He'd want to be getting his ass into gear pretty quickly.

Apart from the usual highlight reel cameo, he doesn't get enough of it, doesn't get to the right spots enough, and his goal kicking is sub-standard (which is bemusing, because he is usually a very good field kick).

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And his teamate Pyke? All Canadians have some ingrained hockey agro from childhood.

Also, Tex would be a handy get.

I like Mike Pyke.

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We'll the tribunal tonight has identified the type of players we need. Players that have had ballet lessons so they can pirouette on left and right feet to avoid a contest.

can we redraft morton & cook, bennell?

maybe Hird to coach the pirouette?


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Too soon to be advocating to get rid of Howe. Give him a bit of break. Trading him at the first sign of a slump could very easily come back to bite the dees in the derrier.

Zac Clarke is a really good ruckman coming to the prime of his career, Howe is a good player but I think Roos will understand the need for a mature ruckman, and we can't really rely on Gawn at this stage.

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I agree.

I don't think buying in superstars on big money is Roos' modus operandi.

I think buying Tippett, and then Franklin, on huge money deals, and essentially chipping away at the team culture Roos had built up, is one of the big sticking points that saw Roos leave the Swans rather acrimoniously.

Roos at Syndey never bought a big money star.

Barry Hall came across about 6 months before Roos took the reins, while Eade was still in charge.

I just don't think it fits Roos philosophy.

He seems to prefer finding undervalued commodities and tapping into their talent.

a team needs talent spread evenly acroos the field & list. a big name player on zillion$ doesn't do much in a positive way. but we do need to continue bringing in both maturity & kids as well.

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Not looking at key players, but from the interstate clubs, heres some names to think about.

From the Crows:

With Walker their key forward and Lewis Johnston a young SA boy, Josh Jenkins and Luke Thompson would be nice to bring back to Victoria. Cant see the former leaving however he and Walker should be their key players up forward. The Crouch brothers would be unreal, but extremely unlikely. Sam Kerridge is the epitome of a big-bodied mid, but hes also their #1 tagger in 2014. Jarryd Lyons seems to be on the outs. Wouldnt go near McKernan, but Sam Shaw would be okay for a later pick.

From Brisbane:

Jordan Lisle can play forward and back as a KPP, while Ryan Lester is the sort of prototypical big-bodied midfielder that we seem to be keen to bring into the club. Brisbane are like us a few years ago lots of senior bodies, lots of kids, and not much in-between. If they lose more players at the end of this year due to mass walk-outs theyre in for a world of pain.

From Fremantle:

Tom Sheridan and Hayden Crozier are two of their 22-26 list players, and like Michie last year might look for more opportunities at a club back in Victoria. Theyve been subs a lot. One of Zac Clarke / Jack Hannath / Jon Griffin might look for an opportunity to play elsewhere. Lachie Neale is a pocket dynamo, but I can see him back at the Crows rather than heading to Victoria. Matt Taberner and Tanner Smith might be looking for greater opportunities.

From GC17:

Tim Sumner fits the prototype, but hasnt shown the athletic capability to run through the middle of the park. Daniel Gorringe cant get a look in as a ruckman; I expect him to head to the Crows. I dont know why Jesse Lonergan hasnt played a game this year (injured?), but his form for Tasmania two years back was terrifically exciting hes very strong and hard at the contest. The Suns have to start to trim their list to meet list requirements, but theres enough fat on it that other clubs might not want to touch.

From GWS:

Wed all love Dylan Shiel, but its going to be tough to prise him free. The one advantage is that the likes of Coniglio, Greene, Smith, Treloar and some bloke who doesnt warrant it based upon performance per $$ are all way ahead of him in the pecking order of midfielders. Will Hoskin-Elliott is super-quick, but very up and down in terms of his application reminds of a taller Blease. Adam Tomlinson or Kristian Jaksch would be handy as versatile KPP options to bring in. Matt Buntine and Jono ORourke were perhaps surprise top 5 picks, and are a long way from establishing themselves. Would have either of them at the Dees as theyd add to depth, and I think ORourke will eventually be a very good player. He aint no Macrae tho.

From Port:

Andrew Moore has been tearing it up in the SANFL but cannot break into the Power midfield. I remember him being very loose defensively, but its two years since I was close to the Power boys. He grew up a Demon supporter too, even tho he was the bloke who broke Bleases leg in the school playground. John Butcher is a big risk but a potentially big reward. Cam OShea is a perfect third tall, hes like Rivers reincarnate, but cant get an in in a tight defensive back six at Alberton, and would slot straight into our backline. Jarrad Redden has had a rotten run with injuries, but is a big unit and a big talent; he was rated as a better talent than the Lobster, and might be looking for a change of scenery. Ben Newton is a WA boy, but is a ball magnet just getting over a raft of injuries. Aaron Young has been used as a sub a lot, but has pace and guts.

From Sydney:

Tim Membrey is a KPP in a midfielders body; I have no idea whether he can become a strong inside mid or not Cameron Ling did. I dont believe Ryan OKeefe will be able to go around again as a delisted free agent, as much as his pride might want him to do so. Ive always rated Craig Bird, and he cant get a look in as a starting mid for the Swans but hed be a walk-up start at the Dees. Gary Rohans leg seems to be holding together, but his confidence seems shot a change of scenery might do him the world of good? Would love to get Sam Reid or Luke Parker or both. Dan Hanneberry too. The Swans arent going to be under as much salary cap pressure as you might think as the likes of OKeefe, Goodes, Richards, and Shaw will not play forever, so enticing players to leave is going to be harder than it would seem due to the Franklin / Tippett mega-salaries.

From Meth Coke:

Mitch Brown is talked of returning to Victoria every time hes out of contract. Unlikely now, given he and McKenzie are their key defenders with Glass likely to retire at the end of the year. Andrew Gaff and Luke Shuey would be brilliant additions. Ashley Smith seems to be out of favour as a running defender. Matt Rosa as we know is an unrestricted free agent but I cant really see him picking the Dees as his club of choice. Scott Lycett would be very handy again, another SA-born ruckman Id expect the Crows (or the Power) to target. Some bloke called Nic Naitanui wants $1.1m every year for the next 5 years and some club might be just crazy enough to pay it and engineer a trade for him. Personally, Im hoping he gets that sort of ridiculous coin to stay in WA and the likes of Gaff or Shuey are forced out as a result.

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From Meth Coke:

Mitch Brown is talked of returning to Victoria every time hes out of contract. Unlikely now, given he and McKenzie are their key defenders with Glass likely to retire at the end of the year. Andrew Gaff and Luke Shuey would be brilliant additions. Ashley Smith seems to be out of favour as a running defender. Matt Rosa as we know is an unrestricted free agent but I cant really see him picking the Dees as his club of choice. Scott Lycett would be very handy again, another SA-born ruckman Id expect the Crows (or the Power) to target. Some bloke called Nic Naitanui wants $1.1m every year for the next 5 years and some club might be just crazy enough to pay it and engineer a trade for him. Personally, Im hoping he gets that sort of ridiculous coin to stay in WA and the likes of Gaff or Shuey are forced out as a result.

Forget Gaff, at the moment nothing more than an over rated Nahas...

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demonandrew.

good post,dont how you got luke thompson,?

hes been starved over there and is not in the pecking order for some reason.

my friend tells me he is gonna be delisted this year.

good kid with a strong heart,can be 2nd tall option down back.

and kicks a great goal{i watched his whole junior career}but has never been given the opputunity.

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Zac Clarke

John Butcher

Luke Thompson

Craig Bird

Tom Bell

Andrew Moore

Let Roosy work his magic by giving them a role and settling them in the side,

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Zac Clarke

John Butcher

Luke Thompson

Craig Bird

Tom Bell

Andrew Moore

Let Roosy work his magic by giving them a role and settling them in the side,

John Butcher is a worse kick than Cloke without the pluses that he brings. No thanks.

Tom Bell, goes hard but not sure he brings much more than his size. Bird is a handy player but has good players around him.

Clarke is worth a shot.


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John Butcher

r u serious.john butcher couldnt get a kick in stampede.

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John Butcher

r u serious.john butcher couldnt get a kick in stampede.

Was very highly rated as a young player, we would have to give up next to nothing, one of those players that could pay off bigtime and if it doesn't it hasn't cost us much

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Was very highly rated as a young player, we would have to give up next to nothing, one of those players that could pay off bigtime and if it doesn't it hasn't cost us much

We've got Fitzy who doesn't cost us much either, he comes with the 2nd worst ball drop in the game. Butcher has that covered easily. I think Fitz offers more as depth than Butcher.

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500k for Shiel would be an ABSOLUTE steal!

I rate Shiel very highly, it will take that type of coin to get him onboard.

Richmond will be chasing him hard.

Treloar will be highly sort after, would be great to get him.

O'Rourke and Plowman are the other two.

Would be great to land any one of those players, would be a dream to land a couple of them.

Considering we pay Watts around 500k I would have to agree with you there.

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Were Dom and Dylan good mates back at GWS?

Let's just hope GWS stay thoroughly average this year, it'll make it much easier to lure their players home on big coin.

Much harder to pry the guns away from GCS. They'll be pushing top 4 next year easily, and you can't get a much better location to spend your footy playing days. It's no wonder everyone's leaving the Lions when the nearby alternative is the Suns.

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