GWS Recruiting

[Yeats8 21]

Is it just me or is the GWS recruiting team with Stephen Silvagni a butch of amateur hour hacks!

They use 2 number one draft picks on key position forwards in Patton and Boyd to slot in with an all Australian forward in Jeremy Cameron...then they select Cameron McCarthey with pick 14 who is also a KPF.

They have 2 number one draft pick midfielders in $cully and Whitfield and they use pick 2 on Kelly who plays the same role.

Most of the ball is in their defence....why wouldn't you look at Sharenberg and key backmen in the draft.

It annoys me as we get crucified for needing a "chop out" from the AFL for finances this year...but no one cares how much $$$ gets sent to GWS or how many extra priority draft picks they keep getting.

[Forest Demon 4,681]

To be honest, I was stunned when they went McCarthy at 14

[Jock Strap 197]

Really. Watch them win a premiership in a few years time

[skills32 229]

You don't have to be Einstein to work it out.

All their low picks will be worth gold in the form of low draft picks in years to come.

They keep the best and raffle off the second best.

How do you reckon they got all their low picks this year.

Very smart thinking if you ask me.

[Deecisive 1,709]

I wonder if they will be able to keep all those kids there, as they come out of contracts they will find a lot of clubs wanting to bring these kids home and offering their best $$'s that the GWS will have trouble matching. How many players like getting paid peanuts to play along side $cully watching him get him get a handful of possessions for $1m a year.

At the moment GWS is able to trade some of these disgruntled kids for high draft picks that may not always be the case. It will be interesting to see if they can keep a settled side over the next 3-4 years.

[rjay 25,093]

It's an interesting topic.

I've had a problem with how they set the club up and the AFL has a lot to answer for here. I posted this a year or two back.

The idea was this club was supposed to come into the comp and be competitive, the problem is they are shooting for a flag in a couple of years time.These things are not mutually exclusive.

In doing this they have created a lot of dead rubber one sided games which is bad for TV which means bad for the game.

2 reasons why the AFL are a fail on this is one, they needed to have more control over the process instead of letting others with a different agenda, Gubby and SOS run it. Two, they needed to have the pre team team play in the VFL like GC did. Bringing kids out of the Sydney Mickey Mouse comp into the AFL comp was an amateur hour move.

The coming season will give an indiction of where they are at in the premiership race but at the moment GC are a fair way ahead, more than their one year advantage in the competition.

To me GWS needed to be competitive in their first year or two, they haven't been and even a premiership will not win the west. Soccer has this region covered. The AFL and GWS lost the one year advantage going for a short medium flag…game over.

[RalphiusMaximus 6,088]

Really. Watch them win a premiership in a few years time

LOL!! I laugh at your insane notion!

[Guest]

They will be the Bears for a new generation except they will get pots of money and support from the AFL unlike the Bears who didn't even get the time of day from headquarters.

[McQueen 17,867]

Really. Watch them win a premiership in a few years time

Yeah-nah.

Suns will be too strong during this period and will always over shadow the Giants.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

The other thing to remember is having a lot of one type of player means you can easily trade one or two.

Especially key forwards which many teams are still crying out for.

[RalphiusMaximus 6,088]

Yeah-nah.

Suns will be too strong during this period and will always over shadow the Giants.

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Totally agree. The Suns did it right, they got a genuine superstar to both keep them in games and show the kids how to play, they got a pretty decent spread of ready-mades and they recruited really well with their bag of draft picks. I think it's downright scary that they aren't even going to need Ablett in a couple of years time. Great management.

[Carrot Top 947]

The other thing to remember is having a lot of one type of player means you can easily trade one or two.

Especially key forwards which many teams are still crying out for.

Would they get the same value though? Would you give up #1 for Patton? Are you going to give up a top pick for (say) Scully if he's fifth best mid in a struggling side.

If they are picking kids that they think will be guns on the basis they don't really need them and that they might get a good pick/trade later down the track then the lot of them should be sacked.

If you aren't picking to better your team then what the hell are you doing?

[Maldonboy38 6,406]

GWS recruiting looks like it is specific and focused, but deeply flawed. The only reason I can think of to stockpile so many KPF's, is that they know they are going to lose one/two in a year or two, or they believe one/two aren't going to make it at AFL level. I am unsure about contracts, but I reckon they will release Patton at the end of 2014.

[puntkick 325]

LOL!! I laugh at your insane notion!

They think they know what they're doing

" judge neeld at the end of his contract. very few things look good when they're half-finished."

Is your insane notion due for an update ?

[DemonOX 8,801]

Who gives a rats butt check.

We have enough worries of our own to get through.

Edited November 23, 2013 by DemonOX

[RalphiusMaximus 6,088]

They think they know what they're doing

" judge neeld at the end of his contract. very few things look good when they're half-finished."

Is your insane notion due for an update ?

My insane notion can never be disproved since we'll never see what the team would have looked like

[puntkick 325]

Who gives a rats butt check.

We have enough worries if our own to get through.

You should be worried. With the AFL $s going to GWS & Suns we're almost destined to be long term cellar dwellers.To explain more would take me hours .

[puntkick 325]

My insane notion can never be disproved since we'll never see what the team would have looked like

Sorry RM thought this was a GWS thread but I'm in no hurry to go to bed if you want to bring in the MFC

[RalphiusMaximus 6,088]

Happy to keep to the topic.

[pilgrim 122]

Everyone would have been saying the exact same thing if we had've received a priority pick and chose him. We wouldn't be complaining and neither will GWS!

[puntkick 325]

Happy to keep to the topic.

The topic actually bores me to the back teeth because of the AFL "structualling" such as fixturing etc etc which almost predetermines

the finalists.Can you imagine the crowd at a home ground final GWS v Suns ?

[Deestroy All 14,266]

You don't have to be Einstein to work it out.

All their low picks will be worth gold in the form of low draft picks in years to come.

They keep the best and raffle off the second best.

How do you reckon they got all their low picks this year.

Very smart thinking if you ask me.

Smart if you're into collecting high draft picks. This isn't footy card trading.

How do you think the players will feel knowing they're being herded like cattle? It's hardly building a good culture or football club.

McCarthy and they also took Lobb.

Instead of keeping SOS' lust cycle for draft picks going, why not use them to build a football team.

Einstein's theory may be stock up on KPPsthen trade, it would be good if those trades landed quality senior players in return, problem is those players don't want to go there.

I may be well off, but it seems to me they've misused their huge sack of draft picks, and they're building a club on a shoddy foundation.

[puntkick 325]

Heater will fix up a shoddy foundation

[daisycutter 29,743]

Like.

Totally agree. The Suns did it right, they got a genuine superstar to both keep them in games and show the kids how to play, they got a pretty decent spread of ready-mades and they recruited really well with their bag of draft picks. I think it's downright scary that they aren't even going to need Ablett in a couple of years time. Great management.

I thought the giants also got a genuine superstar too.........oh wait a minute

[Return to Glory 8,448]

Apparently Phat Phil Sculls had been diligently doing his job all year. Finally, passed an old building invoice on to Silvani and there, written in crayon, were the words 'take Tom Boyd 1' and underneath '100 grand please'.