Judd steps down from Captaincy AND Leadership group...

[hardtack 10,525]

Maybe I'm reading too much into this and more than likely there is nothing in it, but is there a chance maybe something is going to come to light regarding shady dealings in his salary arrangements with the club? The fact that he has stepped down from the captaincy raises no suspicions, but the leadership group as well?

[old dee 23,784]

Maybe I'm reading too much into this and more than likely there is nothing in it, but is there a chance maybe something is going to come to light regarding shady dealings in his salary arrangements with the club? The fact that he has stepped down from the captaincy raises no suspicions, but the leadership group as well?

Perhaps MM does not like him?

[hardtack 10,525]

Perhaps MM does not like him?

Indeed OD - another possibility I overlooked :-)

[Redjacket 756]

leadership group as well?

I think it has more to do with him not being a leader.

The captaincy (as well as the third party payments) were part of the carrot to lure him to Carlton. Fact is he is not really a leader he is just a very elite foot soldier

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,710]

I seem to recall him resisting the captaincy at Carlton but ended up taking it on because at the time there was no-one else anywhere near suitable. Now they have some good options (no, not you, Brock).

[Tatu 416]

Might have something to do with him being a free Agent next year.....

[old dee 23,784]

Might have something to do with him being a free Agent next year.....

I don't believe that is true tatu.

My understanding is you to have been 8 years with the one club.

He has not been 8 years at Carlton from my memory.

[DeeZee 7,364]

I guess their dream of Judd leading them to a premiership is over.

[beelzebub 23,313]

Someone had better go ask his gran for the latest goss and low-down !!

[H_T 3,043]

Someone had better go ask his gran for the latest goss and low-down !!

Here we go...she's knitting a red & blue scarf, I take it?

[old dee 23,784]

Here we go...she's knitting a red & blue scarf, I take it?

On the decline and costs too much, Carlton are welcome to him IMO

[beelzebub 23,313]

Probably as simple as Mouse wanting to recast the leadership group in light of 1) his ideas mightny have been as per Rats and 2) time for a fresh reboot.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

he probably told the club they are not paying him enough for the extra responsibility.. if you want me to captain I want 14 million dollars a year

[H_T 3,043]

he probably told the club they are not paying him enough for the extra responsibility.. if you want me to captain I want 14 million dollars a year

"If you want me to continue as captain, I need a promotion from my ambassador role of Visy to CEO of Visy, have a word to Jeannie..."

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

Clearly Brock is running that club...

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

"If you want me to continue as captain, I need a promotion from my ambassador role of Visy to CEO of Visy, have a word to Jeannie..."

in fact I must be Prime Minister of Australia - I am not going to actually do anything just the title and the paycheck

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

in fact I must be Prime Minister of Australia - I am not going to actually do anything just the title and the paycheck

Dude, Judd would be an awesome PM. Think of the Judd v Abbott budgie smuggler comps. They could have them right now in Parliament and it wouldn't even detract from the current quality of debate.

Also, hot first lady (or whatever we call her). Zoo weekly will go nuts.

[Good Times Grimes 2,396]

I see Judd as similar to Neitz in a way. He is a very good player in a team lacking a sufficient number of other leaders. My guess is that he and Malthouse decided it was best for him to step away from the leadership role in order for other players to develop into leaders; otherwise, they could end up like Melbourne has since Neitz retired.

[Mgdee 322]

Seems to me Malthouse is doing at Carlton what Neeld did with Melbourne last year.

He is letting it be known he will be running the club whoever's toes he happens to stand on in the process.

If the players don't like it look for a big cleanout at year's end.

Buy in or get out!!

[Sir Why You Little 37,011]

Ju$$'s best days are behind him..the club are obviously aware of it...

[hoopla 418]

Clearly Brock is running that club...

Yeah I was hoping he would continue - just to prove Brock wrong

[monoccular 17,417]

in fact I must be Prime Minister of Australia - I am not going to actually do anything just the title and the paycheck

He wouldn't accept the pay cut...........though.......... maybe a union slush fund by some other name????

[jnrmac 20,055]

Judd has always been about Judd. He is not a leaders bootlace. Great player unquestionably but not a leader of men.

[Swampfox 190]

Maybe it is simply MM knowing what everyone else knows

Judd is not a natural leader and like a lot of clubs do simply choose the teams best player

Collingwood made what most of us thought was a strange choice in Nick Maxwell but we know why now

Being a great player has very little to do with team leadership qualities

When i look at Carlton i think names like Nicholls and Kernerhan as standouts

Even Mike Fitzpatrick was a good captain without being outstanding and miles in front of Judd

Whitten is the best captain i have seen and no surprise why he was selected as the TOC captain

[Robot Devil 1,895]

Never forget.... this is who he is.

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