OK so we have had an up and down year but I for one am pretty happy to be sitting on 4.5 wins 5.5 losses

The side has shown what they can do even missing 5 of their best 22

It's time to put our eye back on the original goal

Coll - mark it down as a loss but it has to be acknowledged we step up against them and we have some form and confidence

Freo at the G - win

Rich - win

Dogs at ES - should win

port at Darwin - should win

Hawks - loss

Cats - loss

Carlton - loss

Eagles at ES - should win

rich - win

GC -win

Port at aami - probably lose

for mine that puts us on 11.5 wins and 8th spot

Substitute those 'should win games' at Etihad to losses.

I wouldn't say the Richmond games are gimme's either.

Expect an unexpected loss or three, and an unexpected win or three. Maybe, but most likely no. We still have no reliable form-line to make a prediction, and you can put another 10 teams in this position.

Substitute those 'should win games' at Etihad to losses.

sooner or later we will start winning there, those opponents aren't exactly top notch

OK so we have had an up and down year but I for one am pretty happy to be sitting on 4.5 wins 5.5 losses

The side has shown what they can do even missing 5 of their best 22

It's time to put our eye back on the original goal

Coll - mark it down as a loss but it has to be acknowledged we step up against them and we have some form and confidence

Freo at the G - win (played well today at the G so more 50/50)

Rich - win (have played well agianst some good sides)

Dogs at ES - should win (who knows how they will play)

port at Darwin - should win (They played very well up there against the tigers)

Hawks - loss

Cats - loss

Carlton - loss

Eagles at ES - should win (they are a good side and at the awful ground)

rich - win (see before)

GC -win (if ablett plays well you never know)

Port at aami - probably lose

All im saying is its a pretty tall order, but i am still hopeful

lets try n play some consistent footy before getting ahead of ourselves!

I used the AFL ladder Predictor.....and we will finish... 5th

This is taking in account other results per round...

The draw really opens up for us in terms of the teams we play, and the tougher fixture for other teams vying for a finals spot.

6 to 13th place I have us finishing.

So far we have seen that anyone can literally beat anyone on their day.

Except maybe the top 2 or 3 teams.

Sydney in a home final would be a cracker, draw this year big win last year.

Don't think it will happen but you can dream.

Next 4 weeks is telling Pies, Freo, Tiges, Dogs.

Need to win 3 out of next 4 to contend for finals.

Need to win 3 out of next 4 to contend for finals.

and we should!

We won't beat West Coast at this stage.

The fixture:

- Collingwood, MCG - Loss

- Freo, MCG - Win

- Richmond, MCG - Win??

- Dogs, Etihad - Loss??

- Bye (Rd16)

- Port, Darwin - Win

- Hawthorn, MCG - Loss

- Geelong, Skilled - Loss

- Carlton, MCG - Loss

- West Coast, Etihad - Loss??

- Richmond, MCG - Win??

- Gold Coast, MCG - Win

- Port, AAMI - Win??

Which means 6-8 wins for the rest of the year to put us on 10-12. We need to win 12 and currently possibly 13 to make the 'F' word which I dare not utter.

It'll be close, I'm expecting 9th-10th though.

This is such a pointless exercise. And I have an exam tomorrow. Nonetheless, I shall now do it:

Coll (MCG) - Lose

Freo (MCG) - Win (we match up against them well, still no Sandilands, even though they played well today, and they'll have Barlow back, I'm confident)

Rich (MCG) - Win (not confident at all)

Dogs (Etihad) - Lose (at the G, we'd win, but not at Etihad)

Port (TIO) - Win (no confidence with this either, but Port is rubbish)

Hawks (MCG) - Lose

Geel (SS) - Lose

Carlton (MCG) - Lose

West Coast (Etihad) - Win (absolutely no confidence with this one either, but by this stage I reckon West Coast will be tiring, and our season will be on the line. Pretty optimistic though)

Rich (MCG) - Win (still no confidence)

GC (MCG) - Win (the only one I can confidently predict as a win, as I reckon by this stage the Suns will be knackered and hopeless)

Port (AAMI) - Lose (we could be on top of the ladder, and we'd still lose this)

That gives us 10.5 wins, which is a pass mark for this year, provided of course we play decent football doing it.

We could easily lose most of those wins. In saying that, at our best we can beat the Dogs, Port and even Carlton. Pretty simply, it's all about consistency. If we can get some consistency (at the level we displayed on Friday of course), then anything's possible. If we hop back on the rollercoaster, though, we're no shot at all.

Will definitely need 12.5 wins to get 8th, given how many wins there will be against the Queensland and S.A. teams.

I think we'll get around the 8-11 mark and finish 9th-13th.

NO.

And on the performances this season we don't deserve to be.

Aside from the GC game, there is not one game there where we are or should be clear favorites because we all know what our formline is like.

I want to see the team go close but not quite make it so that the drive is there for next year to teach our players that they need to be far more consistent in their workrate and application throughout the WHOLE season in order to be rewarded with a top 8 place.

FYI, based on current ladder positions, if all teams that are higher beat the lower team for the remainder of the season we will finish 9th (behind Fremantle)

Of course, this is totally ridiculous because it will never happen but it does take into consideration other teams' draws when calculating our final position.

It also doesn't account for Fremantle's current short term woes, St Kilda's gradual and impending improvement or our own unpredictability.

No.

(We'll play finals next year, though).

Actually, I'll put my neck out. We'll finish 10th.

Simply because everyone knows Richmond will finish 9th.

I will tell you after Queens Birthday....i feel good about next week.

The Scull is back....we have a good run home....Bailey wants the job..... B)

Actually, I'll put my neck out. We'll finish 10th.

Simply because everyone knows Richmond will finish 9th.

lol. it's looking every bit the absolute monty the Tigers will end up 9th again.

I recon the Demons will beat Carlton in Round 20, have a few reasons for 4 committed quarters. Although the Demons need to start winning away from the MCG. BTW I think Essendon pretty much laid down, a lot like Adelaide and everybody got ahead of themselves after that game.

Tell you what, if Bailey was smart about it he wouldn't have even mentioned MM calling Maric a cheat in-house, he would have saved it for this week.

Any mention of the 8 should be put off until we can string a few weeks together with some consistent form. Shouldn't be getting ahead of ourselves after a (albeit very good) win against an overrated and depleted side.

Only if we become more consistent