yep

actually WADA !!

As I said earlier, WADA knowledge. 1 year ban. A fill in team for 1 year. It is possible. The AFL would have no say in penalty.

Woof is right.

Does that mean that Richmond can finish 8th again?

This is rumour not fact 360 Robbo.

As I said earlier, WADA knowledge. 1 year ban. A fill in team for 1 year. It is possible. The AFL would have no say in penalty.

Woof is right.

Does that mean that Richmond can finish 8th again?

This is rumour not fact 360 Robbo.

that is not quite true technically

asada don't actually give the penalties, they leave it up to the sports body in question

in practice though the sports body generally adopt the standard wada/asada penalties

this I wonder, if its a lot to do with Demitriou's retirement, & if he'll do the dirty work on all the scum, on his way out the door. then fight from a distance against any retaliation from the have you heard backers.

Oh i heard all this stuff before Ad';s retirement announcement. I think the Essendon situation has hastened his exit but that is all. AD in my view still is trying to sort through all this in the best interests of the Game. It is Hird (egged-on by his lawyer wife) who has made this outcome so much worse than it need be, not least for Hird himself. She may be a good lawyer, but she has no idea of how to play the political game, and no idea about how to get the best outcome for her husband. By her actions, she has condemned him to obscurity. He will never work again in the AFL industry.

that is not quite true technically

asada don't actually give the penalties, they leave it up to the sports body in question

in practice though the sports body generally adopt the standard wada/asada penalties

Thanks for the clarification, has any sporting body not adopted the penalties? Then what?

Thanks for the clarification, has any sporting body not adopted the penalties? Then what?

not sure but i seem to remember so.....and then wada come into it with a big stick

not sure but i seem to remember so.....and then wada come into it with a big stick

That is my understanding too. So effectively they are WADA penalties not the AFL's but the AFL carries them out or else. Sorry I took the short cut with "The AFL would have no say in penalty". Perhaps I should have said " the AFL would have little say in the penalties"

WADA/ASADA are the judiciary

the AFL , the executioner

WADA/ASADA are the judiciary

the AFL , the executioner

Still no charges bb.

Suggest you don't get too excited just yet.

watched 360 monday night[yes i know]

i could be wrong,buuuuuut i detected the dons are copping it before the end of april.

i dont know how to "link".if you listen to vlads comments and read between some of those lines.

hope some of you can listen to this and tell me im wrong,but i definitley thought he said gone by the end of april.

i hope andy D and the AFL let Essendon burn. Essendons conduct has been nothing short of disgraceful and they deserve to have the entire book thrown at them, while andy D and co watch on and throw their own books.

watched 360 monday night[yes i know]

i could be wrong,buuuuuut i detected the dons are copping it before the end of april.

i dont know how to "link".if you listen to vlads comments and read between some of those lines.

hope some of you can listen to this and tell me im wrong,but i definitley thought he said gone by the end of april.

I think they said that Justice Garry Downes, has until the end of April to complete his review of the ASADA briefs.

Oh i heard all this stuff before Ad';s retirement announcement. I think the Essendon situation has hastened his exit but that is all. AD in my view still is trying to sort through all this in the best interests of the Game. It is Hird (egged-on by his lawyer wife) who has made this outcome so much worse than it need be, not least for Hird himself. She may be a good lawyer, but she has no idea of how to play the political game, and no idea about how to get the best outcome for her husband. By her actions, she has condemned him to obscurity. He will never work again in the AFL industry.

Well he has another 2 year contract at a million plus a year. Looking pretty good to me.

Well he has another 2 year contract at a million plus a year. Looking pretty good to me.

Wish my wife could come up with that crappy deal for me.

I think they said that Justice Garry Downes, has until the end of April to complete his review of the ASADA briefs.

That is my understanding too hardtack.

Of course Justice Downes may say " not good enough" no charges to be laid.

Wish my wife could come up with that crappy deal for me.

My wife would be a genius if she could get me half that.

PS. Make that a quarter.

Well he has another 2 year contract at a million plus a year. Looking pretty good to me.

i'd be surprised if there wasn't a few get-out clauses in that new contract

My wife would be a genius if she could get me half that.

PS. Make that a quarter.

a quarter accepted when do I start?

i'd be surprised if there wasn't a few get-out clauses in that new contract

This is Essendon we are talking about dc

The clause if probably 1.5 pa if terminated early.

That is my understanding too hardtack.

Of course Justice Downes may say " not good enough" no charges to be laid.

I wouldn't be surprised if the pressure is on him to find cause for infraction notices to be issued, as I think that ASADA won't want to be put in a position where they could be considered toothless, the govt will want a result that will send a message to all sporting bodies, and the AFL will want their previous action of charging Essendon with bringing the game into disrepute to be validated (could Essendon take action against them in the courts if no infraction notices are forthcoming?).

I wouldn't be surprised if the pressure is on him to find cause for infraction notices to be issued, as I think that ASADA won't want to be put in a position where they could be considered toothless, the govt will want a result that will send a message to all sporting bodies, and the AFL will want their previous action of charging Essendon with bringing the game into disrepute to be validated (could Essendon take action against them in the courts if no infraction notices are forthcoming?).

Once the pollies get involved anything can happen hardtack.

I know someone reasonable close to the Federal political scene they suggest that what the Feds don't want is notices issued that are challengeable in court.

They don't want to have to allocate more money to ASADA, in fact they would like to cut back.

My understanding is that as far as possible they only want infraction notices issued that are as iron clad as possible.

I will be surprised if the notices go ahead.

But hell I have been told things in the past that turn out to have been kite flying.

Now I await the someone who will counter with...ahh but....the AFL already stripped them of points for 2013.

my counter-counter is that that was NOT for any antipdoping offence per se. Once WADA/SADA start pinging players then theres a NEW felony to punish.

Yes penalties were for governance breaches and bringing the game into disrepute (which would be hard to argue against). However they do set an interesting benchmark in terms of severity of penalties. One assumes club penalties for systematic doping would be considerably harsher.

i'd be surprised if there wasn't a few get-out clauses in that new contract

This is Essendon we are talking about dc

The clause if probably 1.5 pa if terminated early.

They've probably lost the paperwork anyway or didn't keep records.

They've probably lost the paperwork anyway or didn't keep records.

When the boot is on the other foot rjay Hird will have everything iron clad.

I think they said that Justice Garry Downes, has until the end of April to complete his review of the ASADA briefs.

if you can get vlads comments word for word,it sounds pretty much all over for the bombers.

unless ive misinterpreted.

if you can get vlads comments word for word,it sounds pretty much all over for the bombers.

unless ive misinterpreted.

Your guess is as good as anyone's jazza.

I fluctuate from day to day, I have to keep reminding myself "is this what you want to read or is it actually the reverse?"