3-4 years ago, we were ahead of Richmond in almost all areas on and off the field..(membership excluded) 3 years on to the day and MFC get belted by the youngest and newest club in the AFL and Richmond destroy the mighty hawks.. Can someone pls explain how this has happen?

It's as simple as we said no to Hardwick and Richmond said yes.

We didnt realise then that most of our players are peahearts

Cotchin, Deledio & Martin versus Trengove, Sylvia & Grimes.

That's where it's at.

Simple as we backed in incompletent Schwab and they got gale/hardwick.

It's as simple as we said no to Hardwick and Richmond said yes.

Probably a bit too simplistic. Who is to say, really, given our pi55weak club culture, that Hardwick would have mede any difference. Schwab was still with us.

We have been run by monkeys who know nothing about football and what it takes to have a strong successful side.

Wrong decisions followed by bad judgment followed by poor/no leadership followed by in house fighting. Every facet of this club has been a disaster and now it's up to the AFL to help one of its kiddies. Embarrassing and disgraceful really!

Who would you rather be right now?

A) A Melbourne supporter

B) A Richmond supporter

We need to get off field right for once and for all! PJ goodluck buddy.. It's now or never

Probably a bit too simplistic. Who is to say, really, given our pi55weak club culture, that Hardwick would have mede any difference. Schwab was still with us.

Fair point. Still believe it would have made a significant difference though. Certainly couldn't see Hardwick agreeing to tank.

BAD MANAGEMENT

That's what it all comes down to.

B- Richmond! Belting our yellow and black at the "g" on the way to the finals! Instead of sitting at home , [censored] off and grumpy

Get stuff to all the monkeys who are causing the in fighting! Lose your ego and do what's right for the club! Maybe Paul Roos article was directed towards this?

A few years ago all the experts and journalists were unanimous to us the being the next big thing. They were sucked in by Schwabs press releases and passing them on as their expert opinion. Frauds the lot of them.

My God we are an insipid team. I've been thinking about the key moments of the game and keep coming back to the boys being reactive rather than proactive. So shite scared of failure that they go into their shells and don't take the game on.

It almost goes beyond skill level and goes to personality type. We seem to have a huge deficit in arrogant f#cks. I know they lost today, but the Hawks are chock full of them.

that Yellow and Black chant is very alluring isnt it.

I did enjoy listening to it just before on tv.

SUNS membership to surpass Dees next year!

It almost goes beyond skill level and goes to personality type. We seem to have a huge deficit in arrogant f#cks. I know they lost today, but the Hawks are chock full of them.

Might have to get Ben Hur to pull on the boots.

Now the blow torch has to be put firmly on the players. Neeld copped it and has gone, the pres and CEO has gone so now the heat has to be put on this group of players. There is no one left to blame but them.

Some of the older stagers on here will say the problems stretch back to Neale Daniher. I respectfully disagree.

At the end of 2007, the club had reached a fork in the road and it was time for them to rebuild. Lots of clubs have done this (Bulldogs 2005, Collingwood 2006, Hawthorn 2005, Sydney replenish their stocks progressively each year). Instead of doing the traditional thing and give the kids gametime when they deserved it, we pizzed all our senior players off. We viewed our high draft picks as an end, not a means to an end and didn't create an environment where they had to bust a gut to get a game. We had a CEO and one of his cronies think they could run the football department better than the coach and proceeded to undermine him until he lost his job. We then get a coach who was patently unqualified to take on the job he was given (Paul Roos/Bomber Thompson could have turned our culture around as they wouldn't have had to learn on the job) and the club became bedlam.

Yup, I think that about covers it!

Cotchin, Deledio & Martin versus Trengove, Sylvia & Grimes.

That's where it's at.

exactly right

it's not the picks were wrong but they were actually able develop their high draft picks into genuine talent and we weren't

Before anything else this team neads some heart and soul. Very little celebration after goals, or general encouragement pumping each other up. None of the players really stand up for each other when there's a little bit of biff. Try putting Jimmy Bartel or Cyril Rioli on their arse and see what's coming to you.... Need a coach to bring the team together, rather than a trying (or not trying) to develop individuals. Probably doesn't help when half the team are up for de-listing each year (not that I want to defend players).

Richmond's captain is one of the absolute elite midfielders in the competition. We have a couple of plodders that, right now, would struggle to get a run in any other team.

We need genuine guns leading this team out on the field. Players that inspire. That would be a good start.

3-4 years ago, we were ahead of Richmond in almost all areas on and off the field..(membership excluded) 3 years on to the day and MFC get belted by the youngest and newest club in the AFL and Richmond destroy the mighty hawks.. Can someone pls explain how this has happen?

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/mfc-2009-list-by-age-bracket.536452/

Might have to get Ben Hur to pull on the boots.

He might have to tick a few other boxes.