Jump to content

Melbourne - the "HARD" team

Featured Replies

Posted

Football is a sport not for the feint hearted. It is at times akin to a gladiatoral scene of carnage. We as supporters would like to think that the team we support is up to the challenge , that they are of sufficiently stern and robust stuff to make a stand. Its a very athletic and skillful game for sure but we're as impressed by the mettle shown by our combatants. You dont shirk, you dont absolve your duty....you do.

Over time various teams take on an aura. Some are seen as determined, some as gifted and some as just plain hard. I must confess I dont think of our beloved Demons as 'Hard'. With some talent, of ability, frustrating, inconsistent ...yes. Hard, no ! I lament this.

But all this is about to change or so it is the belief of our new coach Mark Neeld. "I simply want to coach the team that is the hardest to play against in the AFL,"

Now I suspect there might be a slight differing in terms of definition between Hardest and Hard. But in order to BE the hardest you must surely be the hardest at it.

Therefor there will be no second guessing, no feigning, no panicking. There WILL be a methodical and unbending dedication to the cause and that is to make it the hardest day for any opposition on occasions when they come up against the might Dees.

For this to happen the make up of some elements of the team will need to change. If the notion of 'bruise free' was to be dismissed then now it is to be banished. Every contest is just that , a contest. Its not sonething to be spectated, well not by the players and ive seen this occur far to ooften; the waiting for someone else to do the HARD work.

I cant wait to see this new improved hard Melbourne. Ive waited far too many years to see teams called the Demons feared like ones.

In watching Collingwood you sense theres not too much room for 'outside' playing. In fact when you look at the teams that are in the finals you see a common thread. They are indeed hard to play and hard at the ball.

We arent, not yet. Looking forward to seeing this New Melbourne. I would think the list will look a little different next season, not just because some nameswont be there but because I imagine ( or more proable, hope ) some will have transformed themselves , some beyond recent recognition.

Go Dees.......the new hard ones !! :)

 

This is exactly what we need!

Weed out the softies, the ones that are'nt 100% hammer and tongs commited.

Relentless tough football.

Jack Viney will be the icing on the cake.

I see the light!

 

Queens Birthday Buckley v Neeld.

85-90,000 is definately possible now....

Sweet.

And it's our home game and therefore we get the gate takings. Bring it on!


Cale Morton to be chief storm trooper of the new, hard Melbourne.

Oh hang on...

Thanks muchly I needed the smile,,,, :

:mellow:

Go Dees Give 'em HELL !!!

This is what I demand. We can't have another 186. We can't get flogged by 10+ goals every other week. We must contest every game. We must want to win EVERY game.

  • Author

Queens Birthday Buckley v Neeld.

85-90,000 is definately possible now....

Sweet.

The battle of the proteges !!

Weve invariably ( most years ) managed to come to this game...to play. Now I think we'll come to this game to administer pain.

Going to very interesting...always is...but more so now ;)

 

Very excited indeed. It may be a rude awakening for some of our players, but its come to that point where its either, shape up or ship out. I look very much forward to seeing our boys play hard, tough, consistent footy; something that I can honestly say I don't remember seeing for a long time.

Football is a sport not for the feint hearted. It is at times akin to a gladiatoral scene of carnage. We as supporters would like to think that the team we support is up to the challenge , that they are of sufficiently stern and robust stuff to make a stand. Its a very athletic and skillful game for sure but we're as impressed by the mettle shown by our combatants. You dont shirk, you dont absolve your duty....you do.

Over time various teams take on an aura. Some are seen as determined, some as gifted and some as just plain hard. I must confess I dont think of our beloved Demons as 'Hard'. With some talent, of ability, frustrating, inconsistent ...yes. Hard, no ! I lament this.

But all this is about to change or so it is the belief of our new coach Mark Neeld. "I simply want to coach the team that is the hardest to play against in the AFL,"

Now I suspect there might be a slight differing in terms of definition between Hardest and Hard. But in order to BE the hardest you must surely be the hardest at it.

Therefor there will be no second guessing, no feigning, no panicking. There WILL be a methodical and unbending dedication to the cause and that is to make it the hardest day for any opposition on occasions when they come up against the might Dees.

For this to happen the make up of some elements of the team will need to change. If the notion of 'bruise free' was to be dismissed then now it is to be banished. Every contest is just that , a contest. Its not sonething to be spectated, well not by the players and ive seen this occur far to ooften; the waiting for someone else to do the HARD work.

I cant wait to see this new improved hard Melbourne. Ive waited far too many years to see teams called the Demons feared like ones.

In watching Collingwood you sense theres not too much room for 'outside' playing. In fact when you look at the teams that are in the finals you see a common thread. They are indeed hard to play and hard at the ball.

We arent, not yet. Looking forward to seeing this New Melbourne. I would think the list will look a little different next season, not just because some nameswont be there but because I imagine ( or more proable, hope ) some will have transformed themselves , some beyond recent recognition.

Go Dees.......the new hard ones !! :)

Watched a fair bit of the game last night and I couldn't believe how hard Hawthorn were at the ball. They were relentless and I guess that that's the way you need to play to win finals.

Hopefully we can play that way in the future because we haven't played that way in the past few years.

Interesting Article on the club site.

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/7415/newsid/123628/default.aspx


Who? Neeld? Neale D? What?

On a serious note - I love him already. He's signed up, and the first thing he's said is that the club needs to harden the **** up. No passengers.

Very excited indeed. It may be a rude awakening for some of our players, but its come to that point where its either, shape up or ship out. I look very much forward to seeing our boys play hard, tough, consistent footy; something that I can honestly say I don't remember seeing for a long time.

The MCG deserves to have the Red and Blue in charge on it's own Grass

It has been way too long...................

I'll believe the hard edge when I see it. Making this list (and club) hard will be a hell of a task... Jones, Moloney, McKenzie... they can all sit back and relax... but Morton's gonna be sitting in the corner in a ball peeing his pants, rocking back and forth.

This pre-season had better be painful for all concerned. Cos it's painful for us.

Queens Birthday Buckley v Neeld.

85-90,000 is definately possible now....

Sweet.

Count me in!!!! Neeld vs Buckley, which one learnt better from the so called master coach ;). I think that crowd will only roll in if we are playing well and i can almost guarantee that no club will call us soft again. HARDEN THE **** UP WAS HIS MESSAGE, HARDEN THE **** UP IS WHAT WE WILL DO! FROM ADVERSITY COMES HARDNESS! BRING ON 2012

I'll believe the hard edge when I see it.

I am with you too Dappa Dan. We will see in pre-season how much the blokes have hardened up! I can sense a great season awaiting in 2012


So did I but then again, when the guy says things like that and he looks like he cudda killed someone at that presser, I think it was the HARDEN THE **** UP approach

  • Author

I took " 'Hardest' to play" to mean " 'Difficult' to beat".

But I do believe we need to harden up and hope he achieves that too.

In essence it does.. and I touched upon that . But there is a commn denominator amongst the better teams, they are hard of mind. They are resolute. Theres no dithering. Invariably the hardest teams to play are those who are the best trained, best equiped , best skilled and those prepared to best their opponents. To do this week in week out you need to steel your resolve and take the knocks without flinching.

Melbourne have been accused of playing pretty football. It looks terrific but is succeptible to to hard and persistent testing. We have gone to butter all too often. Butter is soft.

We need to be hardand play hard in order to be hard to play.

This is exactly what we need!

Weed out the softies, the ones that are'nt 100% hammer and tongs commited.

Relentless tough football.

Jack Viney will be the icing on the cake.

I see the light!

Heard him on MMM and he went about us being hard again, I can't wait either because I've been around the Demons all my life and there's only been a couple of times when we have been hard, it's going to be interesting, he'll have to get rid of a few players which is good.

I wanted a tried and true senior AFL coach, ideally someone who had coached a premiership (Choco, MM, Paul Roos, Lethal)...

However in saying that I was impressed with how he spoke in the press confrence, and also very impressed when Malthouse said he would not put up with players that didnt play his way.

We have a few "hard" players - Beamer, Chipper, Tappy, Jones... But they are not near a J. Brown or J. Selwood which is what we need.

I hope he can make some of the guys accountable, especially the senior guys that went missing in so many games this year.

Fingers crossed and time will tell...


I took " 'Hardest' to play" to mean " 'Difficult' to beat".

But I do believe we need to harden up and hope he achieves that too.

I picked up on that too.

I wonder if he's being diplomatic. Otherwise it's a nothing statement. I think the former is true, he got the term 'hard' in, without making too hard a statement. Love him already.

I picked up on that too.

I wonder if he's being diplomatic. Otherwise it's a nothing statement. I think the former is true, he got the term 'hard' in, without making too hard a statement. Love him already.

Listened to the MMM interview and he talked about being hard again. But this time when pressed on what that meant by Barrett I think, then he unequivocally stated that we would be a HARD football team.

I was under no illusions that he meant ferociously hard at the FOOTY and by extension the hardest team to play.

The thing about the pies I like is that if one of their players misses/loses a one on one contest they genuinely seem [censored] with themselves and the bust their gut to make for it the very next second. If he can instil that culture into our team then he will have done an enormous job.

 

Hard? I'll give you hard: our kick outs. No one has yet solved the riddle of Melbourne's kick outs.

Hard? I'll give you hard: our kick outs. No one has yet solved the riddle of Melbourne's kick outs.

Frawley is the only b*stard who should be kicking out. To whom is another question.


Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Featured Content

  • PREVIEW: Essendon

    As the focus of the AFL moves exclusively to South Australia for Gather Round, the question is raised as to what are we going to get from the  Melbourne Football Club this weekend? Will it be a repeat of the slop fest of the last three weeks that have seen the team score a measly 174 points and concede 310 or will a return to the City of Churches and the scene where they performed at their best in 2024 act as a wakeup call and bring them out of their early season reverie? 
    Or will the sleepy Dees treat their fans to a reenactment of their lazy effort from the first Gather Round of two years ago when they allowed the Bombers to trample all over them on a soggy and wet Adelaide Oval? The two examples from above tell us how fickle form can be in football. Last year, a committed group of players turned up in Adelaide with a businesslike mindset. They had a plan, went in confidently and hard for the football and kicked winning scores against both home teams in a difficult environment for visitors. And they repeated that sort of effort later in the season when they played Essendon at the MCG. Unfortunately, performances like these went against the grain of what Melbourne has been producing from virtually midway through 2024 and extending right through to the present day. This is a game between two clubs who have faltered over the past couple of years because their disposal efficiency is appalling. Neither of them can hit the side of a barn door but history tells us that every once in a while such teams have their lucky days or come up against an opponent in even worse shape and hence, one of them will come up trumps in this match.

    • 0 replies
    Demonland
  • PREGAME: Essendon

    Facing the very real and daunting prospect of starting the season with five straight losses, the Demons head to South Australia for the annual Gather Round, where they’ll take on the Bombers in search of their first win of the year. Who comes in, and who comes out?

      • Like
    • 256 replies
    Demonland
  • NON-MFC: Round 05

    Gather Round is here, kicking off with a Thursday night blockbuster as Adelaide faces Geelong. The Crows will be out for redemption after a controversial loss last week. Saturday starts with the Magpies taking on the Swans. Collingwood will be eager to cement their spot in the top eight, while Sydney is hot on their heels. In the Barossa Valley, two rising sides go head-to-head in a fascinating battle to prove they're the real deal. Later, Carlton and West Coast face off at Adelaide Oval, both desperate to notch their first win of the season. The action then shifts to Norwood, where the undefeated Lions will aim to keep their streak alive against the Bulldogs. Sunday’s games begin in the Barossa with Richmond up against Fremantle. In Norwood, the Saints will be looking to take a scalp when they come up against the Giants. The round concludes with a fiery rematch of last year's semi-final, as the Hawks seek revenge for their narrow loss to Port Adelaide. Who are you tipping this week and what are the best results for the Demons besides us winning?

    • 17 replies
    Demonland
  • CASEY: Geelong

    There was a time in the second quarter of the game at the Cattery on Friday afternoon when the Casey Demons threatened to take the game apart against the Cats. The Demons had been well on top early but were struggling to convert their ascendancy over the ground until Tom Fullarton’s burst of three goals in the space of eight minutes on the way to a five goal haul and his best game for the club since arriving from Brisbane at the end of 2023. He was leading, marking and otherwise giving his opponents a merry dance as Casey grabbed a three goal lead in the blink of an eye. Fullarton has now kicked ten goals in Casey’s three matches and, with Melbourne’s forward conversion woes, he is definitely in with a chance to get his first game with the club in next week’s Gather Round in Adelaide. Despite the tall forward’s efforts - he finished with 19 disposals and eight marks and had four hit outs as back up to Will Verrall in the second half - it wasn’t enough as Geelong reigned in the lead through persistent attacks and eventually clawed their way to the lead early in the last and held it till they achieved the end aim of victory.

    • 0 replies
    Demonland
  • REPORT: Geelong

    I was disappointed to hear Goody say at his post match presser after the team’s 39 point defeat against Geelong that "we're getting high quality entry, just poor execution" because Melbourne’s problems extend far beyond that after its 0 - 4 start to the 2025 football season. There are clearly problems with poor execution, some of which were evident well before the current season and were in play when the Demons met the Cats in early May last year and beat them in a near top-of-the-table clash that saw both sides sitting comfortably in the top four after round eight. Since that game, the Demons’ performances have been positively Third World with only five wins in 19 games with a no longer majestic midfield and a dysfunctional forward line that has become too easy for opposing coaches to counter. This is an area of their game that is currently being played out as if they were all completely panic-stricken.

    • 0 replies
    Demonland
  • NON-MFC: Round 04

    Round 4 kicks off with a blockbuster on Thursday night as traditional rivals Collingwood and Carlton clash at the MCG, with the Magpies looking to assert themselves as early-season contenders and the Blues seeking their first win of the season. Saturday opens with Gold Coast hosting Adelaide, a key test for the Suns as they aim to back up their big win last week, while the Crows will be looking to keep their perfect record intact. Reigning wooden spooners Richmond have the daunting task of facing reigning premiers Brisbane at the ‘G and the Lions will be eager to reaffirm their premiership credentials after a patchy start. Saturday night sees North Melbourne take on Sydney at Marvel Stadium, with the Swans looking to build on their first win of the season last week against a rebuilding Roos outfit. Sunday’s action begins with GWS hosting West Coast at ENGIE Stadium, a game that could get ugly very early for the visitors. Port Adelaide vs St Kilda at Adelaide Oval looms as a interesting clash, with both clubs form being very hard to read. The round wraps up with Fremantle taking on the Western Bulldogs at Optus Stadium in what could be a fierce contest between two sides with top-eight ambitions. Who are you tipping this week and what are the best results for the Demons besides us winning?

      • Shocked
      • Like
    • 273 replies
    Demonland