The Draft Combine had Jesse weighing in at 97.4 kilos. He also has a hand span of 24.8 centimetres, which is 0.3 less than ruckman Brodie Grundy.

Please mfc get this kid.

14.1 in today's beep test

[censored] off you piece of [censored], I got it wrong - theres no need for personal insults.

Where did I personally insult you?

Thicken up that skin a little.

in comparison to the other skills of the game, goalkicking is one of the easiest to fix. by training with the other forwards, as well as coaching from leigh brown, hogan could easily develop a new routine that would lead to more reliable kicking. if that's the only problem in his game then i don't think we have much to worry about if we pick him up

especially when he's younger, like a 17 Yr old.

The aggro at the heavy contests, & a feel for the game itself, are harder to find. Footy IQ + some mongrel.

I don't think it is that easy; it would be great if we could to have a player like Cloke, Riewoldt or Richardson, but they have all suffered from an inability to convert over their careers and it has made them lesser players than Dunstall, Lockett and Carey for example. If it was that easy they would have fixed it.

It depends if you want a full forward goal shooter, of a tough CHF roaming around casing mayhem. Lloyd was a goalshooter, richo was a combo, JRiewoldt seems to better inside 50.

It sounds to me like the boys a hard nut Who catches everything in his vicinity.

[censored] off you piece of [censored], I got it wrong - theres no need for personal insults.

Please tell me you are being deliberately ironic.

It depends if you want a full forward goal shooter, of a tough CHF roaming around casing mayhem. Lloyd was a goalshooter, richo was a combo, JRiewoldt seems to better inside 50.

It sounds to me like the boys a hard nut Who catches everything in his vicinity.

I was meaning Nick, Jack is a long way off the players I mentioned.

But be that as it may the weekends game and Buddy just highlight how difficult it is to get the kicking right and how it can cost in the big games.

...and having said that, if he was half as good as Buddy he would be a good get. I'm not sure we have the luxury of picking up a player for 2014 although I'm getting a bit philosophical (more to the point worn out by all the BS being talked by the key players and reporters in this trade period, it's only day 4) about the whole thing now and will just see what happens.

It seems as if we are interested in Jesse so pick 3 or 4 might be on the table.

http://www.afl.com.au/home/tabid/164/default.aspx

It seems as if we are interested in Jesse so pick 3 or 4 might be on the table.

http://www.afl.com.a...64/default.aspx

Speculation of Dogs giving 5 & 6 to GWS and getting a pick or player back, plus first MD pick. Further that Dogs would then go for Martin. In fact they may go for Hogan as they also need a KPF.

Whoever they take, what would that then value MD pick 2 at. Pick 4 is better than either 5 or 6 but clearly not as good as both but need to deduct what comes back their way. Pick 4 is better than anyone other than GC could give. MD 2 is clearly less than MD 1. I think this will make for an interesting negotiation. Could we offer 4 for MD 2 with something back our way? It will also depend on Dogs letting us know who they will take with MD 1, so we can value MD 2.

Side benefit is that GWS knowing we are interested but only if Viney goes later so we can still use 3. Downside may be that we are giving pick 4 now on a player who can't play for a year and might actually slide in his own draft year making it a big overpayment.

Oh the fun of being a Recruiter and List Manager.

Hogan came equal 10th in the beep test with 14.2, which is excellent for a bloke now weighing in at 97.4kg. He's an athletic beast.

Hogan has to be our target. Has all the sise and athletic ability of a very very good power forward.

I would trade our pick 4 for him.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/149205/default.aspx

Still seems there is speculation as to whether Kelly or Hogan will be the second mini draft selection. Josh has performed well at the combine so far; just set the second fastest 3km time ever recorded (9:48) whilst also placing in top 5 for repeated sprints. I'll be happy with either not so sure some others on this board would be.

Kelly is fit but skinny....cale Morton anyone. Hogan is a beast with endurance. Hogan please

Hogan has to be our target. Has all the sise and athletic ability of a very very good power forward.

I would trade our pick 4 for him.

The talk has been the dogs and Martin but as "Redleg" says they may go Hogan. My bet would be on Hogan as they are crying out for a big forward and have enough skinny kids of their own. I think there will only be one MD player taken unless GC get into the act or GWS are prepared to take bids from further down the pecking order.

As Colonel Klink would say....

Get me Hoooogaaaaan!

Why not trade pick 3 and 4 to GWS for the 2 minidraft picks?

Chuck in stef martin if needed to get it over the line.

Why not trade pick 3 and 4 to GWS for the 2 minidraft picks?

Chuck in stef martin if needed to get it over the line.

No we cannot chuck out the Stefanator.

Why not trade pick 3 and 4 to GWS for the 2 minidraft picks?

Chuck in stef martin if needed to get it over the line.

Viney

Yes we bloody well can, and likely will.

Hogan comes equal 10th in the 3km time trial.

Another amazing effort for a 193cm 97kg key forward.

FFS.

I couldn't trade pick 3 or 4 for the rights to him quick enough.

Only problem is the doggies entering the picture.

I think the reported interested in Jack Martin is a ruse and they have their eyes on Hogan.

KPF is their biggest need.

Pick 4 for MD pick 2 and we can't lose. Martin or Hogan (preferably Hogan) will both be gun players.

I want us to get Hogan. Big Time.

ok lets get him and stop mucking me around!!

No we cannot chuck out the Stefanator.

apparently this Hogan guy has relatives connected to Hogan's Heroes.