or, it may say, "then draft 2 of the crumbiest small forwards you can get"?

Crumb and Crumber?

just by way of mentioning Im not too upset if we should 'have' to take Wines at 4 !! I mean..be terrible

Unlike many a pst year its not like we are going to rely on any one player to be our 'saviour" . Whomeve it is @ 4 he'llbe part of the team , not its new poster boy.

U know, I'd love it if GWS held us over a barrel, & took Wines.

Then we could take Toumpas @ 4, & recruit an aged Wines after he's matured in Oak.

or, it may say, "then draft 2 of the crumbiest small forwards you can get"?

Tipungwuti, Shannan Taylor, Marvin Warrell & Brian Coleman-Broome the realistic chances.

Some talk that Warrell has a few interested clubs, Saints in the mix with one of their picks in the 40's.

the players who translate good form from u18 - AFL are those who want it the most. Wines seems to be made of teh right stuff. We could do far worse than pick him @ 4

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Cheers QB, that means 3 in the arvo here, I'll have to find a good wifi link so I can listen on the radio, this place will be in it's usual draft day meltdown and I'll struggle to get on.

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I know its Hagdorn but more speculation that Toumpas has slipped.

Still has us getting Wines.

Damn, I really want Toumpas in red and blue but if Hackdorn reckons he'll slide he's a monty to go top 2.

Cheers QB, that means 3 in the arvo here, I'll have to find a good wifi link so I can listen on the radio, this place will be in it's usual draft day meltdown and I'll struggle to get on.

Damn, I really want Toumpas in red and blue but if Hackdorn reckons he'll slide he's a monty to go top 2.

Haggers is a fool

Tim, I honestly don't care what you think of my posts. Why don't you ignore me so I don't have to bother replying to someone who it seems has little knowledge when it comes to football. Pass the msg on to your 'like' button sidekick 'Jose' also.

The ignore button is a Godsend. I now have that self-indulgent rpcf character on ignore, which means I can now skip a third of the site's crud.

Happy days.

The ignore button is a Godsend. I now have that self-indulgent rpcf character on ignore, which means I can now skip a third of the site's crud.

Happy days.

why post about who you have on ignore?!

Haggers is a fool

He got the $cully rumours right.

Yes, they both have hair and bi-pedal function and play football.

Tynan was a ND50+ pick and isn't talked about the way one talks about a top 5 pick.

they're both also vertebrates and homoeothermic, so I guess yes too

He got the $cully rumours right.

I think if you check through his articles Haggers chopped and changed on that subject and had no idea. I have very little faith in Hagdorn's journalistic ability and his knowledge of AFL.

I dare say like many of our recruiting genius's on Demonland all of Haggers info comes from trawling through the internet. I hear him talk a lot about up and coming players at WAFL level and can honestly say I have seen him at very few WAFL or PSA games

why post about who you have on ignore?!

I think, although he would never admit to it and vehemently dismiss it, he is trying to [censored] the 'ignored.'

He is an easy going, fun person who desperately needs to unclench his butt cheeks.

why post about who you have on ignore?!

In truth it's for the subject. It's best they know in case there was any doubt.

I like to be fair.

I love the hackmeister. He dances to the beat of a different drum (which only he can hear). Interestingly, he makes journos like Caroline Wilson look semi competent.

What a sorry state of affairs the majority of sports media stand for these days....

Viney will play 300 games.

Imagine he did it with his good mate wines.

The destruction duo.

When people describe wines as Dustin Martin, how can we look anywhere else.

We are demons!!!

Ben hur ignores everyone. He ll be talking to himself in no time.

Ben hur ignores everyone. He ll be talking to himself in no time.

He is his number one fan. (IWUAEHIIUE)

Maybe part of Hogan deal was to let Toumpas slip to 4

I've been thinking this since the Hogan/Barry deal got done.

Hope it is the case.....also hope there is no paper trail.

I've been thinking this since the Hogan/Barry deal got done.

Hope it is the case.....also hope there is no paper trail.

I can assure you there is no paper trail...

I can assure you there is no paper trail...

no you can't

no you can't

Ok, I assumed you would get this.

There is no paper trail because you can only have paper trails of things that have actually happened in this reality.

Ok, I assumed you would get this.

There is no paper trail because you can only have paper trails of things that have actually happened in this reality.

your reality rpfc

human beings are noted for their irrationality

you can assure nothing (other than your own doggedness)

having said that I would hope that any paper trails have been consigned to the great bit bucket

Could be just me but I see a bit of Nathan Burke in Wines, but given the availability would still go with Jimmy the Greek

Toumpas is probably going to be a very good footballer but he's got hip problems that may or may not be an ongoing issue, so I would prefer we take Wines who, at this stage appears to be injury free. AFL is a tough gig now and Wines appears ready to handle it.

consigned to the great bit bucket

My IT person radar just went ballistic.