Misinformation to muddy the waters - certainly don't tell people publically what you really want. That gives leverage to the other side.

If quoted accurately this is a strange choice of words. Sounds like there is some frustration there.

No, GWS MD 2 for pick 3

I just get the feeling that we will want one of Toumpas or Grundy. Your scenario would rule that out.

What if we offered 13 plus a player, say Petterd for Caddy and maybe Toy and maybe a swap of draft picks after the second round. That way your scenario of pick 4 for MD pick is more likely, with maybe GWS giving their second round pick to us.

The permutations can give you a migraine.

It seems like GC want to keep pick 2 and yet have ruled out two players Crows would want in exchange. Maybe that is posturing and pick 13 and a player would get their deal done.

At the end of the day I just want us to come out saying we had a great October, because we certainly had a pathetic April-August.

I'm pretty sure that would all be considered draft tampering.

Did Bally or Collingwood get pinged?

Yes, pick him up at 3. I imagine Sheedy's mob screwed with his mind to get him to join them at 2.

Can we trade pick 3 to the Maggies for pick 18 which is still in the first round? And they would give us 39 for our 64.

Can we trade pick 3 to the Maggies for pick 18 which is still in the first round? And they would give us 39 for our 64.

Wtf? No not a chance in hell

This is why we need him. If others are saying he isnt a top 3 then why are gold coast looking at him. YOu know why because he is ready to go. I love his passion and you know he would be devastated if we dont get him. I like it how he has come out and said this.

The ovbious thing is do we want a kid that we know will be at our club for 10 years who is ready to go round 1 and is tough and doesnt hold back or do we get a kid who has potential but may never live up to it. Lets remember we chose morton at 4.

Says if we don't pick him he won't come back to us - he will make us 'pay'.

Bit weird this story coming out. "I don't owe anything to Melbourne aside from my Dad playing there."

Clearly he doesn't want to go to the Gold Coast but this article worries me.....

You're kidding aren't you? I am not worried by the article, but super impressed!

The guy is a professional footballer first, not a lackey for the MFC. He is also only 18. He is saying that he wants to come to the MFC NOW, but if he doesn't, he will play his heart out for whoever has the faith in him. If every player was actually secretly hatching a plan to come to the club they barracked for as a kid (or that their Dad played at) before they even kicked an AFL ball in anger, that would be far greater cause for concern.

I also object to the title saying he has threatened us. Not at all. He is saying he will offer his loyalty to whoever offers it to him.

I can't blame him for saying what he said. After all he is going to be a professional player not a MFC fan. We as fans would do anything for the club so in turn we would come back to Melbourne after 2 years but if I was Viney I would shove it up the MFC as well if they didn't pick me.

Viney jnr sure doesn't seem to lack any confidence!

Looking forward to this all being over

Did Bally or Collingwood get pinged?

Different situation with Father/Son, especially with new bidding system the AFL would not like to see undermined. The AFL would have no hesitation in coming down hard on Melbourne.

I cannot believe this, amateur hour again at the MFC! Obviously the correct response would be to say that he understands we have to go with the best pick available, and that hopefully he can one day make it to the MFC. That would cast some doubt into GWS/GC and maybe scare them out of screwing us over. He has gone and done the complete opposite, in effect gauranteeing the Suns will now nominate him and we lose what might have been a 'free' top 3 player. Isn't anyone at the club, including his father, smart enough to work out what to tell the kid to say in the media? Nice start to your career Jack, you've just cost us pick 3 with utter stupidity... and what kind of way is that to talk about the club anyway, who does he think he is? Now we can look forward to the player taken at pick 5 becoming another NicNat to our Watts. Idiots every single one of them.

Joe Daniher was asked this morning on SEN who was the best junior footballer he'd seen. His answer was Jack Viney. He said being around Viney had helped his development and that he'd never seen anyone before that had his fierceness, willingness and determination. He said it's amazing.

Yet some supporters would rather pass if we have to give up pick 3. Daniher has played against Whitfield, Toumpas and rucked against Grundy, yet Viney is the best junior he's seen.

Just be thankful.

Different situation with Father/Son, especially with new bidding system the AFL would not like to see undermined. The AFL would have no hesitation in coming down hard on Melbourne.

Oh well then... If there's no precedent for the new system, then I'll take your word for it.

I cannot believe this, amateur hour again at the MFC! Obviously the correct response would be to say that he understands we have to go with the best pick available, and that hopefully he can one day make it to the MFC. That would cast some doubt into GWS/GC and maybe scare them out of screwing us over. He has gone and done the complete opposite, in effect gauranteeing the Suns will now nominate him and we lose what might have been a 'free' top 3 player. Isn't anyone at the club, including his father, smart enough to work out what to tell the kid to say in the media? Nice start to your career Jack, you've just cost us pick 3 with utter stupidity... and what kind of way is that to talk about the club anyway, who does he think he is? Now we can look forward to the player taken at pick 5 becoming another NicNat to our Watts. Idiots every single one of them.

Couldn't have said it better.

I just hope some major potential trades and politics come into the woodworks from other clubs to take the hype off this kid over the next 3 days. Not likely but you never know.

This type of article could be the difference as to whether or not he ll be owning our midfield with his buddy Wines for the next decade

NOT HELPFUL JACK

Too confident. Let's get a nice kid instead.

I cannot believe this, amateur hour again at the MFC! Obviously the correct response would be to say that he understands we have to go with the best pick available, and that hopefully he can one day make it to the MFC. That would cast some doubt into GWS/GC and maybe scare them out of screwing us over. He has gone and done the complete opposite, in effect gauranteeing the Suns will now nominate him and we lose what might have been a 'free' top 3 player. Isn't anyone at the club, including his father, smart enough to work out what to tell the kid to say in the media? Nice start to your career Jack, you've just cost us pick 3 with utter stupidity... and what kind of way is that to talk about the club anyway, who does he think he is? Now we can look forward to the player taken at pick 5 becoming another NicNat to our Watts. Idiots every single one of them.

you started the drinking early?.....this is an article in the Herald Sun, read it, laugh at it, move on........

I cannot believe this, amateur hour again at the MFC! Obviously the correct response would be to say that he understands we have to go with the best pick available, and that hopefully he can one day make it to the MFC. That would cast some doubt into GWS/GC and maybe scare them out of screwing us over. He has gone and done the complete opposite, in effect gauranteeing the Suns will now nominate him and we lose what might have been a 'free' top 3 player. Isn't anyone at the club, including his father, smart enough to work out what to tell the kid to say in the media? Nice start to your career Jack, you've just cost us pick 3 with utter stupidity... and what kind of way is that to talk about the club anyway, who does he think he is? Now we can look forward to the player taken at pick 5 becoming another NicNat to our Watts. Idiots every single one of them.

Spot on mate. He should have said the exact opposite. "It will always be my dream to play in the red and blue", "I'm incredibly close to my family so I'm going to really struggle if I have to move". Sew the same seeds of doubt Luke Ball did in the 09 draft.

To me it seems to say I want to play for Melbourne pick me .If you dont I will play to my maximum for a side that does

Hmm.

Would have thought dad would have worded him up. Then again maybe he did.

A friendly piece of advice to the lad.

You, nor anyone is bigger than the club.

Youre frustrated; understandable.

Wisest not to open your mouth at present.

There ARE others !!!

WTF is going on here?? Surely the club would have advised him on how to handle the media surrounding this issue!? His dad is in charge of recruiting for Christ's sake!

The club should be advising him to tell GWS and GC if they pick him he'll ask to come home not the other way around!

Someone has stuffed up here. If there was any doubt about GC putting in a bid to force our hand with pick 3 i think that has been extinguished now...

With his comments he has completely undone all the mind games we have played by saying we wouldn't take him with pick 3.

Dumb.

I love his passion but dumb.

Grrrrrrrr.

I get the impression the Dees have distanced themselves from him and that may be what has induced these type of comments.

perhaps after not hearing from the Dees or being interviewed by them at the combin (suprise suprise MFC) then he thought he needed to say something.

When the truth is maybe the Dees did this as a tactic to show opposition clubs that we are interested in other kids at pick #3 instead...