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He actually needs 10 or more games in the seniors without fear of being dropped to actually understand his role and feel confident in his abilility. Which is something he hasn't had.

You're surely not suggesting that he plays like a squib because he's afraid of being dropped?

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You're surely not suggesting that he plays like a squib because he's afraid of being dropped?

I never said he played like a squib. I'm saying Roos needs to play his best 22 together for as long as he can until it clicks. They all need to get used to the new game plan, and get used to playing together. In 10 weeks time they will be a much better team.

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Roh Bail and Cam Pedersen throw themselves in despite not having any guarantee of several games in a row. If anxiety about his future is inhibiting Jack, how come?

He's got superb skills and disposal when he gets an easy possession. He doesn't get the other sort.

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I finished watching the replay against the Suns early this morning.

my impressions of Jack W is he's obviously highly skilled & talented, but tries to avoid heavy contact. he tries to steal the ball inside & dash. Outside isn't anywhere near physical enough in a one on one contest.

He's definately worth persisting with, but I would like to see him play a block of games @ Casey to try to get the missing parts of his game into his play.

If he's to play as a starting Mid, I'd like to see him stack on the Kilo's of muscle to have more burst through weight.

If he's to play outside he has to be more vigorous 'one on one', & enjoy the rough & tumble. he needs a lot of work.

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just worked my way through 11 pages. Dont have the latin for that

I still dont know. Stats and many games show that Jack is still progressing at above average. This explosion of comment has occurred for the poor game last week but even in this he laid more tackles and did plenty of unnoticed work? than others.

I have seen him present and his teammates ignore his perfectly timed lead to space, I have seen him with the ball looking for a non existing outlet or a teammate offering the next move.

I think he may well be a tad too talented for others around him his intuitive action is often ahead of any one else and they perhaps lack the ability to get the delivery to him accurately.

Other teams do seem to have figured out how to take Jack out of the game and often just keep it away from him it is up to our team to keep him involved. If Jack is then found to be lacking he will fade away. As it is most can his talent and are frustrated that it is not reaping a greater return for our team

I just hope Roos can overcome the problems of Jack and the team. Jack is only part of the problem and may yet prove to be a considerable part of the answer.

I hope Roos can get Jack and the team working together.

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I have seen him present and his teammates ignore his perfectly timed lead to space,

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I too have noticed this and on many more than an odd occurrence. Makes me wonder why. I know form experience ( as many of us have ) playing in team sports that irrespective of mateship or such if a player is a bit suss in any way they become leppers on the playing field.

Now all Im suggesting is is there some sort of issue that hasnt worked its way to the surface.. I.e players aware and we arent ?

Watts knows hes best in space and makes effort to get to some.. often to no reward. Its damn odd I reckon. hes not a shabby kick after all.

Watt are we missing here

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I too have noticed this and on many more than an odd occurrence. Makes me wonder why. I know form experience ( as many of us have ) playing in team sports that irrespective of mateship or such if a player is a bit suss in any way they become leppers on the playing field.

Now all Im suggesting is is there some sort of issue that hasnt worked its way to the surface.. I.e players aware and we arent ?

Watts knows hes best in space and makes effort to get to some.. often to no reward. Its damn odd I reckon. hes not a shabby kick after all.

Watt are we missing here

Part of what we're missing is the fact that Jack Watts wilts under the slightest bit of body pressure. He's easy to spoil because he can't hold front spot in a contest.

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Part of what we're missing is the fact that Jack Watts wilts under the slightest bit of body pressure. He's easy to spoil because he can't hold front spot in a contest.

Well that was my first thoughts as well. But a player in space isnt under the same sort of body on body.

But I hear ya thinking ...

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Well that was my first thoughts as well. But a player in space isnt under the same sort of body on body.

But I hear ya thinking ...

It's like you said; if you see your teammate lose marking contests one-on-one, then that person can subconsiously become almost "leprous"--to the point that you'll avoid kicking the ball to him even when he's wide open.

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I too have noticed this and on many more than an odd occurrence. Makes me wonder why. I know form experience ( as many of us have ) playing in team sports that irrespective of mateship or such if a player is a bit suss in any way they become leppers on the playing field.

Now all Im suggesting is is there some sort of issue that hasnt worked its way to the surface.. I.e players aware and we arent ?

Watts knows hes best in space and makes effort to get to some.. often to no reward. Its damn odd I reckon. hes not a shabby kick after all.

Watt are we missing here

I noticed this happen to Watts against the Suns when leading, the ball was in our possession on the boundary wing, Watts sort of led from the flank toward a hole inline with the goals. 2 other Dees were advancing near watts but along the boundary. They attracted the footy whilst watts was gesturing why not me.

My first thought, was they don't take Watts seriously as an Option ? Could it be they don't trust him to be able to contest strongly, if the ball hits the deck?

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I'd sway towards any of the following:

Passive

Leisurely

Meek

Soft

Actually I think the use of laconic to describe watts is a simple case of dyslexia.

Lethargic was probably the word sought to describe him.

Instead....thought lazy and nearest ic ending word....laconic!

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Shat himself once dropped a sitter in front as he expected contact from behind.

Refuses to tackle and run at the player with the ball, content to just corral the opposition.

Not hard enough, probably baulks at his own shadow. Had enough, send him back to Casey til he can prove he's got what it takes to play senior footy.

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[censored] lacks a circuit board.

Nothing to build on.

Seen more than enough.

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Im sorry.. (actually not ) ..this guy just is fn useless. What a waste.

Like a bunny in headlights ...fair dinkum

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Im sorry.. (actually not ) ..this guy just is fn useless. What a waste.

Like a bunny in headlights ...fair dinkum

My exact same thoughts, BB.

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Watts has to be a waste of space at this club. Anyone who thinks he is a good player, even average is biased or kidding themselves. He cant/wont even be prepared to do the basics; block, run and carry, defend, mark. It's basics you cant teach a player. They either have the hunger or they dont. Despite Watts being contracted, I would play him at VFL for the remainder of the year, ALL year. He needs to make a spot for himself in the team but with non negotables not being followed, im not even sure if he deserves to be listed on the AFL list.

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Did Watts just get the Bronx cheers for taking a simple chest mark just before 3 art time?

He is worst on ground.

He did. Easily the worst player on ground and one of our worst players on the AFL list!

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Yep, and I think Roosey has had enough of Watts and maybe Howe as well. There is more to playing footy than trying to only take speckies Jeremy. Our skills are kindergarten stuff. Our desire is pretty much deplorable. Our committment is ............................?

Where is the pride and the passion? Who in our side has the gumption to "gutrun"? Only Jonesy! I am over this attitude problem. Too many players at this club are there just for a pay packet. Earn your money boys! There is no way we will be successful in the next 5 years with this bunch of inept plodders. Time to sweep the place clean and start from scratch. Oh and I do not want these bunnies to utter those infamous words "Stick with us, we are gunna come good soon" ever again.

Back to Watts, if anyone thinks he is a good AFL level footballer then they are sadly very, very poor judges of ability. Only Watts can alter this !!!!!!!!!

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Salam has shown more in 10 minutes than 80 minutes from Howe and Watts. Can we just copy watts and howe and go ctrl x but never paste them again? They dont deserve to be in this team

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