"Tanking"

[Sir Why You Little 36,954]

Why dont you fill the board with your wisdom big boy?

i give my opinions when warranted. You prefer to set fire....

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

You have a lot of sauces WYL, have you heard anymore from your one at Carlton?

maybe too many around here have been on the "sauce", judging by some posts.

[Slartibartfast 17,149]

i give my opinions when warranted. You prefer to set fire....

His fire would have trouble keeping up with the 17465 opinions you've offered!

[Sir Why You Little 36,954]

His fire would have trouble keeping up with the 17465 opinions you've offered!

good.

I have no time for destructive opinions.

[Scoop Junior 3,435]

If Caro was around at least we'd know what was going on.

So are you saying you would like her to be around?

In other words, would you prioritise being more "informed" on the tanking issue by having Caro around over the club suffering more damage to its brand as a result of her biased reporting?

I am happy to sacrifice the "information" she provides so that the club's name isn't dragged deeper into the mud.

[Damo 3,340]

I think Caroline Wilson will have an article ready to go when the AFL pronounce judgement. I also believe MFC will have known the outcome before it is announced. In other words whatever is going to happen will be worked out behind the scenes and there will be no legal fight. I dont have sauce on vegetables and dont agree with this process but I bet thats how it will play.

Edited January 29, 2013 by Franky_31

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

If Caro was around at least we'd know what was going on.

Ahhhhh problem is, other than absolute conjecture and hypothesis, as well as taking the word of people who might not necessarily be 'unbiased', Caro did not have a clue, as to the reality and chose to run with her spurious story, despite that being the case. She has no more upon which she can enlighten the great unwashed.

[Arrow 1,257]

I think this whole tanking investigation is obvious. Vlad could never seen to be wrong, therefore his statement that tanking doesn't exist in the AFL will always ring in his ears. By milking this investigation out for as long as humanly possible it takes away people like Caroline Wilson from than writing articles saying he's trying to sweep it up the cover. Longer the investigation goes on the more information it appears they're going through but really they're just biding time so it looks like every avenue has been explored.

At the end of the day not guilty will be the verdict.

[Slartibartfast 17,149]

In other words, would you prioritise being more "informed" on the tanking issue by having Caro around over the club suffering more damage to its brand as a result of her biased reporting?

I'm not spooked by her opinions and I think the rest of the footy world think she is on a vendetta and don't take much notice anyway. I really don't think she has damaged our brand with her reporting and has probably done her own brand more harm. Perhaps that's why she's on holidays!

MFC supporters are too close to this Scoop and I think many are unnecessarily spooked.

She has no more upon which she can enlighten the great unwashed.

We can disagree. I think she has got excellent sources and in the main provided good information.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,722]

I've said it all along, this has settlement written all over it.

The club will cop a small sanction - small fine and a loss of draft pick or 2 (which will be replaced with the Sylvia free agency compo, if he leaves at the end of the year). Nothing that will cripple us long term.

No way this ends up in court. The club has too much to lose and too little money to spend.

Edited January 29, 2013 by Bring-Back-Powell

[daisycutter 29,600]

we should rename this thread "Fan's Greatest Fantasy and Obsession"

[binman 42,560]

Coincidence that the AFL drug summit and the attendant media saturation coincides with MFC responding to the investigation? I think not.

[s-t-i-n-g-a 439]

His fire would have trouble keeping up with the 17465 opinions you've offered!

That's almost as many times as you have told us you wish Caro was around...of course you have no idea how your being antagonising...

[s-t-i-n-g-a 439]

...I really don't think she has damaged our brand with her reporting and has probably done her own brand more harm...

I think she has got excellent sources and in the main provided good information.

Why would she have damaged her brand if she has been providing good information from excellent sources?

[rpfc 28,247]

I'm not spooked by her opinions and I think the rest of the footy world think she is on a vendetta and don't take much notice anyway. I really don't think she has damaged our brand with her reporting and has probably done her own brand more harm. Perhaps that's why she's on holidays!

MFC supporters are too close to this Scoop and I think many are unnecessarily spooked.

We can disagree. I think she has got excellent sources and in the main provided good information.

So she has good information but she has hurt her brand...

WTF?

TimD - I need another appraisal over here...

My appraisal is along the lines that Fan thought he was onto a winner when Caro was spouting off like a oil spigot, and now that he's covered in something that isn't oil he is delicately, and with the dexterity of a Russian gymnast, trying to find someone to buy this composted argument. Hence "Caro's info is good, her sources impeccable" juxtaposed with "her brand is damaged, she has a vendetta."

[nutbean 8,838]

I've said it all along, this has settlement written all over it.

The club will cop a small sanction - small fine and a loss of draft pick or 2 (which will be replaced with the Sylvia free agency compo, if he leaves at the end of the year). Nothing that will cripple us long term.

No way this ends up in court. The club has too much to lose and too little money to spend.

You honestly believe that if we are hit with losing "a draft pick or two" that it wont end up in court ????

Anything that is aimed directly at the club itself, be it a fine or draft picks and I would think they will fight it in court - if the club doesnt then it is admitting guilt. I would be disappointed if we didnt defend CC an/or CS, but I could see the possibility of them being jettisoned and the MFC taking no further action but I would suspect that we would require wriggle room - ie CC comments were injudicious or CS's meeting was open to misinterpretation. Again, if the two were charged with draft tampering and bringing the game into disrepute and there actions described as "tanking" then I would expect vigorous defense.

[Bossdog 2,002]

You honestly believe that if we are hit with losing "a draft pick or two" that it wont end up in court ????

Anything that is aimed directly at the club itself, be it a fine or draft picks and I would think they will fight it in court - if the club doesnt then it is admitting guilt. I would be disappointed if we didnt defend CC an/or CS, but I could see the possibility of them being jettisoned and the MFC taking no further action but I would suspect that we would require wriggle room - ie CC comments were injudicious or CS's meeting was open to misinterpretation. Again, if the two were charged with draft tampering and bringing the game into disrepute and there actions described as "tanking" then I would expect vigorous defense.

I agree with this "nut"......I don't think the club can hang anyone out to dry on this and I think we should back our Admin to the hilt....otherwise who the hell would want to work for us in the future if we drop people at the slightest bump in the road.....I think it's a case of one in all in....I would be so pizzed if we don't....

[old dee 23,744]

Never understand why people on here think CW is in any trouble.

95% of football fans think she is exposing the MFC as tankers

That will not change no matter what happens over the next few weeks.

So a majority of Dees fans dislike her

Don't think she is lying awake at night worrying about MFC supporters

[dee_star 63]

Seems to be a lot less leaking of AFL friendly information into the media since a certain high profile individual left a few months ago... wonder if that's a coincidence...

[rpfc 28,247]

Never understand why people on here think CW is in any trouble.

95% of football fans think she is exposing the MFC as tankers

That will not change no matter what happens over the next few weeks.

So a majority of Dees fans dislike her

Don't think she is lying awake at night worrying about MFC supporters

Absolutely.

Talk to the fan on the street and she is a crusader of 'truth' against the Bloated One.

[old dee 23,744]

Absolutely.

Talk to the fan on the street and she is a crusader of 'truth' against the Bloated One.

Yep

[rjay 24,849]

I've said it all along, this has settlement written all over it.

The club will cop a small sanction - small fine and a loss of draft pick or 2 (which will be replaced with the Sylvia free agency compo, if he leaves at the end of the year). Nothing that will cripple us long term.

No way this ends up in court. The club has too much to lose and too little money to spend.

Any admission of guilt will cripple us; as I think 'rpfc' posted it would mean the end of gaming licences and in effect the Bentleigh club.

It's not going to happen and we're not in a position to give up any draft picks. You wouldn't want your future riding on free agency compo either.

[Neita3000 37]

I've said it all along, this has settlement written all over it.

The club will cop a small sanction - small fine and a loss of draft pick or 2 (which will be replaced with the Sylvia free agency compo, if he leaves at the end of the year). Nothing that will cripple us long term.

No way this ends up in court. The club has too much to lose and too little money to spend.

That doesn't sound like a settlement to me.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

So I'm not allowed to say that I think if Caro was still reporting the situation we'd know more.

How on earth is that antagonising MFC supporters?

I think you're smart enough to work that one out yourself.

[old dee 23,744]

we should rename this thread "Fan's Greatest Fantasy and Obsession"

don't you mean bb now dc?