Can someone please let me know when we can start comparing Jack Martin to Jesse Hogan. All I've heard is he is better than O'mera yet in a game where the Suns best 5 mids were rested he managed 1 kick and 10 handballs. I'm fully aware he is yet to play a home and away game but I'm not the one pumping up his tyres. Honestly can't see him having a bigger impact than O'mera , Crouch or Mitchell did in their first year. Can gladly say my SC and DT doesn't contain any Carlton or Richmond players nor does it have Jack Martin.

Back on the thread, Couldn't imagine in my wildest dreams Ollie Wines ever putting in some short steps to avoid forceful contact, unlike one of ours who needs to learn more about hard ball gets and putting his body in consistently!

Back on the thread, Couldn't imagine in my wildest dreams Ollie Wines ever putting in some short steps to avoid forceful contact, unlike one of ours who needs to learn more about hard ball gets and putting his body in consistently!

Seriously get over yourself PF.

We have Toumpad they have Wines. Whats done is done and I will continue to support Jimmy throughout his career with us and so should you.

Seriously get over yourself PF.

We have Toumpad they have Wines. Whats done is done and I will continue to support Jimmy throughout his career with us and so should you.

You can do what you wish.

This club has made some shocking recruitment decisions over the past 5 years, many believe a lot longer.

Jimmy has shown very little to get excited about so far. Sadly that is a fact.

I wanted to see best mates Jack Viney & Ollie Wines play together. It didn't happen.

I continue to be very annoyed.....

The pleasure of picking scabs. Of recycling water under the bridge.

The pleasure of picking scabs. Of recycling water under the bridge.

There were a lot on here that wanted Ollie and are still fuming that we didn't pick him; if you consider that picking at old wounds then so be it but it's a fact and one that simply won't go away.

There were a lot on here that wanted Ollie and are still fuming that we didn't pick him; if you consider that picking at old wounds then so be it but it's a fact and one that simply won't go away.

But totally pointless. What good does it do to endlessly moan about the choice. We have new recruiters whom most agree did pretty well last year, so how does moaning about alleged past errors help them, the club or the supporters? There are plenty of other things the club has to get right with the players we do have - better to concentrate discussion on that surely.

Sure, Robbie, the past never goes away. My point is that picking it over must be pleasurable, since it isn't generating any new insights. So let it bleed, let it bleed.

But totally pointless. What good does it do to endlessly moan about the choice. We have new recruiters whom most agree did pretty well last year, so how does moaning about alleged past errors help them, the club or the supporters? There are plenty of other things the club has to get right with the players we do have - better to concentrate discussion on that surely.

you make a valid point Sue but when one plays like he is blinded and shite scared by oncoming headlights regularly whilst the other continues to rip it up in the engine room does kind of remind you of the chasm of difference that seems to exist.

MODS lock this thread down.
We have who we have, we need to accept that.
This argument is going nowhere.

Maybe we need to pick at scabs until the pain and discomfort and bloody mess leaves some ugly scar that will serve to remind us of where we have just been - and not to go back..

Like the chances we took with that tall goof at pick 12 - cant even recall his f*cking name..

or another wasted pick 12 that was j gysberts..

or taking an already injured player ahead of a ready-to-go mid, that was CLEARLY the pick of the bunch.

Hmm, why wouldnt you take a ready made mid, who already knew and grew up with an important established Melbourne family and again, was clearly the pick of the crop?

How long do we have to be the f*cking dumb club of the competition?

Pick away.. go hard.. infect.. hit bone!

MODS lock this thread down.

We have who we have, we need to accept that.

This argument is going nowhere.

Why do you think you should be able to control content or people's views ?

Since scabs have been mentioned: I've always wondered what evolutionary advantage it was to humans to so enjoy picking scabs. Real ones I mean. The dangers of infection must be outweighed by something. When someone can give an answer to that I will see the point of this thread.

Since scabs have been mentioned: I've always wondered what evolutionary advantage it was to humans to so enjoy picking scabs. Real ones I mean. The dangers of infection must be outweighed by something. When someone can give an answer to that I will see the point of this thread.

I doubt that there's an evolutionary advantage, but there is probably a psychological one; like the famous headstone, "I told you I was sick." Let the last post be "I told you so. End of story."

Why do you think you should be able to control content or people's views ?

because i'm the King. Duhhhhhhhhh.

Maybe we need to pick at scabs until the pain and discomfort and bloody mess leaves some ugly scar that will serve to remind us of where we have just been - and not to go back..

Like the chances we took with that tall goof at pick 12 - cant even recall his f*cking name..

or another wasted pick 12 that was j gysberts..

or taking an already injured player ahead of a ready-to-go mid, that was CLEARLY the pick of the bunch.

Hmm, why wouldnt you take a ready made mid, who already knew and grew up with an important established Melbourne family and again, was clearly the pick of the crop?

How long do we have to be the f*cking dumb club of the competition?

Pick away.. go hard.. infect.. hit bone!

Wrong pick. Ho hum. It's Melbourne. Move on.

Oliie will be joining the Dees at the end of this season,then you can all compare Ollie & Jimmy in the same team.

He's leaving Port and the Bombers & Blues are right into him,hopefully Jack can sway him.

because i'm the King. Duhhhhhhhhh.

It's good to be the King!

Oliie will be joining the Dees at the end of this season,then you can all compare Ollie & Jimmy in the same team.

He's leaving Port and the Bombers & Blues are right into him,hopefully Jack can sway him.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/port-adelaide-gun-recruit-ollie-wines-justin-westhoff-cam-oshea-and-jasper-pittard-extend-their-contracts/story-fni5f9de-1226848204722

Pretty hard to do, he's just re signed until 2016.

because i'm the King. Duhhhhhhhhh.

Excellent.

I'm fond of the compellingly stupid.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/port-adelaide-gun-recruit-ollie-wines-justin-westhoff-cam-oshea-and-jasper-pittard-extend-their-contracts/story-fni5f9de-1226848204722

Pretty hard to do, he's just re signed until 2016.

there's something going really right, down in Port Adelaide, isn't there?

We need to find it and bottle it for our club.

Excellent.

I'm fond of the compellingly stupid.

as am i, we'll get along famously then it seems.

It's okay to disagree, you two...

Debate, don't belittle.

But totally pointless. What good does it do to endlessly moan about the choice. We have new recruiters whom most agree did pretty well last year, so how does moaning about alleged past errors help them, the club or the supporters? There are plenty of other things the club has to get right with the players we do have - better to concentrate discussion on that surely.

It's called venting sue; sometimes it helps.

Sour grapes over choosing Jimmy but many have gone the early crow .