A bit misleading there CFH. "Clarifying" is not the same as "changing", and when a print journo writes the words 'it also emerged', they are more often than not drawing a long bow to the truth.

Yeah you are right. A bit too many scotch's last night and I was quick to draw a very long bow.

I must say I think it somewhat embarrassing to be discussing another club "in crisis" after our stunning performance yesterday at Etihad but here goes (and I am resorting to Demonland's favourite pastime - speculation) ...

There must be something more going on under the surface at Essendon than what we already know. Evans said on Thursday night after leaving the Essendon board meeting that he was off to dinner and that it definitely wasn't a "farewell dinner". Forty-eight hours later, he bids the Bombers farewell.

Now, he doesn't strike me as the type who would desert a sinking ship but that sort of behaviour suggests that he's taken the first or second lifeboat off the Titanic (and never mind the women and the children). What happened in those 48 hours to make him change his mind, especially given that we are two weeks away from the announcement of the results of the ASADA investigation?

I can't help but think this has something to do with the evidence ASADA has in its hands which some people felt might be instrumental in getting Essendon and its players off the hook.

"We just want this investigation to be finished"

"This is affecting a lot of peoples lives".

Yeah well,,

Suck it up Drug pusher.

May the Essendon FC and its members RIP

I must say I think it somewhat embarrassing to be discussing another club "in crisis" after our stunning performance yesterday at Etihad but here goes (and I am resorting to Demonland's favourite pastime - speculation) ...

There must be something more going on under the surface at Essendon than what we already know. Evans said on Thursday night after leaving the Essendon board meeting that he was off to dinner and that it definitely wasn't a "farewell dinner". Forty-eight hours later, he bids the Bombers farewell.

Now, he doesn't strike me as the type who would desert a sinking ship but that sort of behaviour suggests that he's taken the first or second lifeboat off the Titanic (and never mind the women and the children). What happened in those 48 hours to make him change his mind, especially given that we are two weeks away from the announcement of the results of the ASADA investigation?

I can't help but think this has something to do with the evidence ASADA has in its hands which some people felt might be instrumental in getting Essendon and its players off the hook.

Don't you know about the Hird?

Well, everybody knows that the hird is the word

A-well-a, hird, hird, h-hird's the word

A-well-a

A-well-a, everybody's heard about the hird

Hird, hird, hird, h-hird's the word

Evans is being made out to be another victim in this saga. The rubbish statement made by Hamish Mclachlan on game day makes Evans out to be Jesus. Ummm Evans is/was the bloke in charge of a club who is up poo creek in a drugs scandal. Is anyone going to actually be found to be guilty or put their hand up that they were at fault? Or did the bombers players allegedly just trip over onto a pile of PED's?

I must say I think it somewhat embarrassing to be discussing another club "in crisis" after our stunning performance yesterday at Etihad but here goes (and I am resorting to Demonland's favourite pastime - speculation) ...

There must be something more going on under the surface at Essendon than what we already know. Evans said on Thursday night after leaving the Essendon board meeting that he was off to dinner and that it definitely wasn't a "farewell dinner". Forty-eight hours later, he bids the Bombers farewell.

Now, he doesn't strike me as the type who would desert a sinking ship but that sort of behaviour suggests that he's taken the first or second lifeboat off the Titanic (and never mind the women and the children). What happened in those 48 hours to make him change his mind, especially given that we are two weeks away from the announcement of the results of the ASADA investigation?

I can't help but think this has something to do with the evidence ASADA has in its hands which some people felt might be instrumental in getting Essendon and its players off the hook.

To be fair, the original title of the thread was "david evans resigns". Got changed/merged by mods

hilarious ..

rats....ships..

man the lifeboats...women, children but cheats first !!!

I hate Essendon nearly as much as Carlton, but I don't get pleasure out of a 45 year old mans health suffering so much he needs to stand down from the presidency of a club he loves.

There have been terrible mistakes made at Essendon, but I feel for someone such as Evans, who in a voluntary capacity merely tried to serve his club.

To be fair, the original title of the thread was "david evans resigns". Got changed/merged by mods

They are sneaky little things those admin/mods LOL

I hate Essendon nearly as much as Carlton, but I don't get pleasure out of a 45 year old mans health suffering so much he needs to stand down from the presidency of a club he loves.

There have been terrible mistakes made at Essendon, but I feel for someone such as Evans, who in a voluntary capacity merely tried to serve his club.

get real..make your bed...lay in it

get real..make your bed...lay in it

Your triumphalism is grossly misplaced. But hardly surprising.

Supporters of a crap club love the misfortunes that befalls others.

Your triumphalism is grossly misplaced. But hardly surprising.

Supporters of a crap club love the misfortunes that befalls others.

Is there any danger that you'll let go of the wise Buddha routine. It's like your posting from a yoga mat in Treasury Gardens.

Supporters of a crap club love the misfortunes that befalls others.

You said it!

And it couldn't happen to a nicer club. I'm bitter enough to remember Michael Long on Troy Simmonds.

Your triumphalism is grossly misplaced. But hardly surprising.

Supporters of a crap club love the misfortunes that befalls others.

If you mean MFC as a crap club well its my understand it is now undergoing a major rebuild/restructure.

Sure this years a write off but with the right people in the right jobs the on field results will improve greatly.

So all I ask is please don't insult the Club I support and am a member of, as I always give back much more to those who try and I would rather do that to supporters of other Clubs.

MFC First & Forever!

I hate Essendon nearly as much as Carlton, but I don't get pleasure out of a 45 year old mans health suffering so much he needs to stand down from the presidency of a club he loves.

There have been terrible mistakes made at Essendon, but I feel for someone such as Evans, who in a voluntary capacity merely tried to serve his club.

'Ben', I don't like what's happening to the game at the moment and I don't get any pleasure from the Essendon situation. However I'm not sure I can be so understanding of Evans position, I think he has had a blind faith in the coach who has let him down badly and that's the best I can say for him.

I feel angry about the lies that have been told throughout this whole saga starting from the sham of a press conference back in February and I think a lot of damage has been done to the game as a whole. Evans played his part in this and had to step down, Hird has to go next and should have been the first out the door.

I hate Essendon nearly as much as Carlton, but I don't get pleasure out of a 45 year old mans health suffering so much he needs to stand down from the presidency of a club he loves.

There have been terrible mistakes made at Essendon, but I feel for someone such as Evans, who in a voluntary capacity merely tried to serve his club.

Agree Ben, there is no pleasure in seeing someone get so stressed that their health suffers from a voluntary office. None of us know what Evans knew and to see him getting sick from trying to save his club is sad.

BTW I could never hate any other club as much as I hate Carlton.

James Hird said at the beginning of the investigation that he took full responsibility. Why has he not resigned with Evans and Robson.

My view has been all along that the Bomber will get punished big time for this from the AFL.

I am unsure whether they have been proved to have breached the drug codes, that will come out soon.

What I find despicable is that they have made players have injections, that may have long term side effects and that even today they are unable to definitively tell their players what they took and the possible side effects attached. That deserves everything that the AFL can throw at them, which IMO has to include multiple years of lost draft picks and the heaviest fine possible, together with other sanctions.

James Hird said at the beginning of the investigation that he took full responsibility. Why has he not resigned with Evans and Robson.

Didn't you know? He had his fingers and legs crossed when he said it.

They are sneaky little things those admin/mods LOL

Happens when three new threads on what's essentially the same subject are opened up within a few hours of each other.

There have been terrible mistakes made at Essendon, but I feel for someone such as Evans, who in a voluntary capacity merely tried to serve his club.

And much the same could be said of some of our own who were pilloried by many around here and elsewhere earlier this year.

No supporter on this forum can say without doubt that Hird has done the wrong thing. However, events such as the catch up with Charters at Jupiters Casino and the other choices made regarding associations ie dodgy South Yarra doctor, surely make his position ultimately untenable. I do feel for David Evans but I certainly don't feel for a coach whom I suspect believes in his own invincibility rather than the reality around him.

Now the weapon is going to tell all on hird in an interview with Like Darcy on ch7 news.

is it sort of funny in a bizarre twisted way that Hird the golden boy is twisted up in a drugs saga. I guess we just saw him as a perfect footballer and an all round nice guy who could never do anything wrong.

In an ideal world:

- golden boy banned from football

- board sacked en masse

- bombers stripped of all premiership points in 2013

- banned from finals footy this year

- Jobe stripped of 2012 Brownlow

- withheld from first two rounds of 2013 draft

- fined in the region of $1-2m

Further measures could see them banned from 2014 draft, stripped of any points in 2014.

If the players are banned from the competition for 6-24 months, the bombers may be withheld from the competition for 2014/15 and weekly byes re instituted, but that would be extreme to say the least.