Now a "no genuine attempt" against a ball getter who was at the bottom of a stack = in the back!

  On 22/09/2012 at 09:35, monoccular said:

Now a "no genuine attempt" against a ball getter who was at the bottom of a stack = in the back!

With no prior op?! Fack off.

The reversal against Scho was ridiculous too!

Whinging about umpiring ...

It gets said too often, but the umps really did cost Adelaide that game...

A bit of deja vu for the crows.

Disgraceful umpiring tonight... a few thoughts,

1 Umpires put the whistle away in first three quarters and refused to pay Holding the ball. Team affected Adelaide! Then in last quarter Hawks get paid some highly dubious frees against Adelaide in same circumstances. Consistency???? Nup

2 Highly questionable 50 for soft interference results in "Gift" Hawthorn goal.

3 Last quarter Adelaide player clearly had disposed of ball in forward 50 and Hawks late grab impeded progress, result.... Play on!

Shocking decisions in context of close game.

Adelaide Advertiser tommorrow

"We wuz Robbed"

Yep agree!

  On 22/09/2012 at 09:58, old55 said:

Whinging about umpiring ...

The directive of the AFL to soften the game, I agree to a point on the players need to "protect" fellow players but when the umpires are directed to look for frees and laws of the game changed to enhance that let alone giving ridiculous soft frees... annoying

  On 22/09/2012 at 11:14, picket fence said:

Disgraceful umpiring tonight... a few thoughts,

1 Umpires put the whistle away in first three quarters and refused to pay Holding the ball. Team affected Adelaide! Then in last quarter Hwaks get paid some highly dubious frees against Adelaide in same circumstances. Consistency???? Nup

2 Highly questionable 50 for soft interference results in "Gift" Hawthorn goal.

3 Last quarter Adelaide player clearly had disposed of ball in forward 50 and Hawks late grab impeded progress, result.... Play on!

Shocking decisions in context of close game.

Adelaide Advertiser tommorrow

"We wuz Robbed"

Yep agree!

Hope that forward 50 you are referring to isn't the Dangerfield one- nothing in it.

Then there was the reversal when the crow did his best Lynden Dumm impersonation.

What goes around comes around...

The advantage payed to Adelaide when they clearly didn't want it, well looked dubious to me.

Thanks for the replies.

I am now almost convinced that the game is rigged for future crowds.

Please help me here because I am about to go ballistic; and when I do...... well I am glad i am out of the country.

  On 22/09/2012 at 03:53, jnrmac said:

I actually believe we as a bottom team get the newer (and therefore likely worse) umpires. Does anyone know whether this is is actually the case? I guess the 'blockbuster' games would get teh more senior umps but we seem have been rogered all year by shiite umpiring.

This is true, also in the run through to the finals they start to put together the teams of experienced umps who will be umpiring the finals and naturally there are teams of leftover rejects who usually do our games.

The reversal that nearly cost the hawks the game was the softest thing I have ever seen, Hale had his head ripped off, after marking the ball, had to be 50 metres yet was only payed a free kick, then schoenmakers barely touches the porpoise with his knee and the whole thing is overturned! Ridiculous umpiring with no feel for the game. The free to Franklin against Rutten was dumb, but resulted in a point so it hardly changed the game, the advantage call was ridiculous.

Geishen: "I have reviewed the tapes, and every decision was absolutely correct. they had a real feel for the game, and it wasn't close enough for there to be any influence whatsoever on the result. Well done."

I don't think the conspiracy theory on this thread has any merit but the umpiring was ordinary at the Hawks game.

The main offender was the bubble-headed bloke, Matthew Nicholls, who comes from the northern suburbs of Melbourne.

He clearly had different interpretations for the competing clubs, gave a very soft 50 metre penalty to the Hawks and ignored one for the Crows.

He was the main reason frees were running two to one Hawks way early. I noticed after half time he paid a couple to the Crows - maybe he was 'counselled' at the main break.

Like so many an inconsistent hack.

His two mates were mostly OK.

I thought Adelaide copped a bath from the Umps .

What about the automatic 50 not paid to Van Berlo, who took the mark after being interfered by the Hawks runner. That had to be a 50 as all commentators said, putting the Crow about 15m out straight in front. The umpire got out of it by saying he paid a free for it to Van Berlo, but he marked it.

The 50 and gift goal to the Hawks early on was as the TV boys said again just plainly wrong.

Then the only holding the ball for the night against the Crows with 10 players lying on top of the poor bastard.If anything it was in the back, only 25 metres out.

If it happened to us we would screaming for blood. Even Eddie said you could mount a very strong case to say they were robbed.

  On 22/09/2012 at 03:53, jnrmac said:

I actually believe we as a bottom team get the newer (and therefore likely worse) umpires. Does anyone know whether this is is actually the case? I guess the 'blockbuster' games would get teh more senior umps but we seem have been rogered all year by shiite umpiring.

This would be true, but I watch a lot of neutral games and the umpiring isn't all that much better. Some of the umpires in the game when we played Richmond I think it was at the G looked like they were about 15. They had the holding the ball rule right about 5-10 years ago with the "prior opportunity" test. Don't know why they had to change it to now where it looks like rugby because a free kick isn't paid as long as the ball keeps moving (even if thrown out or the player had ages to get rid of it - see Hale being tackled yesterday). This is contrasted with a player being set upon by 3 players as soon as he gathers the ball and he is pinged because he made no attempt! How are you supposed to make an attempt when every limb has been wrapped up and the ball is being held in by the opposition? Not to mention the fact that the player making the play had no opportunity whatsoever to dispose of the ball. It's absolutely ridiculous and just infuriating.

Agree on Adelaide got the rough end all night long.

God I hope the swannies get up this Saturday.

  On 23/09/2012 at 01:17, condemned 84 said:

Agree on Adelaide got the rough end all night long.

God I hope the swannies get up this Saturday.

I'm with you.

Umpire Nicholls, number 15, was the main offender. Most of the contentious frees against Adelaide were given by him. Make the Bas@@rds accountable, print when and where, to whom and by whom after every game. I am positive some of the trends I have referred to throughout would be rectified in no time if we collected that data.