Much said regarding the idea of a Dawes deal @ 20

But what if we go down a different road and say look at Pedersen etc as the 2nd up fwd.

Who then at 20

Who and what type ?

All you drafting gurus..... Over to you

Happy to trade #20 for Dawes.. Hogan will take sometime and we need someone to support Clarke in the meantime.

I misunderstood the title. I thought this was going to be multiple choice.

I'd be fairly happy with Dawes for pick 20.

pick 20 options:

1. Nick Graham (Gippsland Power) - Morrish Medal winner. Good tough taller midfielder. Exactly what we need. Very good 2nd half of 2012.

2. Sam Lowrie (WA, Sth Fremantle under 18's). taller midfielder at 187cms. can win the footy inside but also run & carry. Skills are elite. We should get him as WCE have traded pick 17 off the magpies.

3. Rory Atkins (Calder cannons) - elite kicking skills. as shown as Draft combine, he uses the footy. Reminds me of Brent Reilly from the Crows. All class.

and a mature age bolter

4. Dean Towers (Nth ballarat, 22yo) - Medium midfielder/half back. Runs and carries the footy. Has speed, agility and showed athletic ability at the draft combine.

Edited October 9, 201213 yr by spirit of norm smith

I misunderstood the title. I thought this was going to be multiple choice.

I'd be fairly happy with Dawes for pick 20.

Sorry to disappoint lol

Dawes is a choice, but if we decline the wonders of Collingwoods list.. Who

I keep going to the notion of roles. We only need someone who can adequately perform as 2nd up fwd. doesn't need to be a gun etc

Edited October 9, 201213 yr by belzebub59

IIRC it was 2003, and we were in desperate need of a big body forward to support an aging Neitz. Traded pick 20 for a slightly dubious key forward with positives and negatives. Ben Holland. Sound familiar?

Line ball but I call that a win for us. Same again?

Another midfielder, especially if we get Grundy at pick 4. Viney and Barry are too little from a so-called supper draft blessed with midfielders.

Where are the midfield FA and RFAs we were gonna target? With Beamer seemingly gone, we severely lack experience in the midfield.

Despite other reports, this draft seems very shallow. The top prospects are great as always but it falls away big time.We should take another midfielder at 20 if we don't trade it. We need as many mids as possible as it's clearly our weakness.

If we get Wines at 4 , that means we will have our tough inside mids sorted.

Our Backs ....Sorted.

Our Forwards with Hogans, Byrnes and possibly Pederson.....sorted

So the next two picks should be used on run and carry type players, preferably with pace,endurance and good skills.

We already have Barry,Blease,Bail,Possibly Ray, so we need a couple more.

Best available.

IIRC it was 2003, and we were in desperate need of a big body forward to support an aging Neitz. Traded pick 20 for a slightly dubious key forward with positives and negatives. Ben Holland. Sound familiar?

Line ball but I call that a win for us. Same again?

But do we need that 2nd fwd to be pick 20?

We will have lower picks

Where are the midfield FA and RFAs we were gonna target? With Beamer seemingly gone, we severely lack experience in the midfield.

Mate... he was gone by the half way point of this season. The experience you wanted to see barely shown by him in 2012 ...

Does anyone think Garlett, Kennedy or Stringer could slide to our pick because if so I would be disgusted if we didn't grab them.

I misunderstood the title. I thought this was going to be multiple choice.

I'd be fairly happy with Dawes for pick 20.

Colcohoun?

Atkins would be good.

I'm starting to think we should go after some small, strong, running players, who can play defence or forward.

Go after a 'Gumbleton' now we have Hogan. a 3rd Rnd type tall forward, who'll crash & bash.

Edited October 9, 201213 yr by dee-luded

I could see us having a few second round picks with Gys possibly going, also Martin and Morton are possibles and FA compo for Rivers/Moloney. Should be some run and spread players in second round.

Does anyone think Garlett, Kennedy or Stringer could slide to our pick because if so I would be disgusted if we didn't grab them.

Kennedy I doubt, but would love it.

Garlett, no thanks. too much risk IMO.

Stringer, if he's there.

I think Neeld may go for Towers as he wants Mature players.

I would be happy with this at 20

Colcohoun?

Atkins would be good.

I'm starting to think we should go after some small, strong, running players, who can play defence or forward.

Go after a 'Gumbleton' now we have Hogan. a 3rd Rnd type tall forward, who'll crash & bash.

Sam seems quite interesting. A good back project type. We've put so much emphasis on the mids and forwards but we have to have up and comers everywhere.

Like the look of Tim Membrey or Matthew McDonough as options for pick 20 if we have it for the Draft. Keen on the former and should be thereabouts. Terrific form in the TAC Cup finals.

Sam seems quite interesting. A good back project type. We've put so much emphasis on the mids and forwards but we have to have up and comers everywhere.

I think we need some zippy players with that agile 'step', to get past & break lines. Take the game on types, from the turnovers we'll create.

We don't just need an outside mid, & they're not all one dimensional.

Some smalls can go back & forward & work hard in the middle.

If we get 4 of a kind in 20's picks, we could get a spread of ages.

Despite other reports, this draft seems very shallow. The top prospects are great as always but it falls away big time.We should take another midfielder at 20 if we don't trade it. We need as many mids as possible as it's clearly our weakness.

It may not be the super draft that was touted a year ago, but I reckon it's very good. Up to pick 40 or 50 you'd expect to get a very good player.

As usual they'll be players taken in the 20's that end up being better than players taken in the top 10. The skill is working out who.

Best player available not fussed mid, forward. We took Tom Mac as a forward now he is at home in defence, can happen again, did I also read somewhere Membrey has a decent tank for his size, could end up similar to Rockliff

An Isaac Smith type would be ideal at pick 20. A hard at it kid with line-breaking speed, who can run carry and kick the thing a mile.

In two years time he'll be bombing it down the throat of the Hulkster.

I would trade it for Dawes but does anyone know the draft rules I think we have to use a minimum 3 picks in draft

Inside/Outside Midfiedlers:

Sam Lowrie, Rory Atkins

Outside Midfiedlers:

Laine Wilkins, Matthew Haynes, Dean Towers, Jackson MacRae (if available)

HBF/Midfielder:

Nathan Wright (if available), Sam Colcohoun (if available)

KPF:

Kristian Jaksch, Tim Membrey

Would be happy enough with any of those 10. I'd also be happy enough to trade if for Dawes.

I would trade it for Dawes but does anyone know the draft rules I think we have to use a minimum 3 picks in draft

You are not factoring in likely picks from FA compensation and trades involving Gysberts, Martin, Bate, Cook et al.