GWS and GC have now after seven rounds also overtaken the MFC.

As a member of this club i want to know what has happened? Six months ago we were better than the Tigers, Lions, Port and even with North, Crows and Bombers.

What has our club done to make us now worse than two teams with under 10's players? it's very sad and the board has to be held to account. I'm feeling so angry that now GWS are above us.

Bring on the draft.

Don't get too excited, yes we have been pathetic, yes we are last, but it all means nothing until we play GWS and Gold Coast.

With our draw GWS would be last, with their draw we may well be 3rd last ... we are still shocking, but GWS beating Gold Coast is hardly the thing that proves it, watching us play is

And on current form we won't beat either the Giants or the Suns!

Removes any risk with Viney in the draft I guess but what a price!

The way GWS have played and the way we are playing, we would lose... simple.

Official. Bottom of the ladder.

  On 12/05/2012 at 06:13, hardtack said:

The way GWS have played and the way we are playing, we would lose... simple.

Not so sure about that, we got close to the Bulldogs, GWS were flogged, apart from that they have had a far easier draw, yet have not been close to a win in any game, we were close against the Saints as well. we'll wait and see and we may well get beaten, but as I said, until we play them it means nothing.

  On 12/05/2012 at 06:07, BIG JIM said:

GWS and GC have now after 7 rounds also over taken the MFC as a member of this club i want to know what has happen? 6 months ago we were better then the tigers,lions,port and even with north,crows,bombers what has our club done to make us now worse then 2 teams with under 10's players it's very sad and the board has to be held to account. Im feeling so angry that now GWS are above us. bring on the draft

What about the players?

I am absolutely livid. Absolutely LIVID.

Last after 7 rounds. What a joke, Melbourne. Awful, awful, insipid rabble.

Gutted

The worst part is, I can't see us winning. At all. At least under the Bailey game plan if it all came together you got a great game.

I've never been more depressed. MFCSS setting in.

  On 12/05/2012 at 06:12, deejammin said:

Don't get too excited, yes we have been pathetic, yes we are last, but it all means nothing until we play GWS and Gold Coast. With our draw GWS would be last, with their draw we may well be 3rd last..... we are still shocking, but GWS beating Gold Coast is hardly the thing that proves it, watching us play is

So we should get excited about being in front of GC & GWS, that's if we beat them, which is highly unlikely.

Watching Casey today Watts seemed to be having a great time enjoying his football, so I doubt he will ever want to play in the AFL again where it's not so much fun.

  On 12/05/2012 at 06:17, jumbo returns said:

What about the players?

What about the players there shocking. This about the club as a whole we are now 18th below GWS.

The MFC is below the 2 "Marketing Franchaises" winnless.

Now we will see who does not like it. Who really wants to get better. Because we cannot get lower.

The blame falls flatley with the board who hired neeld as head coach.

Neeld has taken us so far back that we would struggle against half of the VFL.

He has taken whatever this team has learnt over the last 4 years and completely thrown it out the window.

Such a drastic step and we are now paying for the consequences

There is one group that for too long has gotten away from any real criticism over the past year and that is the playing group. Sure the coaching group has to be accountable, but they cannot make players chase and tackle and give a damn. At least half our list is not AFL standard, tough decisions need to be made at the end of the year, although they are really simple to me.

I don't care if Neeld loses the players, i want him to return to his uncompromising heart on the sleeve self, because the players have lost me and have lost many members too. Supporters are the constant, players come and go, and hopefully many go at the end of the year. Big names need to go, to be made an example of. Moloney, Sylvia, Garland, Petterd, Davey, Garland, etc some of these names need to go and hopefully the rest get the message.

This is really sad and im gutted to be sitting below GWS. Scully would be smiling heads must roll

The dark cloud that left the MCG last year is back. Be prepared for plenty of floggings in the media this week. We deserve every single bit of it.

Gotta win next week. No more excuses. We are better than this.

Because in hindsight we've pulled the wrong rein several times over the past few years. In my opinion these include:

- Not getting our financial house in order.

- Not sacking Daniher after 2003 & then not backing him up with FD spending or not committing to genuine renewal.

- Appointing Bailey as coach/not supporting him with FD spending

- Selecting Jack Watts with pick 1

- Selecting Tom Scully with pick 1 (this thankfully can still be rectified with compo picks)

- Letting go & the handling of letting go senior players in particular James McDonald.

- Not bringing in outside leadership (we probably could've had a crack at Luke Ball)

These & many other decisions are the reasons we are where we are. I fully expect to be flamed for this & that's fine. I supported a lot of these decisions at the time & can admit I am wrong.

I hope that they line up the playing group. Different coach, same [censored] served up. Whole different admin, same [censored] served up. What's the consistent element? The playing group.

  On 12/05/2012 at 06:27, bandicoot said:

The blame falls flatley with the board who hired neeld as head coach.

Neeld has taken us so far back that we would struggle against half of the VFL.

He has taken whatever this team has learnt over the last 4 years and completely thrown it out the window.

Such a drastic step and we are now paying for the consequences

We slid back last year, remember 186?

I still think the board needs to answer questions about that, clear the air before Neeld can take the blame. I'm really p.....off but not ready to pass judgement on the new coaching group just yet.

  On 12/05/2012 at 06:25, RobbieF said:

So we should get excited about being in front of GC & GWS, that's if we beat them, which is highly unlikely.

Hey, where did I say we should get excited? I am just as gutted as everyone else, but I don't think the ladder means much, if there were 6 clubs winless and we were sitting in 12th spot I wouldn't be any happier than I am now, we are very ordinary, we haven't won a game, there is little to no improvement in sight. That a soulless franchise which is part of the reason we are winless (having stolen a player who wouldn't have left otherwise) has won a game against another apparently more soulless franchise doesn't change my feeling about our football club.

I have got to say our old leaders must go they are only there for the money and spreading there weak crap right through the club get them all out now. We all know who they are

I can't believe it's come to this. We are a weak club and have gone steadily backwards onfield for nearly two years now. People can talk about giving a players or a coach time to get used to a new gameplan, but the players don't how a hunger for the contest or a desire to win. That requires no training, that is purely attitude. We are now below GWS and GC, who both have younger and less experienced lists than us. That says a lot about how sh*t we really are.

This is the worst I have felt in decades supporting the MFC. If we don't fix themselves onfield soon, we will lose more of the new generation of supporters. This has already begun. Kids want to see exciting players and go for a winning team. We are losers, and we have no stars for kids to look up to, and thus they are not supporting us anymore.

FOR F*CKS SAKE SHOW SOME HUNGER AND WORK TOGETHER.

  On 12/05/2012 at 06:31, Hell Bent said:

The dark cloud that left the MCG last year is back. Be prepared for plenty of floggings in the media this week. We deserve every single bit of it.

Yep. If there is still bad vibes from the 186 days this next few weeks must flush them out in the open.

Can't believe the MFC trains under the same roof as the Melbourne Storm!!