Go hawks!!!!

He's really stepped up mate, a real Swans player and that's high praise.

They have about 5 who play exactly the same way. He was lucky to play early on with blokes who could show him the way to play a role. That's the challenge for the Dees - having role models on the field.

Go hawks!!!!

Seriously?

Go hawks!!!!

Not for me 'old dee', used to have a soft spot for the Hawks, trained down at the Glenferrie oval gym, played junior and school footy with a few of their ex champs but they just p....me off these days. The Cats for me.

Go hawks!!!!

No.

Almost the top of my hate list.

ANZ Stadium is a disgrace.

The AFL is borderline putting player safety at risk by subjecting them to the woefully sub-standard surface.

A paltry crowd of 37,000 means there is no justification any longer for continuing to play games at that soulless piece of junk.

The sooner the AFL leaves ANZ Stadium to the NRL, the better.

ANZ Stadium is a disgrace.

The AFL is borderline putting player safety at risk by subjecting them to the woefully sub-standard surface.

A paltry crowd of 37,000 means there is no justification any longer for continuing to play games at that soulless piece of junk.

The sooner the AFL leaves ANZ Stadium to the NRL, the better.

Agree with you here mate. The injuries from tonights game and the leg soreness from the surface really give Freo an unfair advantage even if the travel was not bad enough. I think the players association need to step in, this wasn't a fit surface to play AFL football on. Can't wait to here the spin.

Any AFL games from now on need to be at the SCG.

Anyone watch Breaking Bad? The name Jesse White gives me a bit of a chuckle.

I'm just waiting for a Walter Pinkman to get drafted.

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I'm probably not alone here, but I'm holding out some hope that Sydney can beat Freo next week, while Geelong continue their hoodoo over Hawthorn. It'd then be ideal, but highly unlikely, that Sydney then beat Geelong in the big one.

I'm hoping that given Freo have never made a Grand Final, they will be very nervous next week. Similarly, I trust Geelong still have the psychological edge over Hawthorn.

Anyone watch Breaking Bad? The name Jesse White gives me a bit of a chuckle.

I'm just waiting for a Walter Pinkman to get drafted.

I'm easily more excited by the looming finale episode of BB than I am of the Grand Final.

Agree with you here mate. The injuries from tonights game and the leg soreness from the surface really give Freo an unfair advantage even if the travel was not bad enough. I think the players association need to step in, this wasn't a fit surface to play AFL football on. Can't wait to here the spin.

Any AFL games from now on need to be at the SCG.

Not while the chairman of the AFL and his cronies own the ground. Reminiscent of Ron Evans and his Spotless having the catering rights at AFL grounds.

The Sydney Swans have made my weekend. It was just fantastic to watch their players run rings around Carlton's much vaunted midfield.

When you look at the debate raging around our own inadequate midfield division it's worth considering that those Swans players who dominated last night were not, by and large, top 10 draft picks but they were instead turned into top 10 running midfielders by a very solid development system and we now have the coach who has in his hands, the keys to turning ours into something like that.

Anyone watch Breaking Bad? The name Jesse White gives me a bit of a chuckle.

I'm just waiting for a Walter Pinkman to get drafted.

'Jesse Pinckman' has posted a spoiler tweet showing him in bed with Walt and Skylar. Didn't pick that.

Not while the chairman of the AFL and his cronies own the ground. Reminiscent of Ron Evans and his Spotless having the catering rights at AFL grounds.

Lets see what happens if any players take action on an unsafe workplace. I think they are within their rights.

Lets see what happens if any players take action on an unsafe workplace. I think they are within their rights.

Sorry rjay........60's 70's 80's, players played on mud heaps with cricket pitches quagmires in the centre

Now one ground is a bit slippery and all hell brakes out........They surely have to toughen up......or wear appropriate footwear...

Sorry rjay........60's 70's 80's, players played on mud heaps with cricket pitches quagmires in the centre

Now one ground is a bit slippery and all hell brakes out........They surely have to toughen up......or wear appropriate footwear...

No...it is a lot different to those grounds. I played on a lot of those mud heaps and have come off grounds having to walk through water up to waist deep but in all cases you were either down on all 4's in the mud or upright with your feet stuck. Slippery surfaces were always a bit tricky but long stops helped. Also the game was slowed down by the heavy conditions, some of the grounds were so heavy we were lucky to kick a ball more than 10mtrs before the next contest.

This ground is a whole different story, it's not that it's slippery, your stops dig in and then the ground shifts from underneath. I don't remember playing on a ground like that.

Best grand final between Hawthorn and Fremantle.The other 2 just don't seem to cut it.

No...it is a lot different to those grounds. I played on a lot of those mud heaps and have come off grounds having to walk through water up to waist deep but in all cases you were either down on all 4's in the mud or upright with your feet stuck. Slippery surfaces were always a bit tricky but long stops helped. Also the game was slowed down by the heavy conditions, some of the grounds were so heavy we were lucky to kick a ball more than 10mtrs before the next contest.

This ground is a whole different story, it's not that it's slippery, your stops dig in and then the ground shifts from underneath. I don't remember playing on a ground like that.

Take your point....I remember playing one day where I was eye to eye with a frog....

The grounds of yore were not thin cosmetic carpets of turf laid upon sand.

The old surfaces involved grasses with deeper root growth and thus had a degree of stability.

Even in the worst of mud at least there was traction.

Take your point....I remember playing one day where I was eye to eye with a frog....

Yeah, we used to play on some beauties, didn't we.

Trying to kick the ball off the ground and it wouldn't move more than an inch if you were lucky, the kids that grew up in the drought years were never lucky enough to see let alone play in those conditions.

No change of balls back then either . Impossible to kick more than about 30 mtrs after the first quarter.

very true bbo, but that was 41AD. you should check your details better

Ok DC, I have carried out some exhaustive research, including access to Biffen’s private document library at the Gat. Here are my conclusions which I think can be considered definitive. The Giants were more properly called the Phillistines which, of course became shortened to the Phillies. This name was also adopted by a later New World team which was far more successful and rich but were often confused with the originals.

Further, many commentators, yourself included I believe, fell into the trap of thinking the Jerusalem Alpacas merged with the Camels. A patently untrue and insidious assertion.

David, however, the villain of the piece, ironically, went on to a very successful political career. Goliath, the unfortunate recipient of the behind the play incident, was never the same again – A bit like John Greening of the filth.

Seriously?

Very serious RtG

The hawks represent every thing the MFC has not been for 40 years.

Love em or hate em

that is what I want to Dees to be.

Win first in the middle and last but win.

Every thing else is the MFC

Very serious RtG

The hawks represent every thing the MFC has not been for 40 years.

Love em or hate em

that is what I want to Dees to be.

Win first in the middle and last but win.

Every thing else is the MFC

Please excuse me whilst I go be sick...