the only thing holding this up , Pedersen to Dees , is the Roos having some ridiculous idea that hes worth a much higher pick ( to us ) and in so forward that pick on to Port as part of the Ben Jacobs deal.

Who gives a flying proverbial or cares about North ffs. personally I reckon the Roos are dreaming...isnt that right Dale !!

It is just staggering how pick 49 would not suffice for a 25 year old who played 2 games this season. Pederson has showed some promise but not getting a game ahead of Aaron Edwards, Robbie Tarrant and no-names like Delaney, Black etc. is a bit concerning.

We went early on Byrnes and watered down our compo.

We paid overs for Dawes (pick 20 should have been more than enough but some turkey put pick 13 on the table for Dawes and forced our hand).

Don't pay overs again Melbourne. We'll get 3-4 years out of Pederson. Pick 33-38 could deliver a 10 year midfielder, like (we all hope) Taggart is, and Sellar can play a similar swing man role.

No expert on these things but does this work?

Martin to Lions

Picks 33,49 to Nth

Nth Melbourne pick 38 to St Kilda

Pedersen, Ray to Dees.

im not convinced the Lions will part with 33 for Martin, just my guts talking though

No expert on these things but does this work?

Martin to Lions

Picks 33,49 to Nth

Nth Melbourne pick 38 to St Kilda

Pedersen, Ray to Dees.

depends who gives up the picks?

No expert on these things but does this work?

Martin to Lions

Picks 33,49 to Nth

Nth Melbourne pick 38 to St Kilda

Pedersen, Ray to Dees.

Think that trade was detailed on the Facebook page but we threw in Bennell too. So effectively we gave up Martin, Bennell and 49 and recieve Pedersen and Ray. Pretty good deal I reckon.

I would cry

So would I.

if North are playing hard ball then lets just walk away. They need to offload him more than we need to get him i would say. They will come crawling back when they need the extra pick for whatever other deals they need to get done. I would focus our attention on getting Ray.

FFS who is Pederson seriously? if Hamish Mcintosh is worth pick 36 then why are we suddenly prepared to part with something similar for this guy. I'm all for getting him but only for pick 45+ max.

if North are playing hard ball then lets just walk away. They need to offload him more than we need to get him i would say. They will come crawling back when they need the extra pick for whatever other deals they need to get done. I would focus our attention on getting Ray.

FFS who is Pederson seriously? if Hamish Mcintosh is worth pick 36 then why are we suddenly prepared to part with something similar for this guy. I'm all for getting him but only for pick 45+ max.

I'm amused by the logic that we should limit ourselves to pick 45+ because you don't know who he is.

im not convinced the Lions will part with 33 for Martin, just my guts talking though

Maybe Martin & Pick 63 for 33. Assuming that Pick 63 is one that Brisbane would use?

Why have we all got so crazy about getting this 26 year old Werribee player?

I'm amused by the logic that we should limit ourselves to pick 45+ because you don't know who he is.

I know that other clubs wouldnt be prepared to give up a second round pick for him isnt that enough?

Why have we all got so crazy about getting this 26 year old Werribee player?

I could say the same thing about the fascination of picks in the 40s and 50s.

'He's not worth 44, but maybe 45... 46 you say? Heavens, that a steal!'

Why have we all got so crazy about getting this 26 year old Werribee player?

Because some DL's have seen a two minute utube video of his hightlights and "wow" this bloke can play

I could put up a utube video of Juice Newton's highlights and guess what.....DL's would be wanting to grab him at pick 33.......

Because some DL's have seen a two minute utube video of his hightlights and "wow" this bloke can play

I could put up a utube video of Juice Newton's highlights and guess what.....DL's would be wanting to grab him at pick 33.......

Spot on.

I know that other clubs wouldnt be prepared to give up a second round pick for him isnt that enough?

No, not really. His value may be more to us than it would be to other clubs, or it could be that there are varying opinions of his ability. It's not as black and white as saying he spent the year in the VFL therefore he's not worth anything. I'm not saying I would or wouldn't pay a second round pick, just saying you need to look at the entire picture.

Why have we all got so crazy about getting this 26 year old Werribee player?

I am going to go out on a limb and say that the one thing that has changed at the Melbourne football club in the last year is that we have worked towards creating a system where we can better develop the players that come to the club.

Misson, Craig and a suite of assistant coaches who have come from clubs that have a good track record with developing players to enter the afl system will nodoubt have an impact on our ability to develop players like never before. If this puts us on a path to become a bit more like Sydney and Geelong then I'd like to think that we can begin to trust that we will get the most out of players no matter where we have come from.

I am sure that initially some of the draft selections that Sydney and Geelong have made in the past have been highly scrutinized by their supporters. Richards, Mcglynn, Mattner at Sydney. J Pod at Geelong. People laughed when the Pies took Brown and what did people have to say about Gunston who played almost purely in the SANFL in 2010?

I think our game plan is on the move and we are seeking people like Pederson and Ray to play a very specific role. Sorry long winded answer to your question.

Why have we all got so crazy about getting this 26 year old Werribee player?

Speak for yourself!Then there's that Ben Warren dude....Nudge said he's a monty to end up at the Dees - on whose advice?

This guy should be a no-no

We already have too many guys who get their name spelt wrongly

Land spelling nazis would have a field day

This guy should be a no-no

We already have too many guys who get their name spelt wrongly

Land spelling nazis would have a field day

Wat choo talkin bout dasy. u no maloney goin is a good think!

Because some DL's have seen a two minute utube video of his hightlights and "wow" this bloke can play

I could put up a utube video of Juice Newton's highlights and guess what.....DL's would be wanting to grab him at pick 33.......

Because the "Best of Juice" was not even worthy of someone wasting time to record it.

That's why we are going after a Werribee player. At least he can kick a ball straight consistently.

By the way. Happy Anniversary to me.

I have been a D'Lander for 1 insane year.

Who said I wouldn't last.

Why have we all got so crazy about getting this 26 year old Werribee player?

How many posts have you made in the Gysberts thread ? You know, the one about the Scorpion player.

Deal faltering through North's greed -

Trade wrap: 3 days to go.

We look elsewhere for a third up forward.

Deal faltering through North's greed -

Trade wrap: 3 days to go.

We look elsewhere for a third up forward.

I'd say that provided we get the deal done with martin going to the lions which now seems more likely as he has had an interview with them, we will get pedersen over to the dees. Hopefully we would get pick 33 for martin but if we get a pick around 45+ we may need to bundle that with our other pick, 49.

If they want to pay his contract as he languishes in the VFL, good on them.

They don't want him and don't play him but want a top draft pick to trade him, yeah right, next.