I take offence to this.

Gin and tonics are fantastic drinks.

To say nothing of hunting pheasants. Or plucking them afterwards.

Too many "Gin and Tonic" swilling pheasant hunters around the place in those days. Takes a long time to weed out that culture. Not enough of the"roll the sleeves up and get the hands dirty" types which is why we haven't won a flag since 1964. Hopefully more culture change for us coming up soon and then we may taste some success.

Ones not allowed to roll up one's sleeves in the long room old chap.

One problem is that I think Norm Smith was still there when Sheedy went down to training in 1965 or 1966 and was dismissed. So I wouldn't be blaming the G&T boys. Odd that he didn't pick up Sheeds potential as a hard arsed centre man to replace Barass just when we needed leadership. I think there were still some decent players running around post 1964 but lacking leadership. I can think of Hassa Mann, Townsend, Johnston, Vagg to name a few. However it would not have stopped the rot over time.

Finally opened this thread from Bali.

I'm having a drink.

My god! How cliche am I - it's a G&T.

Too many "Gin and Tonic" swilling pheasant hunters around the place in those days. Takes a long time to weed out that culture. Not enough of the"roll the sleeves up and get the hands dirty" types which is why we haven't won a flag since 1964. Hopefully more culture change for us coming up soon and then we may taste some success.

So that's why we haven't won a flag since 1964! I've been wasting my time on Demonland reading about our poor recruiting, poor coaching and poor player skills.

All starts from decent admin structure hence the transformation that is going on now. Poor admin means poor recruiters being chosen, poor coaches appointed and poor players being recruited to the club.

So that's why we haven't won a flag since 1964! I've been wasting my time on Demonland reading about our poor recruiting, poor coaching and poor player skills.

& you missed the bit about Culture?

how did you miss that

All starts from decent admin structure hence the transformation that is going on now. Poor admin means poor recruiters being chosen, poor coaches appointed and poor players being recruited to the club.

& I think this is why the AFL are having a hands on approach to the Mfc, whilst keeping the madhatter wannabe's at bay.

Why do we care about this?

Be interesting to see if he gets rookied, probably not but you have to think what might have been if he didn't get that knee injury in the nab cup a few years ago.

He seemed to be doing a bit better up until then but he stopped in his tracks after it.

but you have to think what might have been if he didn't get that knee injury in the nab cup a few years ago.

No I don't have to think; I know. The good judges rated this guy before his 10th game.

Case long closed.

Great news we can get him back for a song now!

:rolleyes:

We should re-rookie Cale Morton, and then swap him for Bontempelli when the bulldogs aren't looking.

They'd never know. Identical build.

Talking about knee injuries...How many games has Tom $cully missed for GW$ because of his bad knee??

What a joke that was....we were treated with complete disdain by the AFL for that shite...

A 9 week knee injury.....SURE. That is why $cully has an attitude problem and always will

He agreed to all that sham during 2011

I'd re-rookie the Cale Morton of 2008 and 2009.

I wouldn't go near the Cale Morton of 2012

No hanged don't have to think; I know. The good judges rated this guy before his 10th game.

Case long closed.

Yes and they rated him highly. First year saw multiple 20+ possession games and five games I think where he kicked multiple goals. Oh and he picked up 4 votes in the Charlie. Who the hell really complained back then.

Sad thing for cale is that the game changed from free flowing back to contested and he was found wanting. He still gave is best more than most know and was continually crucified by his own 'supporters'

Unfort

Unfor

Talking about knee injuries...How many games has Tom $cully missed for GW$ because of his bad knee??

What a joke that was....we were treated with complete disdain by the AFL for that shite...

A 9 week knee injury.....SURE. That is why $cully has an attitude problem and always will

He agreed to all that sham during 2011

I don't know who you're talking about.

Why do we care about this?

We are very caring people in Demonland

Yes and they rated him highly. First year saw multiple 20+ possession games and five games I think where he kicked multiple goals. Oh and he picked up 4 votes in the Charlie. Who the hell really complained back then.

If you took off you rose-coloured glasses, and stopped clapping so loud, you might have heard the negative doomday forecasts about Cale.

Players come and go but there will always be the mighty dees, as the old song goes, should old aqantance be forgot keep your eye on the red and the blue.

Diagree with all your points Stuie. 1. We chose this kid before Dangerfield and Rioli based on his Larke Medal effort. 2. He ran away from Lade, pure and simple, you can put any spin you want on it. 3. I watched the guy live for 5 years, he had the odd game where he ran & created space but fair dinkum , he never got involved enough or layed a tackle of any substance ever. None of that is made up champ, it is simply my opinion on what I observed. Anyway agree with most lets Move On. Brad Dalzeil anyone?

you are completely and utterly wrong

There is an image out there of Josh Hunt carrying Cale Morton like a bag of wheat. That photo is probably more indicative of why Cale didn't succeed at AFL level as opposed to that Brendon Lade footage.

This one?

This one?

love it

This one?

The one and the same. One is a tanned, muscled, fully grown man found in most football clubs aspiring to be top eight. The other looks like a human pipe cleaner or walking frigging penis.