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Jaded No More
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Lets put everything aside, history, recruiting, past coaching indiscretions, and concentrate on one very simple stat. In the first quarter tonight, we kicked a bigger score than we kicked for the rem

Redleg
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This is my take on our position, we are not good enough in a number of areas, we know them and so do the Footy Department. The list is much poorer than many thought, we are not fit enough, we have a n

Jaded No More
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I don't think Bailey's game would have stood up in finals, no doubt, but to blame him for the ineptitude we are seeing now is just cowardly. Neeld makes the calls on who to play and where. He chose

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The soft culture grew thru the Daniher Era. The Bailey Era was one of recruiting young & skilled running players first, before the hardnosed ones, so 'List Management' was big then. Then he ran out of time, before we picked up the harder edge.

I think this is a bit of a myth, where are these skilled running players that were supposedly recruited, I haven't seen them in our senior team or at Casey. We seem to have a team of slow (exception of Blease and Nicholson) unskilled players (exception of Watts).

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I think this is a bit of a myth, where are these skilled running players that were supposedly recruited, I haven't seen them in our senior team or at Casey. We seem to have a team of slow (exception of Blease and Nicholson) unskilled players (exception of Watts).

What you haven't seen, would be Morton, Bennell, Sylvia to a lesser extent, Bail, Strauss, Blease, Maric, Davey. None of these players have come on to a position where we could rely on them to give us a constant supply of class run & carry.

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One Home Renovator bought a house in Smith St, to Jazz up & sell for profit.

One Home Buyer bought a house in Smith St, to renovate & move his family into.

Both houses had turned out to be in poor condition, with weak foundations, & hidden faults.

The Renovator got a Jack & hoisted the house up in parts & stacked bricks & wood under to level it. And put tape around electrical wires where they were worn & exposed. the plumbing was blocked & this was given a temp fix.

The renovator quickly plastered over the cracks & painted, sold this house to a young couple & moved on.

The Home Buyer took his time fixing things properly himself, one by one, methodically moving thru the issues in a logical order.

The Home owner spent more time but used much more care.

50 Years later the Home Buyers house has been extended & a further renovation done to it. It stands Tall & Proudly, in Smith street.

The other has been leveled, and is a retirement home these days.

Sooooo in 50 years we'll still be drafting "future stars" aka extensions?

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Why do people here have to be classified as either a Neeld man or a Bailey man?

And why is Bailey to blame for everything that's wrong with the world, while Neeld is seemingly beyond reproach?

Doesn't make sense to me, especially seeing we know more about Bailey than Neeld.

For the record, I've thought both seemed like good blokes, but to this stage I'm unimpressed by the coaching skills of either.

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What a strange thing to say...

Do you have some inherited wealth?

Might explain some things.

My dad was a civil engineer that worked at VIC roads. Teachers wages.

Ive got a business that is doing alright tho.

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Neeld brings a complicated and barely ever successful gameplan to an unsuitable MFC list and it doesn't work.

Sanderson implements a proven gameplan at AFC (essentially used at a few clubs) and it works.

I'll take the "barely successful" 2010 flag and 2011 GF thanks.

It'll be interesting this September to see how the "barely successful gameplan" goes against the "proven gameplan" - who knows maybe the Crows will manage more than 6 goals at home next time?

So Sanderson's sacked predecessor created Sanderson's success by producing a good playing list, but they didn't react positively to Sanderson's predecessor.

Neeld's plan failure is attributed to inheriting a poor playing list, despite the number of high draft picks and mid-range ladder performance in previous years, and its all his predecessor's fault anyway. Sanderson's predecessor sits in the background behind Neeld.

Yes fair analysis:

Neeld inherited a poorly drilled, poorly conditioned outfit and has to strip it back to move forward,

Sanderson has done very well on the back of a well drilled, well conditioned outfit and his real test is to come in the finals - flag or exit in straight sets from a home final?

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What you haven't seen, would be Morton, Bennell, Sylvia to a lesser extent, Bail, Strauss, Blease, Maric, Davey. None of these players have come on to a position where we could rely on them to give us a constant supply of class run & carry.

I mentioned Blease, Davey and Silvia were recruited prior to Bailey. We don't seem to be overly quick or skilled though do we? So no matter what the philosophy the recruiting and development was sub par.

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I'll take the "barely successful" 2010 flag and 2011 GF thanks.

It'll be interesting this September to see how the "barely successful gameplan" goes against the "proven gameplan" - who knows maybe the Crows will manage more than 6 goals at home next time?

The 'barely successful gameplan' was the Pies in 2010 (lucky again to obtain a draw and replay) and the proven gameplan (2007, 2009 and 2011) was the Cats - I'll take the proven anytime!

I agree it will be very interesting in September - the Cats may yet again prove to be the masters of the proven gameplan.

Regardless, I believe that the quickest way to a win is to go as straight as possible to the goals and that's been the backbone of the game since it began.

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My dad was a civil engineer that worked at VIC roads. Teachers wages.

Ive got a business that is doing alright tho.

What did RR do to upset you so?
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I merely exposed his inability to construct a coherent, logical argument.

It appears this repulses him.

We can only wonder and guess as to why.

Coherent and logical arguments are not popular around here - anyone who tries to construct one should be assisted to improve it, rather than crushed for trying.

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The 'barely successful gameplan' was the Pies in 2010 (lucky again to obtain a draw and replay) and the proven gameplan (2007, 2009 and 2011) was the Cats - I'll take the proven anytime!

I agree it will be very interesting in September - the Cats may yet again prove to be the masters of the proven gameplan.

Regardless, I believe that the quickest way to a win is to go as straight as possible to the goals and that's been the backbone of the game since it began.

18/5/12: MCG Collingwood 96 d. Geelong 84

26/5/12: AAMI Collingwood 75 d Adelaide 49

14/7/12: MCG Collingwood 110 d Geelong 79

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18/5/12: MCG Collingwood 96 d. Geelong 84

26/5/12: AAMI Collingwood 75 d Adelaide 49

14/7/12: MCG Collingwood 110 d Geelong 79

Please read the post old55 - I referred to winning flags!

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Please read the post old55 - I referred to winning flags!

Neeld brings a complicated and barely ever successful gameplan to an unsuitable MFC list and it doesn't work.

Sanderson implements a proven gameplan at AFC (essentially used at a few clubs) and it works.

I agree it will be very interesting in September - the Cats may yet again prove to be the masters of the proven gameplan.

18/5/12: MCG Collingwood 96 d. Geelong 84

26/5/12: AAMI Collingwood 75 d Adelaide 49

14/7/12: MCG Collingwood 110 d Geelong 79

So far this year the "barely ever successful gameplan" is 3-0 over the "proven gameplan", are you predicting a change of fortune come September?

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