Thanks for the warning jayceebee31.

I'm truly shivering in my boots concerning the revelation about having Demetriou on my back.

Should I hire a bodyguard?

I would certainly visit a back specialist.

Fletcher Roberts - 3/6/93,195,84. Kicked 5 goals in the GF, missed a couple of sitters. Inside Football - "... an exciting player with a great football brain. He is a great decision maker, who hasn't had a preseason due to cricket commitments at Melbourne Grammar. Can play both ends in a Leigh Brown type role."

I guess some here may reject him on the basis of being a private school toff, regarding them all as soft.........like for example Campbell Brown, Dean Chiron.........

If he ends up in the AFL, I can't wait for the call from the crowd when he screws up.

I am an inveterate Daily Show fan, and anybody who is also will be unable to stop a certain Daily Show term slipping out.

I am an inveterate Daily Show fan, and anybody who is also will be unable to stop a certain Daily Show term slipping out.

Indecision 2012 - The Clutterbuck to the Whitehouse.

I'm truly shivering in my boots concerning the revelation about having Demetriou on my back.

Doesn't anyone else find the idea of having Demetriou on your back a bit, well.... creepy?

The current PTT List:-

FULL PERMISSION TO TRAIN LIST

Adelaide

James Craig (Adelaide Crows), Will Young (Adelaide Crows).

Brisbane 

Nil.

Carlton

Nicholas Heyne (St Kilda).

 Collingwood

Daniel Farmer (Collingwood), Scott Reed (Collingwood), Trent Stubbs (Collingwood).

Essendon

Matt Little (Bendigo Bombers), Anthony Long (Essendon).

Fremantle

Zac Dawson (St Kilda), Brad Dick (Collingwood), Clancee Pearce (Fremantle).

Geelong

Nil.

Gold Coast Suns

Michael Coad (Gold Coast), Aaron Hall (Hobart), Andrew McQualter (St Kilda).

GWS Giants

Nil.

Hawthorn

Paul Johnson (Hawthorn).

Melbourne

Freddie Clutterbuck (East Perth), Tom Couch (Collingwood / Bell Park), Carl Nicolson (Glenelg), Fletcher Roberts (Sandringham Dragons), Jai Sheahan (Geelong Falcons).

North Melbourne

Marcus Darmody (North Ballarat), Lachlan Fairley (Western Jets), Liam Hoy (North Ballarat), Brad Mangan (Werribee), Will Martinello (Werribee), Tate Oliver (North Ballarat), Sean Tighe (Werribee), Gavin Urquhart (North Melbourne).

Port Adelaide

Ed Lower (North Melbourne).

Richmond

Pat Contin (Richmond), David Fahey (Coburg), Glen Grgic (Coburg), Ben Jakobi (Richmond), John McCarthy (Collingwood), Addam Maric (Melbourne), Leigh Masters (Coburg), William Wheeler (Coburg).

St Kilda

Ben Casley (GWS), Beau Dowler (Noble Park), James Hallahan (Sandringham), Danny Hughes (Sandringham), Michael Lourey (Sandringham), James Magner (Sandringham), Marcus Marigliani (Sandringham).

Sydney Swans

Harry Cunningham (Turvey Park), Campbell Heath (Sydney Swans), Jackson Potter (Pennant Hills), Mitch Thompson (Sydney University).

West Coast

Nil.

Western Bulldogs

Mark Austin (Carlton).

The names of a handful of players under the Alternative Signings category have also been announced:

 

Out of contract primary list draft nomination

 Nil

  

International player inclusion on rookie list

Collingwood - Caolan Mooney (Ireland) 

Richmond - John Heslin (Ireland)

  

Players not registered or played for three years inclusion on rookie list

 Geelong - Mark Blicavs (Athletics)

  

NSW scholarship player and international scholarship player inclusion on rookie list

 Brisbane Lions - Richard Newell (NSW Scholarship)

 

Carlton - Matthew Lodge (NSW Scholarship)

 

Collingwood - Michael Hartley (NSW Scholarship)

 

Sydney Swans - Jack Lynch (NSW Scholarship)

  

Alternative talent

 Adelaide Crows - Ben Dowdell.

Additions to the Permission to Train list as of today:

• Essendon - Aaron Day (Woodville West Torrens)

• Melbourne - Leigh Williams (Norwood, EFL)

• Western Bulldogs - Matt Jones (Labrador)

How appropriate that the Bulldogs have a player from Labrador training with them.

Additions to the Permission to Train list as of today:

• Essendon - Aaron Day (Woodville West Torrens)

• Melbourne - Leigh Williams (Norwood, EFL)

• Western Bulldogs - Matt Jones (Labrador)

I find it very interesting that 3 of the six are talls,it seems like we will take at least one tall if not two.And hope we can turn one of them into another Tom McDonald., whom, I believe will turn into an elite footballer.

I don't think we will add anymore to try out. Furthermore, I think of the six training, it is likely we will only pick maybe 2/3 of them.

Well currently all 3 of our rookies are small mids so wouldnt be surprised to see 2 out of our 4 picks be talls.

would love to see us pick up sheehan, williams, crisp and nelson but doubt we will have our pick of all 4

if crisp and nelson fell through to us it would be brilliant but doubtful. sheehan and williams on the otherhand

should both be available to us

Hopefully we can pick up two outside midfielders who can run and carry, perhaps a clutterback and nelson. Then with the second two maybe taller players like sheehan. Not sure if L williams will be able to make the step from EFL to AFL?

Dont know if this is where it *should* be discussed but players from leafues such as the Ammo's could be really smart, or VFL, SANFL and WAFL...

In 2010 Isaac Smith started the year in Ballarat's BFL for Redan, went to North Ballarat, played less than 8 games, got drafted and was a great pick up who made an impact in his first year for the Hawks. Also we had Nicho from the Ammo's. Duigan from SANFL, we all know about Barlow, Stratton at the Hawks also, Pods quite a few coming through from the countries second tier comps nationally, when they are given genuine opportunity at an AFL club.

I also know alot do not make it, was more highlighting Nicho and Smith who came basically from 4-5th tier comps in 12 months to show they are exciting propects.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/clutterbucks-afl-dream-in-sight/story-e6frg243-1226213492982

How appropriate that the Bulldogs have a player from Labrador training with them.

I didn't think that Labradors and Bulldogs were very compatible: but they did pick up an old boxer a couple of years back, and though he was near the end of his leash he did ok for them.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/clutterbucks-afl-dream-in-sight/story-e6frg243-1226213492982

I wonder if Scuttlebutt really has the drive .....says "it would be fantastic to be in an AFL list even for a year", or maybe just being modest.

Let's hope he turns out the goods and is just bring modest.

With Mark Neeld wanting to keep his hand firmly on the tiller I wouldn't be surprised to see the majority of our rookie picks come from our permission to train list.

I wonder if Scuttlebutt really has the drive .....says "it would be fantastic to be in an AFL list even for a year", or maybe just being modest.

Let's hope he turns out the goods and is just bring modest.

OF COURSE ITS MODESTY. i think almost any young male footy fan/player would be thinking the same thing... basically saying he'd appreciate even 1 year on a list, but would obviously love many more!

With Mark Neeld wanting to keep his hand firmly on the tiller I wouldn't be surprised to see the majority of our rookie picks come from our permission to train list.

Fair comment and we seem to have the right mix with regards what we think we need to supplement the list.However do you agree with the types we have asked to train.

With Mark Neeld wanting to keep his hand firmly on the tiller I wouldn't be surprised to see the majority of our rookie picks come from our permission to train list.

Wouldn't that be entirely dependent upon how well they scrub up "on the track"? I would hope that they have their eyes on alternative prospects... given his Collingwood background, I would think Couch is a monty to get a place, but as for the rest... who knows.

Fair comment and we seem to have the right mix with regards what we think we need to supplement the list.However do you agree with the types we have asked to train.

I'd like to see us draft a small forward prospect (not sure if we've got any of them on the PTT list?) and a ready-to-play mature mid or two (I think we're going to play a grinding game that will require plenty of soldiers). A speculative tall forward if there's one worth considering. The rookie draft can be a good place to look for ruckmen but I don't think we need any more, or tall backs or medium forwards.

Small forward we definitely lack and running outside mids.But definitely do not need any other budding ruck man - that would be an overkill and a waste IMO.

I'd like to see us draft a small forward prospect (not sure if we've got any of them on the PTT list?) and a ready-to-play mature mid or two (I think we're going to play a grinding game that will require plenty of soldiers). A speculative tall forward if there's one worth considering. The rookie draft can be a good place to look for ruckmen but I don't think we need any more, or tall backs or medium forwards.

If Leigh Williams was the solid blond bloke training yesterday then he looks a chance and maybe your speculative tall forward. Very good build. Sam Blease is doing his training with the forwards and may well be the "small" forward you're after.

I didn't see Couch yesterday but that means little.

Williams (assuming he was the tall blond kid) looked very promising. Certainly a very good size and took one or two very strong marks. That said, it's hard to tell a whole lot from a training session!

In the transition drills Blease was swapping with Davey as the small forward. Davey did some very good pressure acts in this, which was reminiscent of his early days.