At what point does this become unacceptable?

[Hardnut 327]

Someone like Chocco Williams would be available at the end of the year, regardless of contract obligations.

[Striker475 696]

Agree with the last bit. Can anyone compile a list of senior coaches coming our of contract at season's end?

Only one I know of at this point is Sheedy. Voss may be too, but we don't want him obviously.

McKenna, Watters, Hinkley, MM, Sanderson, McCartney, Lyon, B. Scott all definitely under contract. I believe Hardwick, Buckley, C. Scott all are too. No idea re: Worsfold, Longmuire. Clarkson up in the air - personally believe Kennett is trying to pull strings to get rid of him. Hird who knows due to the ASADA stuff.

Also the following available (in theory):

- Roos

- Matthews

- Ayres

- Williams

[tonatopia 278]

Do you think Roos has even been approached. He wrote a good article on sat about what he would do if he was coaching the demons. Basically said that the game needs to be stripped back to accountable one on one footy.

I reckon if he is given the space, he would relish the challenge of taking the MFC to the top.

But then again, our current Admin put neeld on a 3 year contract, I hope there is a performance clause. Stupid stupid board.

[Striker475 696]

Do you think Roos has even been approached. He wrote a good article on sat about what he would do if he was coaching the demons. Basically said that the game needs to be stripped back to accountable one on one footy.

I reckon if he is given the space, he would relish the challenge of taking the MFC to the top.

But then again, our current Admin put neeld on a 3 year contract, I hope there is a performance clause. Stupid stupid board.

Sack him and start again. This club needs to realise when it's actually made an error of judgement. Too many times have we sat on our hands taking the safe option. Right now, the safe option is killing our footy club.

[T-34 409]

Do you think Roos has even been approached. He wrote a good article on sat about what he would do if he was coaching the demons. Basically said that the game needs to be stripped back to accountable one on one footy.

I reckon if he is given the space, he would relish the challenge of taking the MFC to the top.

But then again, our current Admin put neeld on a 3 year contract, I hope there is a performance clause. Stupid stupid board.

Because he wrote an article that sounded good would be a great basis to hire him.

In a year, when his plan has proved no good do you then move on to the next victim?

I've got an extra 15 years on you supporting this train wreck and I'm sick of the revolving door system we employ with coaches.

Well I'm just as sick of that [censored] as you are of not changing coaches, does that make me right and you wrong or vice versa,

Probably not but this time I'd like to see us make the hard decision, and stay the course with Neeld, at least for the rest of this season.

As much as everyone thinks this is his side its not, he has had one draft and is nowhere near cleaning the place out.

He is still paying the price of the previous coaching/recruiting regime.

Understand your point but don't ever mistake disagreeing with someone elses point with being wrong just means their point of view doesn't match yours.

[bing181 8,228]

How do supporters accept this?

No-one's accepting this.

Responses differ though.

For mine, for the life of me I cannot see what good can come out of playing under a stand-in coach for the rest of the year.

[bing181 8,228]

But then again, our current Admin put neeld on a 3 year contract, I hope there is a performance clause. Stupid stupid board.

McCarthy. Unproven assistant. 3 year contract

Sanderson. Unproven assistant. 3 year contract

Watters. Unproven assistant. 3 year contract

Neeld. Unproven assistant. 3 year contract.

Hinkley. Unproven assistant. 4 year contract.

[bush demon 1,915]

Something that annoyed me was the quote that if the players didn't play Neeld's way (along the boundary) they "better start saving their petrol tickets for Casey". I mean, if he said that i think it shows foolishness and is the voice of an outsider. Why make Casey an object of ridicule and why make Melbourne an object of ridicule, in the same sentence. There was a reason embraced by the club to set up at Casey, and playing for a seconds team shouldn't be seen as a badge of dishonour, or just as punishment for not following team rules. The non-playing of Watts (in either team) also marks a level of pettiness which is hard to justify and flies in the face of reasons for dropping him in the first place. it seems to me that Neeld's zero tolerance Malthouse style authority needs to buy some petrol tickets if the players are going to go the extra mile for the coach.

[Barney Rubble 1,576]

This is fascinating to read. So do you think McLardy knows Freeman is next in line?

Do you think it's a problem that Foundation Heroes have more control around the club? It's not by chance that some of those people ended up minted. I'd imagine some of them could be ruthless business people.

At the lunch it was mentioned he was voted on because of his strategic planning & management expertise

I would think that to be the main requirement of a President.

I've no doubt the Foundation Heroes have a lot of business acumen and some are very ruthless.

But when they put members on the board, they should allow them to function without bias.

It smells of the "Tail wagging the dog"

If they want to have a say, they should nominate for the board instead of just letting their money do the talking.

Edited April 14, 2013 by Chippy

[BrisbaneDemon 1,501]

Because he wrote an article that sounded good would be a great basis to hire him.

In a year, when his plan has proved no good do you then move on to the next victim?

I've got an extra 15 years on you supporting this train wreck and I'm sick of the revolving door system we employ with coaches.

Well I'm just as sick of that [censored] as you are of not changing coaches, does that make me right and you wrong or vice versa,

Probably not but this time I'd like to see us make the hard decision, and stay the course with Neeld, at least for the rest of this season.

As much as everyone thinks this is his side its not, he has had one draft and is nowhere near cleaning the place out.

He is still paying the price of the previous coaching/recruiting regime.

Understand your point but don't ever mistake disagreeing with someone elses point with being wrong just means their point of view doesn't match yours.

I politely disagree, Football clubs are not longer football clubs, they’re now a business/enterprise. If a project manager of a job fall that far behind, he would be removed without a blink of an eye. The MFC need to realize this is a business and we need to be competitive in the market. If we sit on our hands and this continues, no one will want to come and play through the free agency and there will be a massive walk out next year.

Sometimes partnerships just don’t work. Mark is a smart man, he’ll know if this continues mid season he is gone. The sharks are truly circling and he would certainly know it. Something has to give either it’s the players improve or the coach goes, its one or the other.

We’re not this bad, our list is not that shocking. Something has to give and give soon!!!

[Johnny Karate 559]

Something that annoyed me was the quote that if the players didn't play Neeld's way (along the boundary) they "better start saving their petrol tickets for Casey". I mean, if he said that i think it shows foolishness and is the voice of an outsider. Why make Casey an object of ridicule and why make Melbourne an object of ridicule, in the same sentence. There was a reason embraced by the club to set up at Casey, and playing for a seconds team shouldn't be seen as a badge of dishonour, or just as punishment for not following team rules. The non-playing of Watts (in either team) also marks a level of pettiness which is hard to justify and flies in the face of reasons for dropping him in the first place. it seems to me that Neeld's zero tolerance Malthouse style authority needs to buy some petrol tickets if the players are going to go the extra mile for the coach.

Agreed. If it was Malthouse doing/saying this it would go down easier as he has an aura about him as well as runs on the board over a long & successful career to back up an inflated ego. I appreciate Neeld's conviction but he's approached it as though he was popularly elected & he's using his political capital to push through change. Our admin popularly elected him and gave him a mandate for change - our players didn't. He has seemingly failed to acknowledge this and it's got them offside.

[Demon SeaMan 108]

For those that are just fighting with their own demons to accept such losing margins I take solace in what I'm prepared to

accept before I bastardize this club or take a break from them for rest of the yr. each week I'm setting acceptable /realisitc goals to determine improvement. Last week it was to be within 4 goals of W.C at 1/2 time or 10 goals at F/t. They achieved one of them!

This week it will be within a goal to G CS or to win by 12pts. For those who are fighting their own demons with following this shite, then this IMO best approach, outside of drinking myself into a stupor each week

[Weedster 174]

it became unacceptable about half way through the Eseendon game

Neeld is a worse coach than Bailey, as unbelievable as that seems

I fear you are correct. We have not been competitive at all under Neeld's regime - a fluke against Essendon, and wins against the newbies last year - that is all we have to hang our hats on.

Simply not good enough at any level, no matter what excuses are rolled out.