The Trade/Draft Rumour Mill

[jnrmac 20,065]

Think fair to say we have shut up shop for this years trade period.

Hopefully this is a start of a positive year next year.

You're kidding? there is plenty still happening....

[DemonOX 8,791]

You're kidding? there is plenty still happening....

Like ???????

[P-man 13,366]

He didn't want to come to us as someone said before. No point wasting pick 2 on someone that doesn't want to come to the club.

Tyson wanted to come to us and for that he has my full respect.

What Tyson wanted was to come home, and the club made that happen.

Now the process of draining out his Richmond blood begins..

[Little Goffy 14,545]

Seriously, If GWS think Shaw is of equivalent value to Adams, or worth a five year deal in itself, they have some issues.

I'm suspicious of an externality here. I.e., a technically illegal forward agreement.

Also, this all kind of makes a mockery of Eddie's ranting about how Collingwood will 'come after' GWS if they try to poach the Pies' players.

I'm still holding out hope that GWS will offer Buntine and a pick for Dunn.

[Little Richard 6,262]

Seriously, If GWS think Shaw is of equivalent value to Adams, or worth a five year deal in itself, they have some issues.

I'm suspicious of an externality here. I.e., a technically illegal forward agreement.

Also, this all kind of makes a mockery of Eddie's ranting about how Collingwood will 'come after' GWS if they try to poach the Pies' players.

I'm still holding out hope that GWS will offer Buntine and a pick for Dunn.

Somebody made a good point earlier - GWS' hand were forced as Adams was not going to agree to a trade to any other club.

Therefore GWS could let him walk for free or trade for Shaw, the lesser blow. Of course they could have threatened to pick up Adams in the PSD with their pick but that would be a pointless action; there'd be too much dissent between the parties and GWS would be wasting a valuable pick.

[P-man 13,366]

Shaw will love it at GWS. Being able to shout at all those kids til his throat is hoarse. Ah, bliss.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Seriously, If GWS think Shaw is of equivalent value to Adams, or worth a five year deal in itself, they have some issues.

I'm suspicious of an externality here. I.e., a technically illegal forward agreement.

Also, this all kind of makes a mockery of Eddie's ranting about how Collingwood will 'come after' GWS if they try to poach the Pies' players.

I'm still holding out hope that GWS will offer Buntine and a pick for Dunn.

I'd settle for Lamb.

[Little Richard 6,262]

Shaw will love it at GWS. Being able to shout at all those kids til his throat is hoarse. Ah, bliss.

As well as take them out to all the 'enjoyable' spots on Kings Cross.

[CatFishPig 454]

As well as take them out to all the 'enjoyable' spots on Kings Cross.

Didak can drive them all around in a mini van...

[Machsy 2,858]

Seriously, If GWS think Shaw is of equivalent value to Adams, or worth a five year deal in itself, they have some issues.

I'm suspicious of an externality here. I.e., a technically illegal forward agreement.

Also, this all kind of makes a mockery of Eddie's ranting about how Collingwood will 'come after' GWS if they try to poach the Pies' players.

I'm still holding out hope that GWS will offer Buntine and a pick for Dunn.

GWS are getting a player of Shaw's calibre, but at a discount price as Colligwood are paying a portion of his salary the next 2 years.

That makes it a fair bargain for GWS, because going forward they'll have more cap room to bring in another under the same circumstances.

And they run the risk of being like us the last 6 years - lots of talented directionless kids, and few solid veterans to guide them.

[old55 23,573]

GWS are getting a player of Shaw's calibre, but at a discount price as Colligwood are paying a portion of his salary the next 2 years.

That makes it a fair bargain for GWS, because going forward they'll have more cap room to bring in another under the same circumstances.

And they run the risk of being like us the last 6 years - lots of talented directionless kids, and few solid veterans to guide them.

GWS are truly desperate for experienced talent - they've taken on Josh Hunt!

Collingwood had them over a barrel - they had to close the Shaw deal and Adams wanted to go to the Pies.

When Collingwood had only 6, 10 and 67 there's was no capacity for a pick upgrade sweetener.

[old55 23,573]

All trade roads lead to Brisbane now (except for maybe Gumby to Freo). Five players to trade - Polec (Port/Crows), Longer (Saints), Yeo (WC), Docherty (Carlton or maybe Essendon), Karnezis (Collingwood or maybe North).

Looks like they'll end up with picks in the 20s or early 30s for all of them except maybe Paine for Karnezis.

We may be able to get involved with a player for one of those picks so they don't have to go to the draft with all of them.

[reynolds46 1,237]

GWS are truly desperate for experienced talent - they've taken on Josh Hunt!

Collingwood had them over a barrel - they had to close the Shaw deal and Adams wanted to go to the Pies.

When Collingwood had only 6, 10 and 67 there's was no capacity for a pick upgrade sweetener.

looks like a scattergun approach

[old55 23,573]

looks like a scattergun approach

I think they'll be better with Mumford, Shaw, Hunt and Lamb. I read that their target is 6 experienced bodies so they'll be looking for 2 more from somewhere before trade, delisted FA and draft is done.

[mauriesy 7,296]

Chapman: 'It was one of the criterias ...'

Probably lucky he plays football.

[old55 23,573]

All trade roads lead to Brisbane now (except for maybe Gumby to Freo). Five players to trade - Polec (Port/Crows), Longer (Saints), Yeo (WC), Docherty (Carlton or maybe Essendon), Karnezis (Collingwood or maybe North).

Looks like they'll end up with picks in the 20s or early 30s for all of them except maybe Paine for Karnezis.

We may be able to get involved with a player for one of those picks so they don't have to go to the draft with all of them.

Docherty to Carlton for 33.

[deeko 952]

looks like a scattergun approach

They need a scattergun approach as they need big bodies all over the ground, everywhere!

Our approach has been as good as we could have wanted without being greedy

[P-man 13,366]

I can't believe they've picked up Josh Hunt. That's a real wtf. Seriously, he was finished a while ago.

[Wormburner 674]

Docherty to Carlton for 33.

I reckon Blues did well out of that deal.

[Machsy 2,858]

GWS are truly desperate for experienced talent - they've taken on Josh Hunt!

Collingwood had them over a barrel - they had to close the Shaw deal and Adams wanted to go to the Pies.

When Collingwood had only 6, 10 and 67 there's was no capacity for a pick upgrade sweetener.

Yep, smart of Collingwood to trade away all their later picks in return for early pick upgrades.

Foolish of GWS to make announcements that Shaw was signed before the trade had been agreed.

[dazzledavey36 54,938]

Lions just lost Mitch Clark for nothing...lol

[Robbie57 2,020]

Any late surprises likely?

[Don24 103]

Lions just lost Mitch Clark for nothing...lol

you mean for pick 33

[dazzledavey36 54,938]

you mean for pick 33

We gave the lions pick 12 which they used for Docherty, Lions fans would be furious

Edited October 24, 2013 by dazzledavey36

[Forest Demon 4,681]

Lions just lost Mitch Clark for nothing...lol

Sort of like how Melbourne turned Pick 5 into Brock McLean, Brock McLean into Pick 11, Pick 11 into Jordan Gysberts, Jordan Gysberts into Cam Pedersen (with a downgrade inpicks in North's favour), with Pedersen clogging our list for 3 years. Would love to go through other trading and drafting flows and see if any club can top that.