Stuie since your an expert at stat analysis can you explain to me how Essendon lost to the Lions yesterday - from what i saw Essenscum won all the stats

My point is you need to win the ball - and yes Neeld can be blamed for that.... quoting [censored] stats doesn't win the argument

Mate, I said we tackled more under Bailey, someone said "I call bulls#$t", so I posted the stats.

But you're right, stats, scores etc don't matter hey, Neeld is doing a great job....

Jay Clark ‏@ClarkyHeraldSun16m

Mark Neeld says Dees will take up to five years to rebuild. Mitch Clark says that comes as "a little bit" of a shock on @3AWisfootball

Neeld has gone ultra defensive with that stat but I believe what he says considering our form coming in to 2013.... I don' tthink (hope) we won't be super [censored] for another few years but if you look at teams like the Lions, Gold Coast and the Dogs it's not going to turn around overnight even with a new coach... that is for sure

Mate, I said we tackled more under Bailey, someone said "I call bulls#$t", so I posted the stats.

But you're right, stats, scores etc don't matter hey, Neeld is doing a great job....

Need to win the ball Stuie - how would you rate our ability at doing that for the last 4 years??

Do you think it is a coaches instruction to bomb the ball when in possession? I mean seriously look at the Bombers stats v the lions and explain how the lost

Lets get back to the thread title Stuie

From where we are now - how long do you realistically see the MFC being able to turn it around? Feel free to use stats

Need to win the ball Stuie - how would you rate our ability at doing that for the last 4 years??

Do you think it is a coaches instruction to bomb the ball when in possession? I mean seriously look at the Bombers stats v the lions and explain how the lost

See this thread if you want some stats mate...

http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/33904-bailey-v-neeld/

Port Adelaide did not take 5 years - just a preseason and they were below us.

Yes let's try a coach who can inspire our players!

Let's change our captain too as we know who has the grunt in them.

They haven't won the flag yet.

done

Neeld is trying to save his job, we should be competitive right now, there are no excuses, GWS are competitive on the most part, Gold coast who most considered us on par with are more than competitive

do everyone involved with Melbourne football club a favour and move him on.

Does that include his first 18 months?

I will not go to another game unless Neeld is sacked

Forget about the supporters.

Imagine if you were the marketing manager of a company that sponsors the club?

No one in their right mind wants to be part of an organisation that openly admits to being crap for 4-5 years. Like, literally comes out and say, "we'll be [censored] for the next 5 years".

Okay well figuratively but he may as well say that.

Jay Clark ‏@ClarkyHeraldSun16m

Mark Neeld says Dees will take up to five years to rebuild. Mitch Clark says that comes as "a little bit" of a shock on @3AWisfootball

Good to see we're all on the same page, good rss gracious me.

Perhaps Mark needs to get a lot better at saying nothing - like Allan Jeans.

Some of what Mark Neeld has said ...

"We will be the hardest team to play against"

"I will give you a game plan"

"Success may come a lot quicker that we think"

"Don't worry about the negative headlines, just focus on the club"

"You can expect these boys to be seriously competitive for longer this year"

"We didn't see that coming"

"Any of you people in the media got any ideas?"

"The players will need 3 or 4 years to learn the game plan"

"The players will need 3 full pre-seasons to get fit"

''Our aim is to be competitive for as long as we possibly can and that's where we're at,''

"It will take 3-5 years to get this team up to a competitive level"

"It will take up to 5 years to rebuild"

"We are at GWS level"

The guy said 2-3 years when he started - that is 1-2 max from now. A "reasonable expectation" when he arrived was that we would be playing OK (hate the word but "competitive") 2013 ie now, and really well by 2014.

I have been extremely patient and supportive but enough is enough.

MOVE ON MARK. You have lost everyone.

Perhaps Mark needs to get a lot better at saying nothing - like Allan Jeans.

Some of what Mark Neeld has said ...

"We will be the hardest team to play against"

"I will give you a game plan"

"Success may come a lot quicker that we think"

"Don't worry about the negative headlines, just focus on the club"

"Any of you people in the media got any ideas?"

"The players will need 3 or 4 years to learn the game plan"

"The players will need 3 full pre-seasons to get fit"

''Our aim is to be competitive for as long as we possibly can and that's where we're at,''

"It will take 3-5 years to get this team up to a competitive level"

"We are at GWS level"

".... Didn't see that coming" the most beautiful words spoken by a head coach.

This is now officially getting beyond a joke.

I'm actually starting to hate the guy now, and I feel cheated at how he has driven our club so much further into the mire.

I really liked his season launch speech " you can expect these boys to be seriously competitive for longer this year "

and then the season started, he has somehow topped how bad the start to last season was, we have gone further backwards and he has lost the players and fans, peter jackson must make his first head roll.

".... Didn't see that coming" the most beautiful words spoken by a head coach.

How could I forget that pearler?

Added !

".... Didn't see that coming" the most beautiful words spoken by a head coach.

...and funnily enough it was repeated by Buckley a few weeks later. Must be a Collingwood thing.

How could I forget that pearler?

Added !

"We couldn't match Brisbane's offer for Moloney...."

Top of the bill for me...a blatant lie.

Perhaps Mark needs to get a lot better at saying nothing - like Allan Jeans.

Some of what Mark Neeld has said ...

"We will be the hardest team to play against"

"I will give you a game plan"

"Success may come a lot quicker that we think"

"Don't worry about the negative headlines, just focus on the club"

"We didn't see that coming"

"Any of you people in the media got any ideas?"

"The players will need 3 or 4 years to learn the game plan"

"The players will need 3 full pre-seasons to get fit"

''Our aim is to be competitive for as long as we possibly can and that's where we're at,''

"It will take 3-5 years to get this team up to a competitive level"

"It will take up to 5 years to rebuild"

"We are at GWS level"

One week at a time.....so boring yet so successful.

He let the team do the talking with their actions and what a team they were.

MN now thinks 5 years - I suspect he will be saying 6 years if he is still around in a couple of weeks time!

We would be up by 5 goals if we had AFL level skills

Shows our team is not that bad and makes me even angrier that Neeld said we are 5 years off

Just 5 years?

Neeld's team selection and public statements are aimed at one thing. Protecting his job. If he is here in 5 years time (next season?) I will load an alpaca up with testosterone and have it gore me to death.