List Analysis

[old dee 23,560]

Hang on boys how about we give the new coaching panel a go before we write the season off already... I reckon there are a lot of things to get excited about

I doubt anyone is writing off 2012 Bossdog.

In my case I believe a number of our players are yet to prove they are the goods.

Reputation means bugger all when the game starts.

Lets see how good they are in 2012 as you say "under a new set of conditions"

[Bossdog 2,002]

I doubt anyone is writing off 2012 Bossdog.

In my case I believe a number of our players are yet to prove they are the goods.

Reputation means bugger all when the game starts.

Lets see how good they are in 2012 as you say "under a new set of conditions"

This is why 2012 will be exciting. At least up until the first game

[DemonWA 3,889]

I doubt anyone is writing off 2012 Bossdog. In my case I believe a number of our players are yet to prove they are the goods. Reputation means bugger all when the game starts. Lets see how good they are in 2012 as you say "under a new set of conditions"

name names old dee.Who on our list has a good reputation at senior level but isnt delivering? Sylvia and who else?

[hardtack 10,441]

name names old dee.Who on our list has a good reputation at senior level but isnt delivering? Sylvia and who else?

Green and Davey spring to mind,

[DemonWA 3,889]

Green and Davey spring to mind,

3 on the list? keep them coming, becasue im under the impression that people think we dont have the cattle to play finals but IMO we've got a good bunch of young blokes coming through who will hit their strapps in the next couple of years.

[old dee 23,560]

3 on the list? keep them coming, becasue im under the impression that people think we dont have the cattle to play finals but IMO we've got a good bunch of young blokes coming through who will hit their strapps in the next couple of years.

The young guys are the ones I was refering to DWA.

We have lots of low draft picks that have to justify their selection.

The next couple of seasons will prove if they are the goods or not.

[DemonWA 3,889]

The young guys are the ones I was refering to DWA.

We have lots of low draft picks that have to justify their selection.

The next couple of seasons will prove if they are the goods or not.

Name names old dee. Which ones arent up to it?

IMO the vast majority of these young fellas can play, and if they had been drafted by a top four club would look even better than they do playing for us, where they have been playing along side a team made up predominantly of other young fellas.

[old dee 23,560]

Name names old dee. Which ones arent up to it?

IMO the vast majority of these young fellas can play, and if they had been drafted by a top four club would look even better than they do playing for us, where they have been playing along side a team made up predominantly of other young fellas.

I don't know which ones are not up to it.

That is what we have to find out.

For me they are just kids who have yet to justify their reputations.

I agree with you we have had no one to carry the load while they develop.

I said on a number of occasions last year my fear is who is going to carry the load while the kids develop.

[drdrake 3,137]

The Names are easy to identify, these players need to continue there improvement and start to show on a continued basis why they were early picks.

Watts showed a bit this year but still needs to show us he can play as a tall forward, has yet to kick over 3 goals in a game and I think only twice he has kicked 3

Morton he was an exciting junior, his last 2 years he played like he was a rookie listed player rather than a top 5 pick

Blease injury aside showed some signs last year but he needs to claim his spot

Strauss see Blease

Grimes get your body right and stay on the field

Tapscott see Grimes

Gysberts see Tapscott

Thats 7 players that have showed us potential, we need in 2012 to take big steps, play good consistant footy all are in their 3-5th AFL pre-season, these guys should be our cream and this is where our improvement needs to come from.

Edited December 14, 2011 by drdrake

[DemonWA 3,889]

from that list the only one im "worried" about is strauss, due to his most recent injury.

[DemonWA 3,889]

from that list the only one im "worried" about (apart from Morton who is a write off) is strauss, due to his most recent injury.

[drdrake 3,137]

I'm worried about all except Watts, he will be a good AFL footballer, just what position he plays is the question.

Except Blease which was an unfortunate accident, the others just can't keep fit. Even Morton everytime he starts to play with confidence he has some injury that sets him back.

On Blease I hope he can learn to work both ways, great quick on the attack but even at training he looks slow chasing. Hopefully this is a recovery thing that will be improved with more training.

[old dee 23,560]

I'm worried about all except Watts, he will be a good AFL footballer, just what position he plays is the question.

Except Blease which was an unfortunate accident, the others just can't keep fit. Even Morton everytime he starts to play with confidence he has some injury that sets him back.

On Blease I hope he can learn to work both ways, great quick on the attack but even at training he looks slow chasing. Hopefully this is a recovery thing that will be improved with more training.

Agree dd I have a similiar opinion.

Blease is a good example, he was a good junior

Has played a couple of games and showed some promise however he caught those side napping.

It will not happen in 2012 he will get a lot more attention from the other team.

Then we will see if he can cut the Mustard.

Interesting times ahead

[Bossdog 2,002]

Also his best game was against Gold Coast against other kids

[Hannibal 5,814]

and yet with all this with 4 games to go in the season we where a chance to make the 8.

Playing finals gives me no jollies, but yes, it's a prerequisite and a building block for the only thing that matters.

Half the competition and some very ordinary teams play finals every year.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Totally agree OD

Last year was totally abyssmal.

With Neelds Clean slate, players will have to earn a game. Not just be given a game to put games into young bodies.

So a lot of these young AFL princess wannabes at the club who think they are the cream of the crop. Just suck it up and show us exactly what you are made of.

Short of finishing in the 8 anything else is unacceptable. If this is the case then Neeld & co. will have had a look at the team for a year, and then start to clear out the dead wood.

I agree. Just plug em in and play. Its does not matter how young they are. If they can get a licence and vote at 18 then they should be dominanting at AFL and that goes for bigger players as well.

Anything less than top 4 wont be acceptable.

Back on Earth, there were a number of reasons for our abysmal year some we could control, many we couldnt control. Young player list that rivalled GC without the bona fide star. Crippling injuries, outrageous tribunal decisions and the destabilisation of the Scully saga. Not to mention the even more abysmal off field shenanigans which the MFC Board and management participated in.

Too many people are prepared to cherry pick issues without looking at the quantum. And FWIW, I dont expect the team to make the 8 given there will be adjustment to Neeld's plan and philosophy. If his game plan is that much different to the prior year its naive to think it will be learned and properly implemented just over the summer. There have been enough recent examples to show that may not necessarily be the case.

For me they are just kids who have yet to justify their reputations.

I agree with you we have had no one to carry the load while they develop.

I said on a number of occasions last year my fear is who is going to carry the load while the kids develop.

Reputations??? The only ones are what exist here. And they are often overblown to suit posters esxpectations that they will dominate in the 1st or 2nd year. As you point they are kids and there is a lack of senior players to support. MFC have said players need to get at least 50 games into them to have the maturity to stand up. With ready made players like Clark and the list (most of it) being a year older, I look forward to the improvement.