We have way to much DEAD WOOD.

This is my list of players who IMO are not AFL standerd moving forward.

I know some will have a cry about some of these names but would any of these names get a run with Collingwood?

1. R. Bail
   
2. M. Bate
   
3. J. Bennel
   
4. L. Dunn
   
5. J. Fitzpatrick
   
6. B. Green
   
7. N. Jetta
   
8. B. Moloney
   
9. J. Spencer
   
10. M. Evens
    
11. J. Magner
    
12. K. Lawrence
    

There will be lot's of work come trade week and the draft.

see ya....

The truth is with Collingwoods development program, yes probably they would get a game, and the sad truth is some would have developed into very good footballers.

  On 07/07/2012 at 08:43, BIG JIM said:

We have way to much DEAD WOOD.

This is my list of players who IMO are not AFL standerd moving forward.

I know some will have a cry about some of these names but would any of these names get a run with Collingwood?

1. R. Bail
   
2. M. Bate
   
3. J. Bennel
   
4. L. Dunn
   
5. J. Fitzpatrick
   
6. B. Green
   
7. N. Jetta
   
8. B. Moloney
   
9. J. Spencer
   
10. M. Evens
    
11. J. Magner
    
12. K. Lawrence
    

There will be lot's of work come trade week and the draft.

I don't know why you're limiting it to Collingwood.

I reckon Bate would still get a run at the kennel as they are still shyte in the forward line.

Bennell would probably excel at WCE or Sydney - I still wow at his skills when the planets line up and he gets a touch.

  On 07/07/2012 at 08:43, BIG JIM said:

We have way to much DEAD WOOD.

This is my list of players who IMO are not AFL standerd moving forward.

I know some will have a cry about some of these names but would any of these names get a run with Collingwood?

1. R. Bail
   
2. M. Bate
   
3. J. Bennel
   
4. L. Dunn
   
5. J. Fitzpatrick
   
6. B. Green
   
7. N. Jetta
   
8. B. Moloney
   
9. J. Spencer
   
10. M. Evens
    
11. J. Magner
    
12. K. Lawrence
    

There will be lot's of work come trade week and the draft.

I agree with some of the above.

I am hugely disappointed in Ro Bail. There is a side to his game that is at time breathtaking but he has had a lot of games in two years and he still can't kick. His kicking today when there was no pressure was embarrassing to him and to the supporters.

Dunn will be kept because he plays a role and has a red hot go. He was OK today.

Magner is interesting. He needs a rest but not delisting.

Nev Jetta is a keeper. Let him get fit and have a decent preseason and see what he can do.

Keep Spencer. At times today his 2nd efforts were great. He is learning.

Agree with all but Moloney(would be in most teams best 22 with a lot more support will be a handy player where ever he ends up) Fitzpatrick Still to early to tell and Spencer thought he was ok for his 9th game. Also remember he was rushed back from a knee injury.

Bail was disgraceful today. Sounds harsh but he was so poor. Bennel is plain useless. Bate was bate today, ok in a few passages but can't mark over his head and is slow. Dunn i think he has been good down back just to many brain fades.

I think you misnamed this thread. It should be "dead forest".

GREAT series!!!!

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Simon Buckley is getting a game with the Filth reasonably regularly. Not setting the world on fire, but they are developing him. Looks much fitter and more confident than when with us.

At the moment, we couldn't even develop a bad case of jock itch.

  On 07/07/2012 at 10:27, Moonshadow said:

Simon Buckley is getting a game with the Filth reasonably regularly. Not setting the world on fire, but they are developing him. Looks much fitter and more confident than when with us.

At the moment, we couldn't even develop a bad case of jock itch.

Although his horrible turnover last night shows he would still get a game with us.

I may not agree with 1 or 2 names on your list, but I agree with the general idea of your thread.

I just want us to start playing the kids- seeing as finals is and has been out of the equation for some time now- what the f are we doing faffing about playing players that clearly aren't apart of a successful team going forward?!

Cook, Davis, Tynan, Couch, Jetta, Tynan, Gysberts- IN IMMEDIATELY (or when deemed match fit)

Leave Spencer and Martin in for the rest of the year, Jamar can take a rest and get himself cherry rip for 2013.

Bate, Bennell, Bail, Dunn, McDonald, Moloney- Thank you for your services- you are no longer required.

Time to get serious and start getting games into the next generation, because we need a rebuild and if we are serious about seeing who can cut the mustard, we MUST start next week!!

  On 07/07/2012 at 10:16, Cards13 said:

GREAT series!!!!

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What a magnificent show it is...

How many games does it take to definitively know if a player isn't going to make it? Surely Bennell is past that now. I'd argue Bail has had enough chances, I think Moloney has been found out to be a one trick pony in a game where you need to be multifaceted.

By the way, I would like to see Morton back in the team. Never thought I'd say that but I did see improvements bar the occasional momentum killing turn-over. Why isn't he afforded the same kind of continuity many of our other spuds have been given?

I just don't know where MFC selection committee's heads are at. Too conservative for my liking, and it obviously isn't working out!

BTW- any talk of McKenzie being deadwood is totally out of order morons! Would have him in the trenches with me anyday of the week! Rant over

  On 07/07/2012 at 11:15, SloonieMcFloonieloone said:

How many games does it take to definitively know if a player isn't going to make it? Surely Bennell is past that now. I'd argue Bail has had enough chances, I think Moloney has been found out to be a one trick pony in a game where you need to be multifaceted.

By the way, I would like to see Morton back in the team. Never thought I'd say that but I did see improvements bar the occasional momentum killing turn-over. Why isn't he afforded the same kind of continuity many of our other spuds have been given?

I just don't know where MFC selection committee's heads are at. Too conservative for my liking, and it obviously isn't working out!

BTW- any talk of McKenzie being deadwood is totally out of order morons! Would have him in the trenches with me anyday of the week! Rant over

IMO, Morton should never have been dropped. We were competitive when he was in. As soon as he gets dropped, we "miraculously" turn into a slow, plodding team that can't hit targets. That's because one of our best runners is gone. Now, I'm not saying that dropping Morton is the only thing that's made us worse, but it sure hasn't helped us (or him) get any better.

BRING BACK MORTON!!!

  On 07/07/2012 at 08:43, BIG JIM said:

We have way to much DEAD WOOD.

This is my list of players who IMO are not AFL standerd moving forward.

I know some will have a cry about some of these names but would any of these names get a run with Collingwood?

1. R. Bail
   
2. M. Bate
   
3. J. Bennel
   
4. L. Dunn
   
5. J. Fitzpatrick
   
6. B. Green
   
7. N. Jetta
   
8. B. Moloney
   
9. J. Spencer
   
10. M. Evens
    
11. J. Magner
    
12. K. Lawrence
    

There will be lot's of work come trade week and the draft.

Agree with all of these with maybe just 3 exceptions.

Jetta is quick and good in traffic. If he can get his kicking right and stay injury free, I'd love to see what he can do. I rate his tackling.

Moloney deserves one more year to come good. This is a flat year for sure but I think he can get back to his best. We have nothing to replace him with.

Evans... Not sure about him. Need to see more. Give him a go.

The rest? Goodbye. The Magner experiment has failed. And add Morton to the list.

  On 07/07/2012 at 11:53, Buzzy said:

Agree with all of these with maybe just 3 exceptions.

Jetta is quick and good in traffic. If he can get his kicking right and stay injury free, I'd love to see what he can do. I rate his tackling.

Moloney deserves one more year to come good. This is a flat year for sure but I think he can get back to his best. We have nothing to replace him with.

Evans... Not sure about him. Need to see more. Give him a go.

The rest? Goodbye. The Magner experiment has failed. And add Morton to the list.

Agree fully about Jetta & Evans.

I think the same applies to Fitzpatrick as applies to Evans, we haven't seen enough of him to know because of his injuries & illnesses.

I don't know what the Magner experiment is any more. I thought we got him as a clearance specialist. He showed every sign of being that, so ever since, he's been played as a defensive forward.

Moloney has had every chance this year. And totally disagree about Morton.

And there have to be at least question marks against Petterd (as much as I like him), Davey (ditto) & MacDonald.

LOL

HOW CAN YOU LIST PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T PLAYED AHEAD OF OTHERS.

caps are for effect

[censored]

i'm sorry. but green?

give up.

You are a battler.

Green would beat probably 3/4 of collingwoods list to a game.

It may only take the addition of 1-3 quality players to make these guys look so much better. The best teams have a couple of aces that make otherwise middle of the road players look good ( enough ). I think these guys will be stuffed into the cannon based on roles and fit. That said, any or all of these guys could be gone.

Morton is apparently a smart bloke and clearly had ability. A really curious case. I think we could do with a decent midfield coach - would love to see them approach Cameron Ling. Someone with real gravitas.

I don't know much about Brian Royal but our midfield is rubbish. Maybe it's just the cattle.

  On 07/07/2012 at 13:55, Friday said:

LOL

HOW CAN YOU LIST PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T PLAYED AHEAD OF OTHERS.

caps are for effect

[censored]

  On 07/07/2012 at 13:58, Friday said:

i'm sorry. but green?

give up.

You are a battler.

Green would beat probably 3/4 of collingwoods list to a game.

Both these posts make me wonder if you even follow the MFC we are SH%%

I dont like it but as i said there is lots of DEADWOOD if your happy to watch crap like i have for the last 6 years join GWS because i want my team to win [censored]

Green would never get a game at the pies you must not have been to the MCG since 2010. lol

Green has had a very solid career but it's time to acknowledge its over and bow out. No need to stick the boots in he's not a spud, he's just over the hill (in football terms).

  On 07/07/2012 at 08:43, BIG JIM said:

We have way to much DEAD WOOD.

This is my list of players who IMO are not AFL standerd moving forward.

I know some will have a cry about some of these names but would any of these names get a run with Collingwood?

1. R. Bail
   
2. M. Bate
   
3. J. Bennel
   
4. L. Dunn
   
5. J. Fitzpatrick
   
6. B. Green
   
7. N. Jetta
   
8. B. Moloney
   
9. J. Spencer
   
10. M. Evens
    
11. J. Magner
    
12. K. Lawrence
    

There will be lot's of work come trade week and the draft.

So much dead wood.

Spencer showed something today (he's showed something well before Jamar ever showed anything), while even though Magner is slow and lacks decent disposal, at least he plays for the jumper. More than could be said for quite a few others.

Agree with the rest however. I'd add question marks next to Bartram, Petterd, Morton and Sylvia. The latter three I'd seek a trade and see what we can get.

  On 07/07/2012 at 10:16, Cards13 said:

GREAT series!!!!

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Olyphant's even better in Justified.