Ok, I'm a Demonland reader and believer and have only ever posted once before. Every night I log onto Demonland to get my daily fix and every time I do I can't help but get peeved at the photo on the far right of the header. Whilst I admire his tenacity and hard work, if we are to succeeded as a football side, JM can not be in our best 25 players.

I'm hoping he doesn't get a game next year, which would mean others have gone past him.

Even if you don't agree with everything I am saying, you must admit that he surely doesn't deserve to sit alongside Roos, Jones, Frawley and Clarke on the Demonland front page.

Akhuna matata

I'm just annoyed at his tuckshop arms. Can't something be done about that?

That's last years leadership group

Akhuna matata

Hakuna matata.

Pay attention ...

Bing, is your name Chandler?

Hakuna matata.

Pay attention ...

If you really knew the meaning of the phrase, you wouldn't care that he messed it up.

Yes we all hope Jordie suddenly learns to kick properly but the best we can hope is that he can become the best blanket man in the AFL behind Crowley.

Ok, I'm a demonland reader and believer, and have only ever posted once before. Every night I log onto demonland to get my daily fix and every time I do I can't help but get peeved at the photo on the far right of the header. Whilst I admire his tenacity and hard work, if we are to succeeded as a football side, JM can not be in our best 25 players. I'm hoping he doesn't get a game next year, which would mean others have gone past him. Even if you don't agree with everything I am saying, you must admit that he surely doesn't deserve to sit alongside Roos, Jones, Frawley and Clarke on the demonland front page.

I don't agree with this style vendetta against a player that gives his all.

What if he is to improve out of sight?

Do you recall the transformation of Brett Kirk under Roos?

But to complain because his photo is on the header ... FCS, what a tool you must be.

If you really knew the meaning of the phrase, you wouldn't care that he messed it up.

LIKE!

I don't agree with this style vendetta against a player that gives his all.

What if he is to improve out of sight?

Do you recall the transformation of Brett Kirk under Roos?

But to complain because his photo is on the header ... FCS, what a tool you must be.

I did recognise the fact that he does give his all which I respect him for. It's not a vendetta against him, more on the club. I'm simply saying that I hope we improve as a team so he isn't a part of our best. By the way he's no Brett kirk and I'm no tool!

If you really knew the meaning of the phrase, you wouldn't care that he messed it up.

Or you would have watched Lion King too many times to give a sh#t anymore.

I hope Jordie becomes a top line player under Roos.

Giving him a 3 year deal was a joke

Ok, I'm a Demonland reader and believer and have only ever posted once before. Every night I log onto Demonland to get my daily fix and every time I do I can't help but get peeved at the photo on the far right of the header. Whilst I admire his tenacity and hard work, if we are to succeeded as a football side, JM can not be in our best 25 players.

I'm hoping he doesn't get a game next year, which would mean others have gone past him.

Even if you don't agree with everything I am saying, you must admit that he surely doesn't deserve to sit alongside Roos, Jones, Frawley and Clarke on the Demonland front page.

Hope it's your last post as well. Back to the shadows.

Giving him a 3 year deal was a joke

You can join him.

Seriously people we keep losing by 100 points on multiple occasions. Skill can only account for so much of those losses. The majority of those losses are due to complete lack of effort and intensity. McKenzie is probably top 3 behind Jones and Garland if not top 5 at consistent hardness and effort.

I also like our chances in games when Ablett, Griffen or Dangerfield are shut out of any meaningful midfield impact. McKenzie provided that in the last month or so of the year in 2013. It becomes 17 v 17 with Jordie negating 3 of the top 10 players in the comp, that sounds ok to me.

Giving him a 3 year deal was a joke

Without the terms how would you know?

I actually thought he was back to his best in the final 5 weeks.

Kept Ablett to an amazing 19 ish

Kept Dangerfield quiet

Kept Griffen to 17

I don't like putting him in our best 22 but every side needs a Crowley

Crowley is in his own league when it comes to tagging. Not only that, he is actually a decent player offensively as he's smart enough to know when to make his move.

As for every team 'needing a Crowley', I'm not so sure I agree. Take Geelong nowadays and Hawthorn and Sydney. Sewell is a run with player but still gets a lot of the ball, but neither of the other two sides have one midfielder who only tags and does nothing else.

McKenzie is a very limited footballer and while I'll never question his endeavour, I'm not sure he'll be a start up mid come 2015/16.

Obviously I'll be delighted if he proves me wrong and his skill set at AFL level magically transform.

I did recognise the fact that he oes give his ll which I respect him for. It's not a vendetta against him, more on the club. I'm simply saying that I hope we improve as a team so he isn't a part of our best. By the way he's no Brett kirk and I'm no tool!

Fair enough, I went too far with that post.

I think I'm having draft period withdrawals.

Giving him a 3 year deal was a joke

Wait until you hear the one about 3 years to Pedersen. You'll die of laughter..

If my memory is correct he came to us via the rookie draft so on that basis we have done well.

But don't expect him to be more than a tagger.

In that role he is quite useful.

IMO he does not have the skill set to be any more than that.

Giving him a 3 year deal was a joke

A very small joke when compared to some of our other contracts.

Jordie got that contract off a good year and gives his all. That is a reasonable basis to get one.

If my memory is correct he came to us via the rookie draft so on that basis we have done well.

But don't expect him to be more than a tagger.

In that role he is quite useful.

IMO he does not have the skill set to be any more than that.

And until we have better, he is in the side.

And until we have better, he is in the side.

Exactly.

I wish you could bottle his determination, desire and hardness. A few others at the club could have a drink from that bottle.

And until we have better, he is in the side.

There lies the rub Redleg.

We will know we have a good side when he is struggling to get a game.