N.Jones- just a champion

J.Grimes - calm and controlled

Watts - a wasted talent

Dawes - great concerted effort

Viney- ready to impose

Frawley - effective when presenting

Tyson - laconic and unimpressive

McKenzie - just a tagger

Dunn - creative and intelligent

Cross - tagged and created

Pederson - tried but failed

Vince - disappeared when needed

Kennedy - Harris - some quick plays

McDonald - was surprisingly exposed

Evans - one impressive goal

Howe - better when forward

Spencer - was basically ineffective

Bail - had little impact

M.Jones - few redeeming qualities

Terlich - the clanger king

Jetta - provided good run

Georgiou - weaknesses were exposed

Hard to argue with those, but I think you went easy on Watts. Maybe - Heartless. Drop him.

Grimes - Failed to inspire

Would love to see some more mongrel and impact from this half of the captainship. Not the worst today but too much is left to N. Jones.

Think you're a little harsh on Matt Jones. He didn't quite back up his game from last week, but I didn't think he was bad today - gave us some good run through the middle.

McDonald - Please don't kick

Jetta, Bail, McKenzie, Spencer, Evans, Terlich, Pederson = just VFL standard

Jetta, Bail, McKenzie, Spencer, Evans, Terlich, Pederson = just VFL standard

You can add Tom McDonald to that group too. His disposal is shocking, and his decision making is even worse.

Terlich - the clanger king

1 clanger makes you a king? Turn it up. Terlich was ok today.

His disposal efficiency was higher than these following players:

N.Jones

Dawes

Frawley

Vince

Tyson

JKH

But don't let the facts get in the way of a good old fashioned misconception.

You can add Tom McDonald to that group too. His disposal is shocking, and his decision making is even worse.

Not sure you can write off our second best defender after one ordinary game. I know his disposal/decision making hasn't always been flash, but wouldn't want to be sending McDonald to the seconds any time soon.

N Jones: more Brownlow votes

Watts - cale morton again!

N Jones: more Brownlow votes

Has surely racked up a few so far this year. At least 2 for today's efforts.

My 3 word Brownlow analysis.

"Garry's got 3"...votes today and medals (has this year in the bag)

1 clanger makes you a king? Turn it up. Terlich was ok today.

His disposal efficiency was higher than these following players:

N.Jones

Dawes

Frawley

Vince

Tyson

JKH

But don't let the facts get in the way of a good old fashioned misconception.

And don't let stats misguide you. His decision making is rubbish and stands out like a sore thumb in a team desperate for good ball users.

He'll be playing 2s within the month.

And don't let stats misguide you. His decision making is rubbish and stands out like a sore thumb in a team desperate for good ball users.

He'll be playing 2s within the month.

Poster called him the "clanger king". He had 1 clanger.

Has surely racked up a few so far this year. At least 2 for today's efforts.

Ablett , Swallow and Jones.

Poster called him the "clanger king". He had 1 clanger.

1 too many

1 too many

Well you're gonna have to drop these players too then:

Jones 1

Dawes 2

Cross 3

Frawley 1

Vince 3

Viney 3

McDonald 3

Jones 3

Grimes 2

Dunn 2

Bail 2

Pedo 2

Tyson 2

Watts 1

Georgiou 1

Spencer 1

And special mention to McKenzie with 5 CLANGERS. But apparently Terlich is the "clanger king" for having 1.

Not gonna be able to field a team next week by the looks of your selection criteria.

Ridiculous.

Well you're gonna have to drop these players too then:

Jones 1

Dawes 2

Cross 3

Frawley 1

Vince 3

Viney 3

McDonald 3

Jones 3

Grimes 2

Dunn 2

Bail 2

Pedo 2

Tyson 2

Watts 1

Georgiou 1

Spencer 1

And special mention to McKenzie with 5 CLANGERS. But apparently Terlich is the "clanger king" for having 1.

Not gonna be able to field a team next week by the looks of your selection criteria.

Ridiculous.

Mckenzie was best on ground for us today then.

viney - very solid game

howe - good second half. leave up forward, will be a handful with the opposition focused on Dawes + Frawley.

watts - deserves all criticism. don't know what can be done with him. just so soft. his "leads" are just jogs, looks like he doesn't want the ball at all.

JKH - worth persisting with. needs to get involved in the play more. will be better with less static, stop start footy from the team. much rather him than Byrnes

spencer - taps are useless. 3 disposals for the game + wasn't overly physical. unfortunately all we've got for now, but practically useless.

frawley - dropped chest marks. he and dawes (through poor kicking) taking their chances probably would have seen us get over the line.

ablett - very protected species

Bail - beat his opponent

Not sure you can write off our second best defender after one ordinary game. I know his disposal/decision making hasn't always been flash, but wouldn't want to be sending McDonald to the seconds any time soon.

Oh, i'm not basing it off one game. He constantly makes poor decisions and his disposal hasn't improved since arriving at the club. Sure he can run and is tall, but he virtually has zero football nous.

But he's not the only one, Spencer is not one of my favourites either, plus there are quite a few who are clearly just making up the numbers. There's a very good reason why we find ourselves where we are on the ladder,

ablett - very protected species

Ablett - Can't touch him

come at me with the knives,im big enough to take it.

terlich=PR has taken most turnovers out of his game,,man gets the ball alot,thats why hes in team.

watts=like a puppy dog,one day you love him,the next he chits all ,over the carpet. foot up clacker needed NOW.

pedder these 3 want to be at the club and play like it,yes they are hole fillers,yes they are average, but we can keep them and be happy.

grimes

dunn

frawley,here we go,lazy overrated and only plays when he feels like it. simple really.this bloke just bludges off his teammates and is taking the pi55 at the club and supporters.

mcdonald=kid still learning and improving every week,no dramas here.

paul roos. he sees all of this and will make the cuts when the time is right.overall his reducing the scoreline and keeping us in the game until 3/4 time is working a treat.but he doesnt suffer fools and will swing axe at years end. thank christ for that.