Young talent: do NOT trade pick #2

[spirit of norm smith 16,292]

Likely we will have pick #2 in 2013 draft.

Whilst our player development is poor, I think we again need one of the best young mids coming through.

If you get a chance, get to watch some of Dominic Sheed (WA under 18s) against Tassie. He gets it in contests, runs, creates, takes players on, thumping left footer, and well built. Some has compared to Simon Black, but I think he is more like those type Swans mids.

A must GET. A leader. Ready to go round 1 2014.

footnote: pick #20 ish - Nathan Freeman (Sandringham), will be around this draft pick and is ready to go, tough, a leader and local kid.

Just wanted to REINFORCE the credentials of Dominic Sheed, captain of the WA under 18's.

Todays game vs. Vic Country, Sheed has 30 possessions again, 4 goals. BOG by a mile. Solid build , long kick, run, creates, takes on the game... is a STAR

[Cheesy D. Pun 1,762]

If he's pale and skinny ill spew

If we overlook Aish i'll spew up

If you guys are spewing, I'm spewing too. No one puts baby in the corner.

[DemonFrog 1,354]

We wont trade pick 2, as we will have a proper coach, a new head of football, the FD department will be restructured and everything will be in order..

The number 1 focus will be on player development.

But we are Melbourne! its our way to do things differently.

See how well its worked for us over the last 50 years!

[rpfc 28,263]

All the what ifs about Clark are neglecting the image of our pathetic midfield. It is a bare cupboard, not a cupboard full but with a few question marks.

Either simply pick mid(s) in the top 5 or trade down and try to grab someone on the way down.

This is not a Richmond - Tambling scenario. They did not have a Hogan coming through. They did not have a 25 year old bullocking workhorse at FF and an 25 year old athletic CHF (who does have a ? on his foot admittedly).

[Mickey 4,647]

Just wanted to REINFORCE the credentials of Dominic Sheed, captain of the WA under 18's.

Todays game vs. Vic Country, Sheed has 30 possessions again, 4 goals. BOG by a mile. Solid build , long kick, run, creates, takes on the game... is a STAR

Unfortunately for him, he also broke his collar bone. Out for 6-8.

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doesn't matter who we take the dees will take a potential star in the making then reduce him to a no body and yet the swans seem to do the opposite.......is that culture?

PAST culture , I hope.. Let's leave the negatives where they belong... In the past...

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Tough call that, his skills are sublime, he is the most elite kick of any first year player this year - by a space.

But he is a bit soft, but that is nearly understandable.

I wasn't a Toumpas fan, but I'd be leaning on keeping him, his skills are very good and he should be a player down the track.

Plus, he has media appeal, being Greek, he is an extremely likable kid and we need players that can get supporters on board.

Not sure any of the 2013 draft have the appeal of the Toump.

Andrew D likes him ? "Being Greek" ?? Not saying for one minute he wont make it but are we really needing to recruit players because of Culture, media appeal, being an extremely likeable kid and that can get supporters on board... I would rather have players who can play the game at the elite level are dedicated, capable of turning/winning games and maybe have NO media appeal.. Club culture change ??

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Unfortunately for him, he also broke his collar bone. Out for 6-8.

He would fit in well at MFC... Long term injury list... We need a few more like that ... (sarcastic)

[Its Time for Another 4,196]

Mark Neeld wanted Watts traded for North Melbournes second round draft pick which then would have went to the saints for Farren Ray. All the Melbourne Recruiters and list managers were gobsmacked at Neelds request and every single one of them went against him believing Watts is worth a first round top 10 draft pick.

True fact..

There has been comments in the press saying that Viney and Neeld were arguing over last year's draft. Do you know what that was about.

[praha 11,236]

Likely we will have pick #2 in 2013 draft.

Whilst our player development is poor, I think we again need one of the best young mids coming through.

If you get a chance, get to watch some of Dominic Sheed (WA under 18s) against Tassie. He gets it in contests, runs, creates, takes players on, thumping left footer, and well built. Some has compared to Simon Black, but I think he is more like those type Swans mids.

A must GET. A leader. Ready to go round 1 2014.

footnote: pick #20 ish - Nathan Freeman (Sandringham), will be around this draft pick and is ready to go, tough, a leader and local kid.

Why is it likely? Do you think GWS is more likely to finish last than Melbourne?

[Wormburner 674]

There has been comments in the press saying that Viney and Neeld were arguing over last year's draft. Do you know what that was about.

A mate of mine was talking to one of younger up and coming players and he said that everyone is wrapped MN is gone. Said there's a real buzz around the place since he's left. Also mentioned don't stress re players not signing, will be done shortly.

[ThreeOneSix 954]

A mate of mine was talking to one of younger up and coming players and he said that everyone is wrapped MN is gone. Said there's a real buzz around the place since he's left. Also mentioned don't stress re players not signing, will be done shortly.

That is good to hear, I think the stress of playing for a coach under fire alone - would be enough to get players down.

[spirit of norm smith 16,292]

Why is it likely? Do you think GWS is more likely to finish last than Melbourne?

We will finish above GWS ... no doubt.

[rjay 24,887]

We will finish above GWS ... no doubt.

Until yesterday that wasn't a given, now it seems more than likely. No matter what we take best available.

[ignition. 1,463]

SHEED is not worth pick 2, DUNSTAN is easily superior and if we want to make these ridiculous player comparisons I would say DUNSTAN plays like Mark RICCIUTO.

[Ted Lasso 19,311]

what about kelly? worth pick 2??

[Josh 1,420]

I would trade pick 2 for an established mid in a heart beat. Someone like Danger or Shuey. But those players will never be offered up so it's a non issue

[rjay 24,887]

SHEED is not worth pick 2, DUNSTAN is easily superior and if we want to make these ridiculous player comparisons I would say DUNSTAN plays like Mark RICCIUTO.

Sheed looked good the other day so looking forward to checking out Dunstan.

[Spirit of '87 333]

Are we still assuming that MFC will have pick 2, despite yesterday's win and the possibility of a few more wins by season's end?

[Maluski 24]

Team of the future:

FB McDonald, Frawley, ???

HB Terlich, Garland, Grimes

C Toumpas, N Jones, Viney

HF Dawes, Howe, ???

FF Watts, Clark, Hogan

Foll: Gawn, Trengove, ???

Subs: Fitzpatrick, Kent, ???

Possible young talent: Barry, Blease, Evans, Clisby, Spencer, Strauss, Tapscott, Nicholson (tagger)

Plenty of stocks of big men and young talent that may or may not come through.

What we really need is a genuine established midfield gun aged ~ 24-27 thats ready to go and who will provide leadership in the midfield.

I'd be happy to trade IF a suitable player is there to grab

[Dee-licious 1,949]

With Sheed out 6-8 he'll be off the table. He'll drop to 7-10 now. Dunstan or Kelly it will look like so far.

[rjay 24,887]

With Sheed out 6-8 he'll be off the table. He'll drop to 7-10 now. Dunstan or Kelly it will look like so far.

No, I don't think he will drop. The talent scouts will already have enough info to make a decision on him now, he may drop one or two places but a lot will depend on how the others around him perform, if they have some massive games.

[DeeSpencer 25,477]

With Sheed out 6-8 he'll be off the table. He'll drop to 7-10 now. Dunstan or Kelly it will look like so far.

Only the bad recruiters wouldn't have seen enough to make a call. Remember that Selwood bloke who didn't play much in his under 18 year!

[CBDees 3,167]

Everybody is saying that with the win over the Ndoggies we have blown all chances of a PP. Why? Has the criteria changed that much; it used to be that if you had under five wins for two consecutive years you were a Monty?

[rjay 24,887]

Everybody is saying that with the win over the Ndoggies we have blown all chances of a PP. Why? Has the criteria changed that much; it used to be that if you had under five wins for two consecutive years you were a Monty?

...and suddenly our list is looking alright, in a better position than the Doggies and the Saints. Last week we had the worst list in living memory, go figure. Funny thing about the media is they don't have any memory.